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Danny Rose is well off the pace. Another dummy .

Loftus cheek needs to just up his fitness and he'd start for me with Ali.

Loftus Cheeks fitness needs to be at or above the level of Lingaards for me. 

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He has a couple of lines through the rest of the article On Alf Ramsay: ’He didn’t know the players like Walter Winterbottom, he was a bit naive at first. To be honest, the lads took the pis

Great piece in The Times today talking to England players from 1954 until 2014. Bryan Douglas talks about ‘58 and ‘62. It’s probably behind a paywall, so:      

Bullshit. They were nasty and tried every dirty trick in the book. Got what they deserved - out. 

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On 06/06/2018 at 18:47, Audax said:

I'm not into this World Cup as I have been in other ones.

 

Perhaps playing the Danny Welbeck World Cup Drinking  Game could revive interest?

In England's final group game he could go head to head against The poor man's Heskey (Lukaku). Double the fun, hic! ?

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Watched all the warm up games. Think the first xi will be

----------------------Pickford 

--------Walker----Stones----Maguire 

Trippier--------Henderson---------Rose

---------Lingard--------------------Alli

---------------Kane-------Rashford

It's a big call to drop Sterling, but Rashford was superb. 

Harsh for Dier to be dropped but think Henderson has edged it, and the system doesn't really work with both of them in there.

Rest of team picks itself I think. Stones at centre of defence worries me a bit, but I think Southgate will definitely go for it. 

Were nowhere near the level of France, Germany etc. talent-wise but I have admiration for how Southgate has pulled the team together with a smart system. 

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A bit generous to say Rashford is better than Sterling. Compare their numbers and Rashford is nowhere near him...

To be fair, we should be playing the both of them and Kane IMO.

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My team would be

                     Pickford

         Walker Stones Maguire

Tripper  Lingard  Dier  Ali  Rose

                  Kane Sterling

Tough on Rashford but its really good to see so much competition for places. 

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3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

My team would be

                     Pickford

         Walker Stones Maguire

Walker  Lingard  Dier  Ali  Rose

                  Kane Sterling

Tough on Rashford but its really good to see so much competition for places. 

Two Walkers, bold. What about two Kanes up top? Would be unstoppable.

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56 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

My team would be

                     Pickford

         Walker Stones Maguire

Tripper  Lingard  Dier  Ali  Rose

                  Kane Sterling

Tough on Rashford but its really good to see so much competition for places. 

Henderson for Dier, otherwise id pick the same team. Better on the ball, more progressive in his passing, better positionally, more of a leader, had a far better season individually.

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England will have a decent world cup by recent standards until the second knock out round when they face either Brazil or Germany. Both are beatable by England but won't be.

For once unless Colombia show hidden capabilities, coming first or second in our group isn't going to matter much for getting through the first knock out round. 

I expect England v Belgium to be a draw despite Belgium being comfortably the better side.

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Great piece in The Times today talking to England players from 1954 until 2014.

Bryan Douglas talks about ‘58 and ‘62. It’s probably behind a paywall, so:

 

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3 hours ago, philipl said:

England will have a decent world cup by recent standards until the second knock out round when they face either Brazil or Germany. Both are beatable by England but won't be.

For once unless Colombia show hidden capabilities, coming first or second in our group isn't going to matter much for getting through the first knock out round. 

I expect England v Belgium to be a draw despite Belgium being comfortably the better side.

Agree on paper..dont think belgium are that much better..lukaku is overrated.had a poor domestic season at united..their defenders are injury prone..admittedly de bruyne hazard and cortouis are world class..if we can start with ali, kane, sterling and rashford we can give any team a problem

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13 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Great piece in The Times today talking to England players from 1954 until 2014.

Bryan Douglas talks about ‘58 and ‘62. It’s probably behind a paywall, so:

 

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Thanks for that. His pride at being from Blackburn and playing for Rovers stands out.

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He has a couple of lines through the rest of the article

On Alf Ramsay:

’He didn’t know the players like Walter Winterbottom, he was a bit naive at first. To be honest, the lads took the piss out of him, although he obviously learnt quick’

On wages:

’’I went from £14 to £17 to £20 a week. Then Jimmy Hill got involved. I went to a function with Jimmy McIllroy, who told me Burnley were offering him £50. ‘Bloody hell Jimmy’, I said. ‘How are you going to spend 50 quid in Burnley?’.

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I think England will do better than the last few tournaments. Southgate has not made a tit of himself yet, and it seems that there are fewer egos than the last few squads. And by better I mean actually competing in the group games and probably getting through rather than losing to Tunisia 4-2.

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Brilliant piece on Douglas.

Was enjoying my early Saturday morning walk and realised the World Cup starts five days from now- zero buzz or evidence of it. Not seen any adverts or merchandising relating to it. Ok only been in five countries recently and all did not qualify but still...

Tried another thought experiment and realised that this is the first World Cup I have been old enough to know about such things (ie since 1962) that I know nobody going to the World Cup to watch it from the stands (as opposed to watching from the subs bench...).

 

 

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1 hour ago, roverandout said:

Agree on paper..dont think belgium are that much better..lukaku is overrated.had a poor domestic season at united..their defenders are injury prone..admittedly de bruyne hazard and cortouis are world class..if we can start with ali, kane, sterling and rashford we can give any team a problem

I dont think you can fit all 4 of them in the same team. Its Sterling or Rashford and for me, Sterling is a more complete player off the back of a superb season.

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5 hours ago, philipl said:

England will have a decent world cup by recent standards until the second knock out round when they face either Brazil or Germany. Both are beatable by England but won't be.

For once unless Colombia show hidden capabilities, coming first or second in our group isn't going to matter much for getting through the first knock out round. 

I expect England v Belgium to be a draw despite Belgium being comfortably the better side.

England definitely have the attacking talent to beat teams, but shakiness and inexperience elsewhere will be their undoing. I'm with the majority opinion on here that Southgate will pick 2 from Sterling, Rashford, and Alli to play behind Kane. I think Sterling is in; he's played well all season, and has a World Cup under his belt. Rashford is dynamic, but Alli plays well with Kane. 

Colombia won more games at the last World Cup than all their previous appearances combined. 

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5 hours ago, Norbert Rassragr said:

I think England will do better than the last few tournaments. Southgate has not made a tit of himself yet, and it seems that there are fewer egos than the last few squads. And by better I mean actually competing in the group games and probably getting through rather than losing to Tunisia 4-2.

I feel the same way, but then I felt the same way a week before the tournament every time England have qualified. Always seems like things are looking up going into the finals then you get kicked in the nuts! 

I will say this though, much as I think Allardyce is a very very good manager and gets too much stick, I am happy he got the boot so we could adopt  an attacking setup. If Sam was in charge we would be grinding it out with 451. At least we should - win or lose - be entertaining to watch under Southgate 

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