Blow-in 203 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, Ewood Ace said: Pele's predictions, always good for a laugh. http://www.goal.com/en/news/2377/top-10/2009/06/23/1338375/top-10-wrong-pele-predictions The thing with Mascherano is that he hasn't played that position in club football for about 7 years & he doesn't have the legs to play in there now. He should be playing in his best position which is centre back & if he did he would be Argentina's best centre back. Thats like being the worlds tallest dwarf. A tall dwarf i grant you but still not tall enough to be an owner occupier of an enchanted beanstalk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Tyrone Shoelaces 11536 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, jim mk2 said: A draw would have seen them through - I don't blame them for that. Most teams would have done the same - including Argentina. If I'd a £1 for every time I've seen a team play like that and then get pipped in the last 5 minutes or so I'd be a rich man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Husky 1961 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, Ewood Ace said: Pele predictions, always give a good laugh. http://www.goal.com/en/news/2377/top-10/2009/06/23/1338375/top-10-wrong-pele-predictions ? "Even in fiction, Pele's predictions go wrong". I'm gonna contact him and ask if he'll Tweet that England will never ever win the World Cup ever again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AllRoverAsia 5373 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 20 minutes ago, perthblue02 said: Pele retired years ago FIFATV on Youtube have a short film on Pele's WC career. Found it by accident yesterday. Immensely enjoyable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
perthblue02 4763 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Blow-in said: Thats like being the worlds tallest dwarf. A tall dwarf i grant you but still not tall enough to be an owner occupier of an enchanted beanstalk. Disgraceful height discrimination , the word is vertically challenged, and what is to say a slightly less vertically challenged person can not rise to be the owner occupier of the enchanted beanstoke* *That is if an Argentinian vertically challenged person has not just got there and tried to claim it as their own Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Husky 1961 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) Var is Great Not sure if you guys following UK coverage (more suppressive) will have seen this, but it was shown on the coverage from the 'cameras on the other side of the pitch'. Edited June 26, 2018 by Husky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 10412 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Pictures of Maradona being seen to by Paramedics after the game either legless drunk or from drugs. During the game he looked comically out of it but it’s obviously a real issue, he needs help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Audax 439 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Husky said: Var is Great Not sure if you guys following UK coverage (more suppressive) will have seen this, but it was shown on the coverage from the 'cameras on the other side of the pitch'. Suppressive? It's Russia who is 138th out of 180 countries for freedom of the press, I'm sure as heck not going to believe them. Non-free elections and on down the line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miker 1013 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Interesting to see who takes the spots in the semifinals. One of the spots will be taken by one of France, Argentina, Portugal or Uruguay. All strong teams. Pre-tournament my money would be on France, but they have been so poor in their group games. Argentina and Portugal both have a chance due to Messi and Ronaldo, but I would love Uruguay to win it as they deserve it the most after their performances in the group stage. I expect the 2nd semi final spot to go to either Spain or Croatia, which is a really tough one to call. Croatia have been so impressive and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them defeat Spain in the quarterfinal. I can’t see Denmark or Russia progressing any further. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Audax 439 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Croatia look like one of the best to me, I think Mexico is as well. I'm not positive if Mexico is going to route Sweden though later on. For the Swedes, win or go home. The match has me baffled some. Serbia's not a bad team either but they are playing Brazil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joey_big_nose 2953 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Miker said: Interesting to see who takes the spots in the semifinals. One of the spots will be taken by one of France, Argentina, Portugal or Uruguay. All strong teams. Pre-tournament my money would be on France, but they have been so poor in their group games. Argentina and Portugal both have a chance due to Messi and Ronaldo, but I would love Uruguay to win it as they deserve it the most after their performances in the group stage. I expect the 2nd semi final spot to go to either Spain or Croatia, which is a really tough one to call. Croatia have been so impressive and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them defeat Spain in the quarterfinal. I can’t see Denmark or Russia progressing any further. Although they are dull as dishwasher France look a good bet to me. Very very difficult to score against, probably the physically strongest team at the tournament, and have half a dozen players who can score goals out of nothing. They could grind it out I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philipl 7031 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Uruguay are the team which all round has been the most impressive thus far. Let's see if that has jinxed them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike E 6254 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 For those wondering just why England hate Argentina so much: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/diego-maradona-world-cup-argentina-england-falklands-war-patriotism-a8419006.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530095280 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
perthblue02 4763 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, Mike E said: For those wondering just why England hate Argentina so much: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/diego-maradona-world-cup-argentina-england-falklands-war-patriotism-a8419006.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530095280 2014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Husky 1961 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 And here's me thinking it's because of moments like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWsEuczNj48 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
perthblue02 4763 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Husky said: And here's me thinking it's because of moments like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWsEuczNj48 Bet the ref never had to buy a tin of corned beef ever again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AllRoverAsia 5373 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 53 minutes ago, Mike E said: For those wondering just why England hate Argentina so much: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/diego-maradona-world-cup-argentina-england-falklands-war-patriotism-a8419006.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530095280 It started way before Maradona had arrived on any scene. In 1966 Argentina, by then an established retirement home for runaway Nazis, arrived for the WC in England and proceeded to give a shameful and brutal display of thuggery against their hosts moving Sir Alf to call them animals setting off a political crisis and fanning Argie anger. Not the main reason for Thatcher's later triumph but a part of it. Still having said that they had great teams when winning their World Cups and in Messi have the best current player in the world. Maradona, great player that he was, becomes more and more a figure of ridicule which is sad. Suffice to say his offer to give a team talk was not taken up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Husky 1961 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 If you believe that teams look ahead to who they might play in the knock out stages and try and act accordingly then Belgium v England could end up being a Monty Python match with Belgium playing for a draw and England trying to lose. Also, do Brazil care who they play next? Surely they would want to avoid Germany? If they do they might end up playing for a draw against Serbia and let Switzerland take the group. What do people think? Surely teams and coaches etc. must think in the same way that the media and fans do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Husky 1961 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) Also, how the hell was this not a penalty? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIQunAQosAs It seems getting the ball first and then following through IS a penalty (France v Australia), yet taking a player out with a clear goalscoring opportunity ISN'T. Did they all bottle the red card scenario? It seems so. VAR is as clear as mud. Edited June 27, 2018 by Husky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Audax 439 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Yes, that's a penalty: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Audax 439 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 This is not a politics forum, I will say, Argentina seem to have a decent president now. I don't know if this current president would be into this Falklands/Malvinas activism but I doubt it. In May, Boris Johnson went to Argentina to honour the war dead, I thought on both sides of the conflict (this is also the 2nd time a British dignitary has done something like this: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/19/boris-johnson-to-lay-falklands-wreath-in-argentina-latin-america-trip Argentina were a troubled country for quite a number of years or decades. They have also had good basketball teams in the Olympics and so on. They seem to be on the right track now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Audax 439 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) Maradona is from my era when I started watching football. He's larger than life, I don't even mind him as a human being with his personal foibles; but it appears pretty clear, doping and not just cocaine probably influenced his play. He may not be by a long shot the only footballer who has. It would not surprise me if some other 'stars' might have done some blood doping. So, Maradona has an asterisk by his name. I don't think he did it in an overly sinister way, I think a lot of "speed", amphetamine was used in South America during that time. No way to I consider Messi, without a billion dollar half of the Spanish world/euro champion midfield, the best player in the world. Edited June 27, 2018 by Audax Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DE. 11970 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Germany looking poor again. I imagine they'll win as South Korea are significantly worse in terms of talent, but this isn't the Germany I'm used to seeing at tournaments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Husky 1961 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Audax said: it appears pretty clear, doping and not just cocaine probably influenced his play. That certainly would explain how a midget was able to out-jump a 6ft goalkeeper. Super Maraio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Audax 439 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Swedes given a chance at a PK, it looks real to me..... that would make it 2-0 if they make it.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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