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Just now, Fraserkirky said:

Yeah I started off saying the 'we are better than the squad we got relegated with' claptrap too, but now I'm starting to get more worried, and the statement carries less and less weight.

The team your comparing it too, was two years ago to the day, and money has been pissing into the division since then, the division has gotten stronger. It's not a fair comparison.

As pleasing as last season was, our performances most of the time were quite poor, but for a solid back line and Raya, and touches of quality we were poor for most of the season. After what happened last time in the championship, along with people like Conway getting retained, I am fearful that we are not going to be good enough.

 

Your post was reasonable enough until the last paragraph. Performances most of the time were poor? We wouldn't have been promoted if that was the case. Plain and simple. 

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Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

Your post was reasonable enough until the last paragraph. Performances most of the time were poor? We wouldn't have been promoted if that was the case. Plain and simple. 

Thought the entire post was reasonable. We looked a pretty ordinary side carried by Dack most of the rime imo, even at L1 level.

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14 minutes ago, Fraserkirky said:

Yeah I started off saying the 'we are better than the squad we got relegated with' claptrap too, but now I'm starting to get more worried, and the statement carries less and less weight.

The team your comparing it too, was two years ago to the day, and money has been pissing into the division since then, the division has gotten stronger. It's not a fair comparison.

As pleasing as last season was, our performances most of the time were quite poor, but for a solid back line and Raya, and touches of quality we were poor for most of the season. After what happened last time in the championship, along with people like Conway getting retained, I am fearful that we are not going to be good enough.

 

Spot on especially the money paragraph look at the signings cost 2 years ago to now. Crickey  Forest have just spent 13m on one player. 2 years ago they purchased assambalonga for 5.

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Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

Your post was reasonable enough until the last paragraph. Performances most of the time were poor? We wouldn't have been promoted if that was the case. Plain and simple. 

I missed two games last year out of 46. We were poor in most, no point sugar coating it. We had a couple of players that had no business being in the league, namely Dack, Raya and Mulgrew.

We need to improve a lot before this season kicks off.  

 

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Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Thought the entire post was reasonable. We looked a pretty ordinary side carried by Dack most of the rime imo, even at L1 level.

Agreed we really lacked a spark without Dack so much so when injured twice he was still an option from the bench or started with a niggle expecting 60 mins from him.

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Just now, Fraserkirky said:

I missed two games last year out of 46. We were poor in most, no point sugar coating it. We had a couple of players that had no business being in the league, namely Dack, Raya and Mulgrew.

We need to improve a lot before this season kicks off.  

 

Ridiculous statement. 

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Just now, Scotland1 said:

Agreed we really lacked a spark without Dack so much so when injured twice he was still an option from the bench or started with a niggle expecting 60 mins from him.

I can see your point but there was a completely different context. 99% of the teams we faced played to stop us. This season there will be more space in the final third because teams will come at us instead of sitting in.

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47 minutes ago, Fraserkirky said:

I missed two games last year out of 46. We were poor in most, no point sugar coating it. We had a couple of players that had no business being in the league, namely Dack, Raya and Mulgrew.

We need to improve a lot before this season kicks off.  

 

We need improvements yes.

But your assessment of last season? ??

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Just now, RovingRover said:

We need improvements yes.

But your assessment of last season? ??

He does have a point. Strip away the heady final days of what turned out to be a successful season.  So many "ordinary" performances were saved by one or two moments of shear class. I would imagine a stroll through the match threads on this very site would find many expressing a similar view.

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22 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

He does have a point. Strip away the heady final days of what turned out to be a successful season.  So many "ordinary" performances were saved by one or two moments of shear class. I would imagine a stroll through the match threads on this very site would find many expressing a similar view.

If we were that bad, we wouldn't have went up. We were a point away from winning the league. 

We won a lot of games. We found different ways to win them

Such strange criticism 

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Classic Nixon. Giving himself till Sunday to come up with a bullshit reason why a deal he said was definitely going ahead, is now not going ahead :lol: Take note Chadster your mate really does know F ALL. 

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Just now, Butty said:

Classic Nixon. Giving himself till Sunday to come up with a bullshit reason why a deal he said was definitely going ahead, is now not going ahead :lol: Take note Chadster your mate really does know F ALL. 

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He's a dinosaur and about time he was extinct from this stuff but he has his agent pals to serve and probably a few bookies so he'll continue to spin his yarns whilst there's a few quid in it.

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2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Thought the entire post was reasonable. We looked a pretty ordinary side carried by Dack most of the rime imo, even at L1 level.

I suspect there’s no way you’ll agree with 1/3 of what got us out of jail, but in terms of goals it was definitely Dack, Graham and Mulgrew that saved our bacon time and again. 

Also, on occasion, Raya pulled off worldie saves...

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2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Thought the entire post was reasonable. We looked a pretty ordinary side carried by Dack most of the rime imo, even at L1 level.

Omg. If any person believes you can accumulate 96 points, scoring 80+ goals as an ‘ordinary side carried by Dack’ (or any one player) they have no knowledge or experience of team success.  

I don’t know where this ‘we were average last season’ rhetoric is coming from but I can only think that it’s borne of the frustration of grown men who are impatiently waiting for transfer news.

It’s beyond ridiculous. Laughable.

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42 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

I suspect there’s no way you’ll agree with 1/3 of what got us out of jail, but in terms of goals it was definitely Dack, Graham and Mulgrew that saved our bacon time and again. 

Also, on occasion, Raya pulled off worldie saves...

Also, early in the season, Chapman who made cameo performances which changed games, then there was Smallwoods last gasp winner at Fleetwood, oh and how about Bennett’s mom performance in Cm against Shrewsbury? Hang on, Armstrong scored 8 goals too...Antonsson started the season in excellent goal scoring form...

Amazing really, for a one man band!! Haha

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15 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Do you seriously think we played well for the majority of the season ? I can think of maybe 6 to 8 games were we dominated teams for more than 30 minutes. Most of the time we had a short period of good play that was enough to win us the game.

There was so many games last season I walked off thinking we'd played poorly but we'd still won. Doesn't make you a bad side though! Look at the season the Dingles have just had, my step dad is a season ticket holder for that lot and 9 times out of 10 after they'd won and I asked him how they played he'd say rubbish and that it was a poor game :lol: stepping up a division we have nothing to fear, if we can keep the ability to get results when we don't play well it will serve us well. 

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I'm one of those who pointed out weeks ago that TM stated he wanted the transfer business done early and he specifically talked about having the whole squad together in Austria.

Since then, one signing and the Austrian trip has come round.

Am I being a Knee-trembler or Nay-sayer when I say that I'm concerned that maybe, for one reason or another, we are failing to maintain the momentum we created last season?

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2 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

Also, early in the season, Chapman who made cameo performances which changed games, then there was Smallwoods last gasp winner at Fleetwood, oh and how about Bennett’s mom performance in Cm against Shrewsbury? Hang on, Armstrong scored 8 goals too...Antonsson started the season in excellent goal scoring form...

Amazing really, for a one man band!! Haha

I find it impossible to take your argument seriously when you're citing players who are no longer at the Club in support of your argument that We're going to be decent next Season.

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5 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I find it impossible to take your argument seriously when you're citing players who are no longer at the Club in support of your argument that We're going to be decent next Season.

This has nothing to do with whether they’re still with us or not, or next season. You made the point that last season rovers were a poor side carried by Dack. Iv now pointed out that having accumulated those points and goals along with the excellent performances from several players that it is ludicrous to say we were poor and inaccurate to say we were carried by Dack. 

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7 hours ago, Butty said:

There was so many games last season I walked off thinking we'd played poorly but we'd still won. Doesn't make you a bad side though! Look at the season the Dingles have just had, my step dad is a season ticket holder for that lot and 9 times out of 10 after they'd won and I asked him how they played he'd say rubbish and that it was a poor game :lol: stepping up a division we have nothing to fear, if we can keep the ability to get results when we don't play well it will serve us well. 

This is more like it. Yes of course, great teams win when they’re seemingly ‘playing badly’. It’s very difficult to do and luck plays no part in it.

Last season 99% of the teams we faced camped on their own box with the sole intention of stopping us. There were some games where a bit of magic from Dack etc would win that game but the vast majority were won by a team that would not give up. They dug in and finally made our 70% possession pay. I remember at least two teams starting with 6-4-0 formations at Ewood, several others deployied it during games.

Rovers were not poor (apart from those early games settling in). They were caught up in so many games where the opposition had no intention of playing football. That was the reason we felt deflated at times walking out of the ground having won. It hadn’t bern entertaining, more a test of the teams desire to break through.

Poor teams with one good player cannot achieve what they did last season. To truly believe this, you cannot understand what it takes to succeed as a team.

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Just had the pleasure of speaking to a Scunny season ticket holder on Holmes and Adelukan.

Holmes he rates really high, work ethic and attitude spot on and reckons he will easily play championship football. Okay centrally but slightly better out wide.

Adelukun he says stay away from apparently got caught drink driving and lives in Doncaster so the club pay for a taxi to training and back. He fell out with Alexander as his mate took him in one day and decided to donught spin his car in the training ground.

Says 97 percent of the time he’s non existent, head drops allot and he’s petulant. Reckons he’s a highlight player based on the fact he can score 1 in 6 games. Awful attitude.

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26 minutes ago, Scotland1 said:

Just had the pleasure of speaking to a Scunny season ticket holder on Holmes and Adelukan.

Holmes he rates really high, work ethic and attitude spot on and reckons he will easily play championship football. Okay centrally but slightly better out wide.

Adelukun he says stay away from apparently got caught drink driving and lives in Doncaster so the club pay for a taxi to training and back. He fell out with Alexander as his mate took him in one day and decided to donught spin his car in the training ground.

Says 97 percent of the time he’s non existent, head drops allot and he’s petulant. Reckons he’s a highlight player based on the fact he can score 1 in 6 games. Awful attitude.

Adelukan's older brother was a bit of a wrongun too - so perhaps this is one to avoid.

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12 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

He does have a point. Strip away the heady final days of what turned out to be a successful season.  So many "ordinary" performances were saved by one or two moments of shear class. I would imagine a stroll through the match threads on this very site would find many expressing a similar view.

Not every game can be that of a wonderful performance. I don't care how we gain points, as long as they are gained within the laws of the game.

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