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I've got the general impression that there is dislike for Romelu Lukaku in the game. This was flagrantly reinforced by a recent piece of commentary on Skysports on Lukaku's skilful finish against Czech Republic, for Belgium. I would urge anyone interested to watch it on Youtube - the goal is at 1 min 48 seconds. Latching onto a De Bruyne straight pace, Lukaku ran with the ball and twisted a defender inside and out and finished past the keeper, who managed to get a block on it but not prevent it going in.

Rather than highlight the fantastic run and footwork by Lukaku, the commentator and co-commentator are apparently lost for words and then mainly praise the good, but almost 'regulation' pass, by De Bruyne, with the co-commentator even going as far as to claim that De Bruyne had put it "on a plate" for Lukaku.

More than just a myopic fascination with De Bruyne, I do believe that examples like this are based on a racial bias against recognition of the skill and creativity of black players. A study sponsored by the PFA and published last year showed that commentators are four more times likely to discuss black players in terms of strength and seven times more likely to be discussed in terms of speed. It would be unfair to just focus on commentators - Man Utd, of course, let him go and are now crying out for a striker.

Lukaku has complained of a bias against him that focuses on the physical - as if to reduce his ability to the good fortune of genetics rather than effort, ability and creativity: “It is never about my skill when I am compared to other strikers,” Lukaku said in an interview with The New York Times last year. “My one-on-one dribbling is good. I can do a step-over. I can beat a player. I remember one comment from a journalist that United should not sign Lukaku because he is not an ‘intelligent’ footballer.”

In 2011, there was a scandal in French football when it was reported that a cap had been proposed at youth levels to prevent too many black and Arab players taking positions. Integral to the accusations was head of the French football federations National Technical Board, Francois Blaquart, who said, on being appointed, of the need to  "prioritise intelligence in the game with respect to the technical and, above all, athletic aspect". Head coach, Laurent Blanc, is said to have supported the 30% cap from U14 level in order to support talent sharing sharing "our culture, our history".

I always noted, when Yaya Toure was at Manchester City, what a brilliantly skilful player he was, who could escape the tightest situation and pick out delicate passes. I found it noticeable that he never received the adulation from the football fraternity, most notably commentators, that David Silva received. Silva was regularly described as a magician and a wizard, from what I recall, and Toure was, to my mind, every bit a genius, though, playing a deeper role, often. In fact, I believe he was played at centre back by Barcelona, at times, which, if is the case, would be, again, another black player being judged by his physical attributes rather than his actual abilities.

I recall a Jamie Carragher comment, as a pundit, comparing, Tottenham's Ndombele, with Yaya Toure, when the Spurs player was in and out of the team. Carragher referenced that Ndombele has a big backside and doesn't work hard enough but was great on the ball. Whether that was true or false about Ndombele, it was a lazy comparison, based on stereotype, with one of the most gifted midfielders the Premier League has seen.

I do agree that Lukaku can look awkward on the ball at times and may not be the most technical footballer in the world, but the skill he demonstrates, including in that goal against Czech Republic, is undeniable. The commentary (or non-commentary) reveals, to my mind, a resentment against a player disproving a deeply-rooted stereotype.

As most of us know, when you base your self-esteem primarily on being better than certain others, being proven wrong is both inevitable and painful. Nonetheless, it shouldn't prevent one from giving due credit and needs to be dismantled through education and humility - and not be allowed to malign or impede the livelihoods of others. As much as it isn't right for Lukaku to be treated in such a manner, he has at least, reached success and, really, the concern is how it impacts players who have yet to break through.

 

 

 

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What this is about, is the big clubs taking total control of European football. They are taking the power from the bodies such as UEFA, the PL. Between them they are cementing their position of runnin

i actually hope it happens,it`ll be a clean slate,all the greed will be in one league and eventually they`ll all turn on each other for bigger slices of the money,chuck them out of their leagues and l

Why do people care so much? Over to the late Sir Bobby Robson... “What is a club in any case? Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it. It’s not the televisio

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He’s got a record of 1 in 2 at Club and international level in his entire career, baffles me why he gets slated tbh.

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12 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

He’s got a record of 1 in 2 at Club and international level in his entire career, baffles me why he gets slated tbh.

Poor man's Jason Roberts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Joke, Lukaka is an awesome striker, top 5 in the world atm I would suggest?

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17 hours ago, riverholmes said:

More than just a myopic fascination with De Bruyne, I do believe that examples like this are based on a racial bias against recognition of the skill and creativity of black players. A study sponsored by the PFA and published last year showed that commentators are four more times likely to discuss black players in terms of strength and seven times more likely to be discussed in terms of speed. It would be unfair to just focus on commentators - Man Utd, of course, let him go and are now crying out for a striker.

Ronaldinho didn’t have that problem. 
I heard Darren “ everyone is racist” Lewis go on about calling players beasts as being racist due to a lot of what you highlighted above. I would call akinfenwa a beast in the same way as Jon Parkin was a beast. As Defoe and Owen arnt . People always looking for a way to find offence is keeping racism alive.

morgan Freeman was asked how do we eradicate racism. His answer. Just stop going on about it.

(not a dig at you, very good post, just my thoughts)

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On 17/03/2021 at 20:27, Bigdoggsteel said:

Supporting Blackburn and having Ireland as an international team would do that to a man..I deserve a medal. 

Was Irish guy on radio today talking about your team's style of posession with no end product. Said you only had one decent chance midweek and that was blazed over the bar.

His frustrations with the manager sounded identical to Rovers.

Are you supporting 2 football teams with the exact same issues? 🤔

If so, you have my deepest sympathies. 

I can barely cope with 1 helping. 

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1 hour ago, Silas said:

Was Irish guy on radio today talking about your team's style of posession with no end product. Said you only had one decent chance midweek and that was blazed over the bar.

His frustrations with the manager sounded identical to Rovers.

Are you supporting 2 football teams with the exact same issues? 🤔

If so, you have my deepest sympathies. 

I can barely cope with 1 helping. 

Ya, I deserve a medal.

Ireland have literally no strikers at the moment. It's a huge issue. It's the worst crop of players in my lifetime in general anyway. The manager is out of his depth, but in fairness he is trying to get them to play possesion football, which I don't think we have ever tried. Our greatest manager was Jack Charlton and his long ball style is pretty much ingrained in our DNA. 

THey should just let Kenny bring young players through. We just have to suck it up because there is no light in sight. 

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Is it wise to try and play possession football with such a limited set of players? I always find it strange when a manager is praised for trying to play what is perceived to be attractive and/or progressive football in spite of the players strengths and weaknesses.

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18 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Ya, I deserve a medal.

Sounds like you do.

I see you have a needless, painful friendly against Qatar tonight, who are in decent form.

Good luck!

Since it's on Sky I might dip in and see if I can spot the similarities with Rovers. 

The guy on radio was: "Anyone can keep possession at the back, it goes sideways and backwards, but never goes anywhere. What's the point in that!"

Now where have I heard that before. 🤔

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Ireland have made 8 changes for the friendly tonight, pretty much everyone in the ‘worst crop of players’ in bigdogg’s lifetime have started a game this week... apart from Lenihan.

Which speaks volumes to the level Rovers are at these days too...

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11 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Ireland have made 8 changes for the friendly tonight, pretty much everyone in the ‘worst crop of players’ in bigdogg’s lifetime have started a game this week... apart from Lenihan.

Which speaks volumes to the level Rovers are at these days too...

Beat me to it. Pointless him going away with them - an absolute waste of everyone’s times - he never gets a single minute.

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1 hour ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Beat me to it. Pointless him going away with them - an absolute waste of everyone’s times - he never gets a single minute.

He’ll have flown -

Manchester - Dublin 

Dublin - Belgrade

Belgrade - Dublin

Dublin - Hungary

Hungary - Dublin

Dublin - Manchester 

... in a little over a week and 0 minutes in three matches. 

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8 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

He’ll have flown -

Manchester - Dublin 

Dublin - Belgrade

Belgrade - Dublin

Dublin - Hungary

Hungary - Dublin

Dublin - Manchester 

... in a little over a week and 0 minutes in three matches. 

Hasn’t he got a young child too? Seems the outspoken type so I’m sure he’ll let Kenny know his thoughts.

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Reports are out that a European super league could be happening; Man United, Liverpool among clubs in $6 billion European Super League talks - sources (espn.com)

Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Spurs are English teams to have purportedly signed on. 

It's been talked about for years. It's no surprise that of the 5 clubs 3 are owned by Americans, and that JP Morgan are backing it. 

I'm completely against it, but I have no money or power to do anything about it.

 

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I used to be against it, but now let the fuckers go... and throw them out of domestic football whilst we are at it and we can try and get some semblance of normality back to the game.

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1 hour ago, speeeeeeedie said:

Reports are out that a European super league could be happening; Man United, Liverpool among clubs in $6 billion European Super League talks - sources (espn.com)

Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Spurs are English teams to have purportedly signed on. 

It's been talked about for years. It's no surprise that of the 5 clubs 3 are owned by Americans, and that JP Morgan are backing it. 

I'm completely against it, but I have no money or power to do anything about it.

 

But PSG and Bayern Munich are against it. 

Gary Neville on the commentary of the Manchester United game with the dingles, Roy Keane and Micah Richards in the Sky Sports Studio are scathing of the top 6 English clubs for signing up to this European Super League and say each club should have points deduct of them. 

Also statement from UEFA and others FA's plus PL and La Liga said clubs will be kick out of their own domestic leagues plus banned on players appearing in world cups and Euros also will happen

The Football Supporters association comment below

 

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1 hour ago, speeeeeeedie said:

Reports are out that a European super league could be happening; Man United, Liverpool among clubs in $6 billion European Super League talks - sources (espn.com)

Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Spurs are English teams to have purportedly signed on. 

 

Spurs? Haha. The equivalent of a snooker player down the club who gets 20+ breaks now and then thinking he can mix it with Ronnie O'Sullivan, Neil Robertson and the like.

As for the proposed idea, let the greedy gets clear off. Watch them squirm when the novelty wears off and they are desperate for a return to domestic football. There should be no way back for any of them who sign up for this league.

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Agree that they are greedy, selfish b'stards but would the English game have the same pull to attracted £££ without the top six? Money talks and if this goes ahead it would devalue the game as we have it now.

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This will have an adverse affect on the English national team.  Alot of players will be lost. Same with Spain Italy etc.

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