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Simply put, without the NHS: I'd never have been born (I'm an IVF baby). I'd have died in the womb (as did the triplets I was supposed to be part of). I'd have died at some point immedi

And I’m going to have a Spanish beer from a Belgian glass, wearing an Italian band t-shirt ordered from a German website, and listening to some Bulgarian europop. You and the rest can stick Brexi

The Tories didn't drag us out of the EU to strengthen workers rights for gods sake - What planet are you on ?

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6 hours ago, Silas said:

Indeed..... so it does start......if you meant fake news that immediately sends the left into mouth frothing delirium. (Not you btw, the twitter clan, who exploded over this, and look a tad foolish now.)

 

I mean the clues were all there if they took a minute to have a think. All deals between ourselves and the EU remain intact till the end of the year at least. 

I'm afraid "triggered" doesn't even begin to cover it in this instance. 

I think maybe everyone should pause, wait a beat, and take a deep breath in future before jumping on the "Look what Brexit's caused!" bandwagon. 

My tip is, very little will be caused for at least 10.5 months. 

So maybe we can all have a little break. 

Game of noughts and crosses anyone?!

So that Twitter bubble Nandy spoke about is true then. 
 

Who would have thought it, the left use “fake news” just as much as the right.

Is there actually a sensible centrist party in the UK right now are we destined to always choose between the lesser of two evils? 

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We live in a world of extremes now unfortunately, so a centrist party would likely struggle to gain any foothold. It's a shame because most people are really not extremists on either side, but are blinded by the hate and fear spewed across social media and the press - mostly orchestrated by deviously programmed AI designed to manipulate emotions and thought processes. As a result we have generally rational people at each other's throats, voting for parties and policies purely out of spite and bitterness rather than compassion or any real understanding of what is going on.

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23 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Meanwhile in the Labour party leadership contest the candidates are rowing over whether individuals who are biologically men should be allowed to use women's changing rooms - I hear they speak of little else in Workington and Bishop Auckland.

The litany of misery that you and other posters set out bears no relation to the lives of the overwhelming majority of people in our great country.

I fully support everyone having equal rights, opportunities etc. and don't pretend to know the answer to the issue mentioned.

I was disappointed to see the amount of time the four candidates spent on transgender issues in a recent TV debate. It is entirely right they have concern and will work to ensure equality BUT it is far from the most important issue yet of course receives a disproportionate amount of media coverage.

Can I suggest you read Labour policy and understand what the candidates wish to do for the country. You might then understand why Labour is a far better alternative than the Dominic Cummings Party.

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Just now, Paul said:

I fully support everyone having equal rights, opportunities etc. and don't pretend to know the answer to the issue mentioned.

I was disappointed to see the amount of time the four candidates spent on transgender issues in a recent TV debate. It is entirely right they have concern and will work to ensure equality BUT it is far from the most important issue yet of course receives a disproportionate amount of media coverage.

Can I suggest you read Labour policy and understand what the candidates wish to do for the country. You might then understand why Labour is a far better alternative than the Dominic Cummings Party.

I took a close interest in Labour party policy in the general election campaign and rapidly came to the conclusion that there were a number of other parties who offered a better alternative.

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Northern Powerhouse minister "resigns", ie sacked, his job abolished

 https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/northwest/news/2055389-northern-powerhouse-minister-quits

..... to be taken over by a southern minister, the wonderful Grant Shapps.

So much for "levelling up", and the importance of boosting the north

Johnson lied....again

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2 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

I took a close interest in Labour party policy in the general election campaign and rapidly came to the conclusion that there were a number of other parties who offered a better alternative.

Was the far right, lieing bunch of yes men representing the Tory party one of them?

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9 minutes ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

EU bending over backwards for the closest of close relationship. Was always going to be thus.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51549662

Did you read the same article I did? Quite a few references to very tight rules and expectations of us in any deal.

I agree, they absolutely WANT a deal, but it will be closer to their terms than ours imo.

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The direction of the deal will be chosen by the UK.

The detail and balance of benefit will be set by the EU.

Because the EU hold all the cards and Johnson is a lazy bugger who doesn't do detail.

 

Ps the reason I edited is because I typed lady instead of lazy. The first version is allegedly true also..

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4 hours ago, philipl said:

The direction of the deal will be chosen by the UK.

The detail and balance of benefit will be set by the EU.

Because the EU hold all the cards and Johnson is a lazy bugger who doesn't do detail.

 

Ps the reason I edited is because I typed lady instead of lazy. The first version is allegedly true also..

I was once typing an article and I wanted to use the word " Hanker " in regards to the Tories hankering for a bygone era. The little man who lives inside my lap top changed the word to " Banker ". When I tried again he changed it to " Wanker ". He must be a clever little man.

Pritti Patel's latest plans regarding immigrant workers has gone down really well with the employers. The care industry in particular is already up in arms because they realise their workforce will more or less vanish. There is already speculation regarding care homes closing. Patel reckons there are millions of Brits not fully employed out there just dying to wipe a few backsides. Maybe she should try it. 

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4 hours ago, philipl said:

The direction of the deal will be chosen by the UK.

The detail and balance of benefit will be set by the EU.

Because the EU hold all the cards and Johnson is a lazy bugger who doesn't do detail.

 

Ps the reason I edited is because I typed lady instead of lazy. The first version is allegedly true also..

 It's heading only one way Philip..... a hard Brexit with no deal, a low-tax Britain with lax rules and regulations and few public services.. This has been the Tory right wing's dream for 40 years, they cannot believe their luck and they're not going to miss their chance now

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This government have turned the U.K. into something that should be so loathsome, to most decent people. We have become a country tolerant of no one who isn’t white and who wasn’t born here. If there’s an opportunity to deport them then it’s seized whether they recognise the country they’re being sent to or not. White nationalism is what the government is about. It’s disgraceful. Immigration and immigrants are the devil and the cause of most of our problems. Get rid of them and the future is bright. That’s the message. 
 

This policy has a lot of support mainly from brexiteers. They’re not racist though.

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11 minutes ago, den said:

This government have turned the U.K. into something that should be so loathsome, to most decent people. We have become a country tolerant of no one who isn’t white and who wasn’t born here. If there’s an opportunity to deport them then it’s seized whether they recognise the country they’re being sent to or not. White nationalism is what the government is about. It’s disgraceful. Immigration and immigrants are the devil and the cause of most of our problems. Get rid of them and the future is bright. That’s the message. 
 

This policy has a lot of support mainly from brexiteers. They’re not racist though.

The Home Secretary is from East Africa descent is she not? Our chancellor is not a “white nationalist”. It’s a multi cultural government, no? 
 

Many of the firms who are criticising this are also the ones who exploit foreign workers for cheap labour. Maybe if they hadn’t drove wages down so low they wouldn’t now be in this position now. Industry has just as much responsibility as the government in all of this. 
 

A high wage, low tax, low unemployment society is of benefit to all, where each pays their way. A friend of mine worked in Australia for a year in a call centre and was paid more than enough to be able to afford rent in a really nice apartment and still have disposable income to eat out, socialise and live a lifestyle we here would consider “middle class”. Our wages are terrible here and something has to be done to drive them up. I’m not saying this is the answer but by outlawing firms the right to access cheap unfettered labour it is a small step in the right direction.

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17 minutes ago, den said:

This government have turned the U.K. into something that should be so loathsome, to most decent people. We have become a country tolerant of no one who isn’t white and who wasn’t born here. If there’s an opportunity to deport them then it’s seized whether they recognise the country they’re being sent to or not. White nationalism is what the government is about. It’s disgraceful. Immigration and immigrants are the devil and the cause of most of our problems. Get rid of them and the future is bright. That’s the message. 
 

This policy has a lot of support mainly from brexiteers. They’re not racist though.

The government with Asians as Chancellor of the Exchequer and Home Secretary ? What complete nonsense !

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1 hour ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

The government with Asians as Chancellor of the Exchequer and Home Secretary ? What complete nonsense !

They're the ones who want to pull the drawbridge up now they're safely part of the establishment. Or the think they are. The reality is that behind their backs a significant section of the Tory party can't stand them.  As an old naval colleague of mine used to say " Fuck you Jack, I'm inboard ". Priiti Patel has just been on the radio telling me that 8 million of us aren't working hard enough so we can do a bit of arse wiping in our spare time. They're heading us down the " everybody needs two jobs to survive " economic path. 

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1 hour ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

The Home Secretary is from East Africa descent is she not? Our chancellor is not a “white nationalist”. It’s a multi cultural government, no? 
 

Many of the firms who are criticising this are also the ones who exploit foreign workers for cheap labour. Maybe if they hadn’t drove wages down so low they wouldn’t now be in this position now. Industry has just as much responsibility as the government in all of this. 
 

A high wage, low tax, low unemployment society is of benefit to all, where each pays their way. A friend of mine worked in Australia for a year in a call centre and was paid more than enough to be able to afford rent in a really nice apartment and still have disposable income to eat out, socialise and live a lifestyle we here would consider “middle class”. Our wages are terrible here and something has to be done to drive them up. I’m not saying this is the answer but by outlawing firms the right to access cheap unfettered labour it is a small step in the right direction.

The flaw in that argument is that the very people responsible for the exploitation of foreign workers and who pay low wages are the very same people than contribute massively to the Tory party fighting funds come election time. Read " Private Eye " that'll tell you all about the care home owners, private rentiers etc and their contributions to Tory party funds. 

Patel can say what she likes but the Tory party won't bite the hand that feeds them.

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Must say it smacked of a total lack of self awareness when Pritti Patel literally admitted that her parents wouldn’t be admitted into the UK under the current immigration plans. 
Outstanding.

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We already have high wages in the UK for the privileged 1 per cent.  The idea that because there will be curbs on foreign workers high wages are going to be handed over to people in low-skilled jobs is laughable. What leverage do these workers have?  We used to have trade unions who battled for better conditions on behalf of workers but they have been neutered or banned in many sectors and companies. Workers are powerless, especially those on zero-hours contracts. 

It will be funny watching all those who voted Brexit to stop the low-skilled "coming over here and taking our jobs" queueing up for agricultural work on minimum wage or less. Patel's  8 million "economically inactive" ie, the sick,  the dying and the old, will love carrying turnips and spuds.  

 

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