philipl 7017 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Fishing really working. Peterhead fish market prices down 80%. Enjoy lots of lovely fresh fish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Silas 1597 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Dutch officials seize ham sandwiches from British drivers | Politics | The Guardian Breadxit My word that customs guy is so chuffed with himself: Maybe they're just on the lookout for this guy: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
den 6925 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Taking back control of our waters isn’t proving great. In fact it’s proving to be a disaster. “It’s like a motorway crash’: Urgent meeting sought to resolve Brexit mess which has left fishing industry suffering huge losses” ....................... “Concerns have also been raised as the delays mean that hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of fish are being destroyed and ending up in landfill.” “The new red tape also means that every box of fresh seafood and salmon has to be offloaded from lorries and inspected by vets before they leave Scotland – which can take up to five hours.“ “David Leiper, the director of Peterhead-based exporters Seafood Ecosse, told the Sunday Post one of his biggest worries was letting down regular customers on the continent who he has traded with for many years. He said: “Last week I cancelled orders to Europe that would have been worth about £300,000 because I couldn’t guarantee when they would get there.” “These deliveries were to people we have had a good relationship with for decades and now it has come to this.” “If the situation worsens it will have a catastrophic effect on our prices.” https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/north-east/2801383/its-like-a-motorway-crash-urgent-meeting-sought-to-resolve-brexit-mess-which-has-left-fishing-industry-suffering-huge-losses/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
47er 8657 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 There was a feature on Radio 4's Today programme (Monday) about the plight of British people who've settled in Spain or had 2nd homes in Spain. One family had a son born in Uk and another in Spain. They think now that they are forced to stay in Spain because the Spanish-born son would be subject to UK's news immigration system and the points system which he couldn't meet. I was half listening but anyone interested could listen on demand. It finished about 7-30am as I recall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
47er 8657 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 09/01/2021 at 20:00, Gav said: What is so 'whataboutery' in regards to the Guardian, Telegraph and Independent pieces about Stella Creasy being discriminated against? Its got nothing to do with Brexit and this is the Brexit thread? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
47er 8657 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 11/01/2021 at 00:23, Jimbo said: And here's one for Gav - Maintaining standards through Brexit - Not a chance! It's a race to the bottom So much for solemn promises given many times. Just as we feared. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gav 8850 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 25 minutes ago, 47er said: Its got nothing to do with Brexit and this is the Brexit thread? Workers right have everything to do with Brexit, you’ve been telling us as much for months now. Some want this story buried, you’ll be on the naughty step now 47er 😃 Edited January 11 by Gav Quote Link to post Share on other sites
47er 8657 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Gav said: Workers right have everything to do with Brexit, you’ve been telling us as much for months now. Some want this story buried, you’ll be on the naughty step now 47er 😃 Stella Creasy's situation is relevant to a Brexit thread? Give over!! Its relevant only to your mission to prove that the Labour party is as bad as the Tories on workers rights which is an absurdity. I don't want this buried but I'm not so obsessed with it as to bring it up on any thread, at any opportunity for my own reasons. I suppose that, if we want to improve workers' rights (and Stella's) we should all vote Tory then! I doubt Stella would thank you for that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaddyrovers 5766 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Nissan “satisfied” with Brexit deal outcome, says UK boss Sunderland will continue producing cars in lockdown; UK MD calls reports of European retrenchment “baseless and inaccurate” https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/nissan-“satisfied”-brexit-deal-outcome-says-uk-boss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philipl 7017 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Brexit kills the Falkland Islands https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/11/falkland-islands-back-in-spotlight-after-exclusion-from-brexit-deal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philipl 7017 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/11/brexit-uk-should-aim-to-be-a-global-broker-not-a-great-power-says-report UK not to be a power- only a broker between powers. Also worth pointing out that the areas where Britain leads have been disproportionately disadvantaged by Brexit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone Shoelaces 11478 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 When we fly out to Spain we usually take a few M&S sandwiches on the plane to tide us over until we can get to the supermarket in the village. Sometimes they are closed when we arrive etc. Given that the Dutch border control people were taking sandwiches off British drivers at the Dutch border yesterday it looks like we might have to go hungry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gumboots 4352 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 You can take dry bread! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone Shoelaces 11478 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 45 minutes ago, gumboots said: You can take dry bread! Yes and of course we could buy sandwiches at the airport when we land I suppose but it's just another pointless aggravation. The last time we were out there about 18 months ago I got through passport control right away but my wife was a couple of people behind me. So I waited for her just behind the kiosk. Whilst I was waiting the Guardia came out of the kiosk and asked for my passport again. He went back on the computer for a few minutes, then he came out a gave me the passport back. Just as my wife came through he came out again and asked for my passport once more. He then took us both over to his sergeant. We got the third degree about our trip - where did we live in Spain, what was our address, what was the purpose of our trip, what other airports had we flown into in Spain previously, had we ever been to Murcia ? etc . It turns out that a well known " desperado " has the same name as me. I was expecting more of the same on the way back to the UK. My wife went first and was through straight away. The guy gave my passport a real once over and typed quite a bit into the computer, then let me go without a word. I did notice that they were building special facilities for Brits at passport control back then, expect long queues next time. Edited January 12 by Tyrone Shoelaces Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gav 8850 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 13 hours ago, 47er said: Stella Creasy's situation is relevant to a Brexit thread? Give over!! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/27/brexit-deal-threatens-uk-labour-climate-standards-thinktank-warns https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-uk-workers-rights-unions-etuc-b1767518.html Stella Creasy has been discriminated against for being a working mother and female 47er, by the Labour movement, the very movement that claims to fight for equality. This shouldn't be allowed to happen in any setting, I want us to stamp our discrimination against women and in all settings, I want us to come down heavily on the perpetrators, we need much stiffer penalties for workplace discrimination and discrimination of any kind. We are no longer tied to most EU rules and regulations after brexit, we should tighten up in this area. Do you agree? Edited January 12 by Gav Quote Link to post Share on other sites
den 6925 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 @Tyrone Shoelaces There’s a desperado Called Tyrone Shoelaces? Wow, I would never have believed that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone Shoelaces 11478 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Gav said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/27/brexit-deal-threatens-uk-labour-climate-standards-thinktank-warns https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-uk-workers-rights-unions-etuc-b1767518.html Stella Creasy has been discriminated against for being a working mother and female 47er, by the Labour movement, the very movement that claims to fight for equality. This shouldn't be allowed to happen in any setting, I want us to stamp our discrimination against women and in all settings, I want us to come down heavily on the perpetrators, we need much stiffer penalties for workplace discrimination and discrimination of any kind. We are no longer tied to most EU rules and regulations after brexit, we should tighten up in this area. Do you agree? How were EU rules and regulations preventing us from tightening up in this area ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoverDom 1581 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Gav said: We are no longer tied to most EU rules and regulations after brexit, we should tighten up in this area. EU rules on employee rights were a minimum we have always had the ability to go above and beyond these rules but not below. We could have done this 5 years ago. You wont find me disagreeing that the discrimination is wrong but you cant shoehorn it into a brexit issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
den 6925 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, RoverDom said: EU rules on employee rights were a minimum we have always had the ability to go above and beyond these rules but not below. We could have done this 5 years ago. You wont find me disagreeing that the discrimination is wrong but you cant shoehorn it into a brexit issue. Gav has been told this a number of times. Continuing on this avoids him having to comment on the dire fishing situation that seemingly every brexiteer pinned their hat to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike E 6251 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, den said: @Tyrone Shoelaces There’s a desperado Called Tyrone Shoelaces? Wow, I would never have believed that. I just want to point out that after *checks notes* 11 years on this messageboard, it's only just twigged that @Tyrone Shoelaces is a play on words... Edited January 12 by Mike E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
only2garners 1510 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: When we fly out to Spain we usually take a few M&S sandwiches on the plane to tide us over until we can get to the supermarket in the village. Sometimes they are closed when we arrive etc. Given that the Dutch border control people were taking sandwiches off British drivers at the Dutch border yesterday it looks like we might have to go hungry. Tyrone - remarkably although you can't take animal products into the EU you can take up to 20kg of fish* in. You could make some belting prawn sandwiches instead. * Or more if it's one fish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaddyrovers 5766 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 11/01/2021 at 13:25, Dreams of 1995 said: Got ours delivered this morning. Zero substitutes which is a rarity even without a "Brexit crisis"!!! I must live in a bubble because all of these stories of chaos and crisis never seem to reach Birmingham. I went to my local fruit and vegetable market stall this morning. Everything as per normal. No price increases. Got what we normal get for Tuesday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gumboots 4352 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Mike E said: I just want to point out that after *checks notes* 11 years on this messageboard, it's only just twigged that @Tyrone Shoelaces is a play on words... 🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoochie Bloochie Mama 3982 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mike E said: I just want to point out that after *checks notes* 11 years on this messageboard, it's only just twigged that @Tyrone Shoelaces is a play on words... Internal dialogue Mike, keep that stuff to yourself. 😉 Edited January 12 by Hoochie Bloochie Mama Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dreams of 1995 4390 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Brexit has today divided the Dreams’ household. Just before Christmas Mrs Dreams told me she wanted some new house plants being the green fingered woman she is. Our house is already reminiscent of a rainforest as it is. I live in bamboo and green. When I checked the PayPal I realised “a few” meant £99.50 worth. I was told the big money was in the pots but let it slide. Today the money was reimbursed because they are unable to ship to the U.K. presently. No actual mention of Brexit but I can only imagine it is what has caused it. So whilst Mrs Dreams is cursing Brexit for not being able to add to the Forest of Dreams, I am currently sat pretty with my £99.50 back wondering if I should buy a nice bottle of wine for tonight’s meal. Thank you Brexit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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