Moderation Lead K-Hod 9931 Posted December 18, 2019 Moderation Lead Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Vinjay said: Certain people on here were unhappy about being wrong on public Brexit vote and how a referendum would have a different outcome. They were unhappy about Corbyn's thrashing. They can prepare to be disappointed about this as well. Not the impeachment vote but the ultimate outcome. Whilst I do think Philip’s monologue in here is always a good read, he’s only the third president in history to be impeached. That’s pretty unusual, whatever way you look at it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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DE. 12347 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just now, Mike E said: He'll be impeached, but that's ultimately meaningless because he'll not be talked into stepping down. Even if he DID, we end up with a religious fundamentalist (Pence) as the most powerful politician in the world. It'd be like Abu Hamza running Saudi Arabia or something. Yep, out of the frying pan and into the fire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philipl 7032 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultrablue 291 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Is it Happy Impeachment or Merry Impeachment? I don't want to offend anyone ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
old darwen blue 1580 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Wheres Phil, I would have put money on him posting on here as soon as the first vote result was out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
perthblue02 5142 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 So now it moves on to trying to persuade 27 Republicans to join the 40 Democrats who want Mike Pence as President. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderation Lead K-Hod 9931 Posted December 19, 2019 Moderation Lead Share Posted December 19, 2019 5 hours ago, old darwen blue said: Wheres Phil, I would have put money on him posting on here as soon as the first vote result was out? Probably sleeping, I’d guess, looking at the time of the post... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
donnermeat 838 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 15/12/2019 at 01:21, Mike E said: You thought the UK media has been bad? In the US they're calling Bernie Sanders, a Jewish man whose paternal family was wiped out in the Holocaust, an antisemite... Much like Cyril Chilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
speeeeeeedie 890 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 8 hours ago, OnePhilT said: I think this will backfire on the Democrats big time. It's unlikely that the Senate will find him guilty, and Trump will absolutely rip them to shreds over it. Four more years. I completely missed the tide on Trump in 2016. What hasn't changed since then is his support. He hasn't been able to expand his reach beyond his core voters and they don't care what he does. Nobody really knows what will happen until his opponent is fixed. There are too many Democrats running to ascertain a consensus. How many voters who stayed away last time will vote Democrat this time? Republicans were hammered in the mid terms, but Trumps name on the ballot will bring people out. You are right that the Senate won't touch him unless more nefarious deeds come to light. I'm no expert but there is probably a lot more out there. The news this morning is touching on the House delaying sending the impeachment articles to the Senate. Whatever happens Trump's legacy will be impeachment. it will always be mentioned when talking about him. He doesn't like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vinjay 444 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 9 hours ago, OnePhilT said: I think this will backfire on the Democrats big time. It's unlikely that the Senate will find him guilty, and Trump will absolutely rip them to shreds over it. Four more years. Exactly though it wouldn't surprise me if Trump is killed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jim mk2 9013 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 10 hours ago, OnePhilT said: I think this will backfire on the Democrats big time. It's unlikely that the Senate will find him guilty, and Trump will absolutely rip them to shreds over it. Four more years. That's the big risk. Many Democrats are also uneasy about impeachment - knowing that when it is rejected by the Senate it will harden his support and attract the sympathy of wavering voters. Trump's doesn't like anyone getting one over him - his revenge on those who have crossed him will be severe. Pelosi had better be ready. Funny that he calls the Democrats the radical left - he needs a pep talk from Jeremy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
old darwen blue 1580 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 9 hours ago, K-Hod said: Probably sleeping, I’d guess, looking at the time of the post... Thought he’d be all over it as evidenced by his enthusiastic shall we say posting in this thread? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderation Lead K-Hod 9931 Posted December 19, 2019 Moderation Lead Share Posted December 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, old darwen blue said: Thought he’d be all over it as evidenced by his enthusiastic shall we say posting in this thread? Oh aye, was only being jovial! I do think as Phil T alluded to though, this impeachment biz will backfire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jodrell 328 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 What one person said tonight is if they can get some of the witnesses to testify he could resign. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vinjay 444 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 12 hours ago, jodrell said: What one person said tonight is if they can get some of the witnesses to testify he could resign. That would probably be the unlikeliest outcome of all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jodrell 328 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Vinjay said: That would probably be the unlikeliest outcome of all. Why? if one of them gives some incriminating evidence and puts Trump under the Bus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vinjay 444 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, jodrell said: Why? if one of them gives some incriminating evidence and puts Trump under the Bus. Because I can't see him willingly resigning unless it's a serious health issue such as a terminal illness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike E 6516 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 On 20/12/2019 at 13:20, Vinjay said: Because I can't see him willingly resigning unless it's a serious health issue such as a terminal illness. I can't even see that. If he had his way, power would only pried from his cold, dead hands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jodrell 328 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 20/12/2019 at 13:20, Vinjay said: Because I can't see him willingly resigning unless it's a serious health issue such as a terminal illness. https://www.inquisitr.com/5805238/donald-trump-resign-witness-testimony-impeachment-anthony-scaramucci/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norbert Rassragr 1509 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 One thing is for sure, Donald's Twitter account will explode if the Republican senators find some backbone and morals, and throw him under the bus. It's an unlikely case, seeing as it is the party that backs paedophiles and real life Illinois Nazis in some recent elections. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philipl 7032 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Factually, Pelosi is withholding the articles of impeachment until McConnell actually schedules a trial as required by the Constitution. Trump has committed seven impeachable offenses but there are just two approved so far. So if McConnell holds a sham trial the Dems will simply impeach Trump again. Criminal and other cases are proceeding regardless and with vigour. There are many many weeks between now and the Presidential election for - Trump's taxes to be exposed - Trump's multiple frauds to leak - people under arrest facing trial or yet to be arrested to plea bargain - the Cohen canary's song to be fully revealed - Trump's sexual crimes to be exposed - Trump's emoluments crimes to piss off key supporters - Giuliano, Parnas etc to blow up rather than be a smoking fuse - Trump to commit a bunch of more crimes like he found a way to.criminally mess up in Ukraine last year in addition to all the other boiling shit he is in - the inevitable unexpected events which drag down incumbents Two things to watch is that for the criminal underworld, they calculate personal advantage moment by moment coldly. They could calculate Trump is disposable if his crimes and demented response become too much of a liability and threat to them. Secondly Putin cannot beat the west so uses subterfuge to sow disruption in all camps. So he plays inside Republicans and Democrats, owns Johnson and Corbyn etc. It is clear from Russian media that the two memes on Trump are 1) we own him.and 2) laughing at him. Typical Russian tactics would be to support Trump to close to his re-election then plunge the States into total chaos by leaking the choicest Kompromat they hold over him.. Edited December 23, 2019 by philipl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philipl 7032 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Sums up Trump and his danger to all of us. https://thebulwark.com/trumps-personal-pathology-is-americas-foreign-policy/?amp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OldEwoodBlue 1812 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderation Lead K-Hod 9931 Posted December 26, 2019 Moderation Lead Share Posted December 26, 2019 Interesting that you’d pick a tune by a bloke that has criticised Donald Trump repeatedly in a thread about that guy, but you do you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
broadsword 3581 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 On 22/12/2019 at 12:30, Norbert Rassragr said: Illinois Nazis in some recent elections. I hate Illinois nazis! ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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