[Archived] B*rnley v Rovers

[Ben-2000]

http://www.rovers.co.uk/news/article/burnley-match-on-tv-895861.aspx

It makes you wonder how much of an effect this will have on the attendance.

Bearing in mind last year we only just sold out and they had a handful of seats unsold.

[EgyptianPete]

http://www.rovers.co.uk/news/article/burnley-match-on-tv-895861.aspx

It makes you wonder how much of an effect this will have on the attendance.

Bearing in mind last year we only just sold out and they had a handful of seats unsold.

Different manager, different team, club looking to be now moving forward fans with optimism for a change, i reckon we will sell out.

[Ewood Spark]

This is terrible news .... I'm at my brothers wedding on the Friday day/night up in Helmsley.... I was counting on the game moving to the Sunday ... not sure how I am going to square this circle.

[Glenn]

I think some of it will be down to the transport arrangements again. They may have avoided the concourse overcrowding this time, but if I can't either drive or organise our own "luxury" BRFCS coach then I'll not be happy. Stuck for hours on a 1950s double decker full that stank of wee and was full of chavs giving grief (which they don't doubt dismissed as "banter") to an elderly (and utterly unimpressed) steward is not how ever want to spend my weekends.

[pk1875]

I think some of it will be down to the transport arrangements again. They may have avoided the concourse overcrowding this time, but if I can't either drive or organise our own "luxury" BRFCS coach then I'll not be happy. Stuck for hours on a 1950s double decker full that stank of wee and was full of chavs giving grief (which they don't doubt dismissed as "banter") to an elderly (and utterly unimpressed) steward is not how ever want to spend my weekends.

You could allways travel on the BRFC Action Group Luxury coach.

[Paul]

If we are to be treated as a potential hooligans, again, I won't be going.

[arbitro]

If we are to be treated as a potential hooligans, again, I won't be going.

I don't feel that I have been treated as a potential hooligan at all (in the same way I don't see myself treated as a potential terrorist when flying). I see it as the safest way of getting to and from a really high risk football match. Given the choice I would still travel this way rather than risking my and my families safety by potentially exposing ourselves to the Burnley idiots.

[tomphil]

There is always the option of official coach travel even when it's not compulsory.

[McClarky]

Really hope we can go on the train to avoid having to come down on Friday night.

[only2garners]

I think some of it will be down to the transport arrangements again. They may have avoided the concourse overcrowding this time, but if I can't either drive or organise our own "luxury" BRFCS coach then I'll not be happy. Stuck for hours on a 1950s double decker full that stank of wee and was full of chavs giving grief (which they don't doubt dismissed as "banter") to an elderly (and utterly unimpressed) steward is not how ever want to spend my weekends.

Having been to most of the prep meetings for last year's games I think there will be little or no chance of there being any movement on the need to travel on organised coaches this season.

What did happen with the game at Ewood was that coaches organised by Burnley fans living a distance away were allowed to join the convoy from Preston. If there were fans living a distance away from Blackburn that wanted to organise their own coaches I would expect that the police would accommodate you. For the game at Turf Moor both the Action Group and Ewood Blues organised their own coaches although they both started from Ewood anyway. It just needs someone to organise a bus from say Accrington (or Leeds Glenn!) or wherever and I would expect that the police would accommodate them.

[Baz]

12:15 ko probably means coaches leaving at 9:30-10am

Last season i was in corporate hospitality, so got to the ground after most rovers fans, and had plenty of time for a meal too. After the game it seemed to take ages before the coaches left, but walking away from the ground it was like a war zone, whole roads blocked off by 20ft high steel walls, loads of police speeding around, loads in full riot gear...total overkill as there was no one about. Do i think theres idiots on both sides who if they got chance would fight? Absolutely. Should the majority incur the results of this potential? No.

It reminded me of getting off the train in Feyenoord, to see maybe 500 dutch riot police in formation (front row kneeled down shields out, second row stood sticks in hand,with 3rd and 4th behind, whilst 100's of rovers fans were taking photos of them. The police involved actually looked embarassed.

[Paul]

If we are to be treated as a potential hooligans, again, I won't be going.

I don't feel that I have been treated as a potential hooligan at all (in the same way I don't see myself treated as a potential terrorist when flying). I see it as the safest way of getting to and from a really high risk football match. Given the choice I would still travel this way rather than risking my and my families safety by potentially exposing ourselves to the Burnley idiots.

Interesting comparison, I hadn't thought of it in those terms and take your point.

[Ozz]

It reminded me of getting off the train in Feyenoord, to see maybe 500 dutch riot police in formation (front row kneeled down shields out, second row stood sticks in hand,with 3rd and 4th behind, whilst 100's of rovers fans were taking photos of them. The police involved actually looked embarassed.

I got the coach from town (Old Harbour) to the ground, and we had around 50 yards to literally run from the coach to the turnstile, along a protecting wall. There was a constant hail of bottles and stones flying over the wall landing all around us, and was sheer luck I didn`t get hit.

I said to the guy on the gate "That`s a nice warm welcome!"

He said "Just be thankful you`re not German. They f****** HATE the Germans!"

[arbitro]

I have a pal who lives 400 yards from Turf Moor, a lifelong Claret

I could drive over, park at his house on the drive, have a brew & a sandwich, walk to the game with him and walk back after for another brew and let the traffic disperse before driving home

I'm quite capable of walking to the ground in his company as I have done on numerous past occasions then walking back to his house after and as I never wear anything to distinguish myself as a Rovers fan don't really see it as a "high risk football match"

I'm a rather ordinary looking middle aged bloke who's managed to attend football games since 1967 all over the world without getting in any bother.

But I won't be forced to sit on a bus from a point inconvenient to me -I live in Penwortham & in no other circumstances would I break up a journey to Burnley come off the M65 and travel the last 10 miles in a coach at someone else's behest - and spend hours being herded about

If "safety concerns" don't over-ride TV money then I don't see how anything else the police visit upon this fixture can be taken credibly

The man who was attacked probably didn't think it was a high risk match.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/archive/2001/01/23/6048404.Family_man__behaved_like_a_yob_/

[tomphil]

The man who was attacked probably didn't think it was a high risk match.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/archive/2001/01/23/6048404.Family_man__behaved_like_a_yob_/

Appears to be a one off incident, obviously don't know the in and out of it but you have to ask how did this one guy get outed as a Rovers fan if he had no colours on and what made someone of seemingly good character flip and lay into him ? experience tells me that there probably was more to this. That could, does and has happened at any game anywhere sadly. The worst repeated violence and bad behaviour in the last 20 odd years involving Rovers around Ewood, in the town and across the borough has as been mentioned involved 'fans' of Man Utd. What restrictions have ever been placed on that lot ? None because they are largely policed by GMP who know that if they try and treat them all like hoolies then they will seriously behave that way. it's because the vast majority of Rovers and Burnley supporters are so passive that the plod can get away will running the show and get well paid for it. A guy in my local and his brother are police officers in East Lancs and last season the brother was on duty for both games, his words "it's a doddle". both are Rovers fans and both say it's way over the top for both sets of fans. With the sheer amount of officers on duty to escort the coaches etc the manpower would probably still be less if people could travel under their own steam and the train stations, town centres etc were very well policed. It's nothing more than a paid for training excecise for Lancs Police.

[Butty]

Appears to be a one off incident, obviously don't know the in and out of it but you have to ask how did this one guy get outed as a Rovers fan if he had no colours on and what made someone of seemingly good character flip and lay into him ? experience tells me that there probably was more to this. That could, does and has happened at any game anywhere sadly. The worst repeated violence and bad behaviour in the last 20 odd years involving Rovers around Ewood, in the town and across the borough has as been mentioned involved 'fans' of Man Utd. What restrictions have ever been placed on that lot ? None because they are largely policed by GMP who know that if they try and treat them all like hoolies then they will seriously behave that way. it's because the vast majority of Rovers and Burnley supporters are so passive that the plod can get away will running the show and get well paid for it. A guy in my local and his brother are police officers in East Lancs and last season the brother was on duty for both games, his words "it's a doddle". both are Rovers fans and both say it's way over the top for both sets of fans. With the sheer amount of officers on duty to escort the coaches etc the manpower would probably still be less if people could travel under their own steam and the train stations, town centres etc were very well policed. It's nothing more than a paid for training excecise for Lancs Police.

Have to agree with the fact that United fans have been bad. I remember walking up past where them new flats have been built for about two, three years? There was a minibus full of disabled children and some united fans started rocking it which I think is worse than generally running round being violent which they also have done in the past. I just hate United and there supporters too be honest

[tomphil]

Have to agree with the fact that United fans have been bad. I remember walking up past where them new flats have been built for about two, three years? There was a minibus full of disabled children and some united fans started rocking it which I think is worse than generally running round being violent which they also have done in the past. I just hate United and there supporters too be honest

Came across an old LT newspaper the other day from after we played them when we won 2-0 and Shearer scored both. The Jack Walker stand hand't been built and was just an open building sight, Utd only had a few thousand in the Darwen end that day but the trouble was unreal right across the borough the paper was full of it, headlines and inside. Both sets of fans involved. I'd lay a bet that day was worse than anything involving Rovers and any other team at Ewood and around town although i missed the 70's Burnley games. What happened after that Utd match as regards restrictions, nowt apart from having to be on the database.

[Butty]

Came across an old LT newspaper the other day from after we played them when we won 2-0 and Shearer scored both. The Jack Walker stand hand't been built and was just an open building sight, Utd only had a few thousand in the Darwen end that day but the trouble was unreal right across the borough the paper was full of it, headlines and inside. Both sets of fans involved. I'd lay a bet that day was worse than anything involving Rovers and any other team at Ewood and around town although i missed the 70's Burnley games. What happened after that Utd match as regards restrictions, nowt apart from having to be on the database.

Even with having to be on the database there are always united fans in the home ends everytime we play them at Ewood but I presume that is something that happens wherever United play. Does anyone else remember a game with Bolton around 2004 when a small amount of their fans ran through on the walkway of the riverside during the game? One was running with a big flag and things got a bit messy as some rovers fans didnt take to kindly to it!

[Ben-2000]

Yes and they got a right pasting!

I will never understand what possessed them to do that!

[NH1875]

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/in-pictures-burnley-fans-trashed-blackburns-toilets-after-drawing-1-1-at-ewood-park/

Things like this were music to the ears of Lancashire police, there will be no let up in the level of overpolicing IMO.

Edit: Not that I am condoning this sort of neanderthal behaviour from either set of fans...

[sparky12]

for those in Australia, this match will be shown live on Setanta

[Tom]

Even with having to be on the database there are always united fans in the home ends everytime we play them at Ewood but I presume that is something that happens wherever United play. Does anyone else remember a game with Bolton around 2004 when a small amount of their fans ran through on the walkway of the riverside during the game? One was running with a big flag and things got a bit messy as some rovers fans didnt take to kindly to it!

That was the Diouf dive game wasn't it

Also Big Sam also blamed the referee for nearly starting a riot about another decision

[J*B]

It'll be live on Sky in the UK.