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10 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

It's blasphemy around here, but Holtby is a better player. 

Dack is just far too immobile and easily man marked out of games. 

Might well be a better player, but he needs to start chipping in with Dack’s goals and assists, which is no mean feat and one you seem to be overlooking. 
I’m not sure why anyone suddenly thinks all the other players in the team will decide to start scoring at Dack’s rate, now he’s injured....

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Fair point Chaddy , think JB summed it up well on twitter  Link   Imagine the negotiations between Venkys and Levy. Insane. Levy: We will give you 10m. 2m upfront, 8m when we win the le

So he got more points in February than Tony Mowbray did , manager material?

Fair enough, if you've got a problem with his off the field antics and the celebrity nature of his girlfriend, I think a lot of people are re-writing history about Dack here. Barring a couple of

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Just now, K-Hod said:

Might well be a better player, but he needs to start chipping in with Dack’s goals and assists, which is no mean feat and one you seem to be overlooking. 
I’m not sure why anyone suddenly thinks all the other players in the team will decide to start scoring at Dack’s rate, now he’s injured....

And there is the rub. Some are saying we won well at Bristol City without him but being without him forced Mowbray to change the shape completely. On Monday when Dack was available again he reverted to type. For me replacing his goals is going to be one of Mowbrays biggest challenges.

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2 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

Thanks Chris. 
ps - my kids wake up at the crack of dawn every day and yet my wife and I are currently lay awake waiting for them to get up this morning! Sod’s law!! ??

I had the same problem with my step daughter today but she's been up.and open her presents now. She's delighted

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20 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

It's blasphemy around here, but Holtby is a better player. 

Dack is just far too immobile and easily man marked out of games. 

Interesting to note perhaps our best performance of the season, and our best period of the Wigan game both came without Dack.

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20 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

We thought that in 92/93 season when Shearer got injured but we found a way to score goals and win games.

No, we just went out and replaced him by buying Kevin Gallagher.

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17 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We signed Gallagher in March not after Shearer got unjured

We signed him because the performances unsurprisingly nose dived after Shearer got injured.

We didn't "find a way to keep winning" as you said. We won just 2 league games in Between January and Gallagher arriving at the end of March, and crashed out of both cups.  We should easily have got past Sheffield united in the fa cup QF but drew a blank at Ewood and ended up having to throw Steve livingstone into the mix for the replay.

The signings of Gallagher and Le Saux revitalised us for the last couple of months and nearly dragged us back into Europe. Losing Shearer was a disaster for what might have been that season.

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1 hour ago, rigger said:

I remember when Tony Field , Simon Garner, David Speedie, Alan Shearer, Andy Cole, Jordan Rhodes, left, people said who will score the goals for us. Let’s see what happens.

Great point! Add Bellamy, Roque Santa Cruz and Benny McCarthy to that list...

Holtby has all the tools to succeed Dack. Maybe the time has come for Gallagher and Brereton to live up to their price tags and deliver. A chance for Buckley and / or JRC to step up? 

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22 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

 

Maybe the time has come for Gallagher and Brereton to live up to their price tags and deliver. 

I don't get this post. You make it sound like its their decision whether they should  play much better or not. Surely, if it were within their power, they would have made that decision months ago. Nobody wants to be a failure do they?

The fees paid are nothing to do with them either. Why can't we accept that a) we paid too much and b) that constituted poor recruitment by the club?

Not their fault but the the idea that they can suddenly make themselves worth what Rovers paid for them is ridiculous.

Its a transfer of blame isn't it?

PS---I haven't entirely given up on Gallagher, there's some sort of footballer in there somewhere, but the fact remains we have several central strikers on the books and none of them score regularly. Who do you blame for that? I always thought the buck stops with the manager?

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we`re not set up to score goals,simple as that,mowbrays tactics are contain,keep it tight,wait for the opposition to tire or make a mistake then score (hopefully),it puzzles me mightily why he`s spent 12 million quid on two strikers he does`nt use (one on the wing and the other who appears to be anything but a footballer)

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Whilst I obviously hope they do, what makes people think that those that need to step up, really will no Dack is injured?

I’m not having a go, I’m just curious!

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23 minutes ago, J*B said:

Yeah, he had terms agreed with WBA and approval from Tony and is currently gutted. True story. 

Assuming that's true, and I'm prepared to go along with it, that presumably scuppers some transfers we had lined up? :(

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Assuming that's true, and I'm prepared to go along with it, that presumably scuppers some transfers we had lined up? :(

Probably puts us back about 6 months and a good few million pounds. When he’s fit again next season he will have 12 months left on his deal and we are looking at a summer transfer rather than a January transfer, where the market is inflated. Not good news at all. 

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Probably puts us back about 6 months and a good few million pounds. When he’s fit again next season he will have 12 months left on his deal and we are looking at a summer transfer rather than a January transfer, where the market is inflated. Not good news at all. 

How much was WBA offering for Dack? 

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37 minutes ago, J*B said:

Yeah, he had terms agreed with WBA and approval from Tony and is currently gutted. True story. 

Wow. Big news.

His shot at the Premier League gone in flash. Tough to take.

To be honest, I'm not sure how well he would have cut it at that level. But he deserved the chance to give it a crack.

Gutted for him, and gutted for us. Proper spanner in the works. 

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6 hours ago, 47er said:

I don't get this post. You make it sound like its their decision whether they should  play much better or not. Surely, if it were within their power, they would have made that decision months ago. Nobody wants to be a failure do they?

The fees paid are nothing to do with them either. Why can't we accept that a) we paid too much and b) that constituted poor recruitment by the club?

Not their fault but the the idea that they can suddenly make themselves worth what Rovers paid for them is ridiculous.

Its a transfer of blame isn't it?

PS---I haven't entirely given up on Gallagher, there's some sort of footballer in there somewhere, but the fact remains we have several central strikers on the books and none of them score regularly. Who do you blame for that? I always thought the buck stops with the manager?

My point is that With Dack potentially out for the foreseeable, I Think it provides an opportunity for the likes of Holtby, Gallagher, Buckley and Brereton etc to step forward out of the shadows. None of them have had an extended period in those top two positions and the team has been historically set up for Dack. 

With respect, the people who signed them know a lot more about footballers than you or I. The only thing ridiculous here is you thinking otherwise. 

There’s lots of reasons why Brereton and Gally haven’t scored. Not being good enough, Time on the pitch, injury, settling in periods, formations, confidence, opportunities Etc etc. I don’t think it’s any one persons fault. I just feel like if I were one of them now I’d see This as a huge opportunity to make the position my own over an extended run.

We’ll know whether the manager thinks they’re ready to step in if he trusts them to do so. 

 

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5 hours ago, Silas said:

Wow. Big news.

His shot at the Premier League gone in flash. Tough to take.

To be honest, I'm not sure how well he would have cut it at that level. But he deserved the chance to give it a crack.

Gutted for him, and gutted for us. Proper spanner in the works. 

Gutted for us!!? Give your head a wobble pal...we’d have been mortified if A fully fit and firing Dack had been sold in January.

IF this story is true, and I doubt it, then the injury has saved our outrage and potentially Tony’s job. There’s no simple replacing Dack in January. Even with £20m in your pocket

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5 hours ago, J*B said:

Probably puts us back about 6 months and a good few million pounds. When he’s fit again next season he will have 12 months left on his deal and we are looking at a summer transfer rather than a January transfer, where the market is inflated. Not good news at all. 

You do know there’s no benefit selling in an inflated market, when you have to replace that player in the same market though right? I would’ve been furious had we sold him in January. Absolutely livid.

As far as I can see. If the deal was to go ahead then for sure the injury has crushed his dream, but it’s done us and Tony a BIG favour. 

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The reality is that he’ll have 12 months left in the summer. So his value, not withstanding how much of an impact this injury will have on him, is now on the slide.

The days of hoping for £10/15 million have gone, unless the club pulls a rabbit out of the hat and agrees a new deal. So not sure how much of a knock on this will have on our future budgets as the mood music from TM in recent months was that he’d be off sooner rather than later with that fee to be used on a re-build.

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