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Just now, roversfan99 said:

Whilst I understand those saying we need to take our time etc, the importance of a strong start is particularly prevalent this season, and something I totally agree with. Sadly some people see this valid point and miscontrue it as mindless negativity.

The first 6 fixtures are very favourable, albeit obviously not easy, we are on a high so its about maintaining momentum, and weve had bad starts in each of the last 2 seasons. 

That said, I hope that the team that played v Everton can get a good result and we can have a few new additions within the 18 on Saturday, Palmer included that are worth waiting for and we can win regardless. 

I'm still clinging to the hope we have someone decent lined up that might cost a bit and for whatever reason it hasn't fallen into place yet but I'm telling you im gonna be majorly pissed off if deadline day comes around and we throw in a couple of pathetic bids for decent players that we know won't get accepted to just to show they are trying.

Competitive budget for what to at best finish 14th.

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Jesus Christ, give the girl a break. Who knows what she's like? Having her character assassinated and reasons for being with her fella by a bunch of internet nobodies because of how she looks, pretty

There should be no excuses and no cliches imo. The window so far has been...underwhelming.  Do I think we’d go down with this squad? No? Is it better than the one which went down? Yes, I believe

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3 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

He's said all along about an A and b list etc and talked as if he is still hopeful of his A list..

But the players in so far - and linked go against all the rhetoric about wide players, strikers and older players with champ experience. 

Trust Tony as genuinely wanting the best for the club - yes.

Trust Tony not to screw up this transfer window - jury well and truly out.

*If Chapman was available cheap, then passing that up is just bizzarre IMO. 

Cheap in today's market perhaps? Cheap considering our budget? Not so sure. 

He's a high risk signing if we don't have much cash, and was only used as an impact sub last season in L1. After that he suffered back to back hamstring injuries, one of them required surgery and lengthy rehab. He's only recently started playing again, and who knows if and when he will break down again? I like him as a player, and I felt Mowbray didn't utilise him enough early doors, but at this moment in time he wouldn't be top of my shopping list.

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9 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

Cheap in today's market perhaps? Cheap considering our budget? Not so sure. 

He's a high risk signing if we don't have much cash, and was only used as an impact sub last season in L1. After that he suffered back to back hamstring injuries, one of them required surgery and lengthy rehab. He's only recently started playing again, and who knows if and when he will break down again? I like him as a player, and I felt Mowbray didn't utilise him enough early doors, but at this moment in time he wouldn't be top of my shopping list.

He'd be ahead of a centre back!

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8 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

Cheap in today's market perhaps? Cheap considering our budget? Not so sure. 

He's a high risk signing if we don't have much cash, and was only used as an impact sub last season in L1. After that he suffered back to back hamstring injuries, one of them required surgery and lengthy rehab. He's only recently started playing again, and who knows if and when he will break down again? I like him as a player, and I felt Mowbray didn't utilise him enough early doors, but at this moment in time he wouldn't be top of my shopping list.

Why do we keep getting told we have a competitive budget then?

They are charging me to lie to my face. I thought the lieing to the fans had stopped.

I'm on one tonight and I do hope I'm wrong but come on how many things have changed in this window,first the manager said he wanted a goalkeeper to challenge Raya now there is no mention of goalkeeper ,We wanted our buisness done early, I didn't expect that to be Austria but we are less than a week away from kick off

If they weren't given much money if they said at the beginning then fans would be angry but would be more likely to rally round the team and manager

If a player like Chapman is available at that price and you have a competitive budget then you take a chance.If managed correctly and if he is only an impact sub he can still create a bit of magic that will win us a game.He is doing well pre season

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42 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I did mention Barry McKay as potential signing. 500k is a bargain. Quality player. Deffo someone we should be signing. I hope we are in for him and can beat Swansea to sign him.

Then it would leave money for quality striker to come in permanent and back up centre back. Then another loan winger/striker. Rather we did it that way. 

That's my worry chadster that we don't have the money to do those deals.

Despite my ramblings I do hope that I'm wrong and that Mowbray has someone decent lined up 

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12 minutes ago, islander200 said:

That's my worry chadster that we don't have the money to do those deals.

Despite my ramblings I do hope that I'm wrong and that Mowbray has someone decent lined up 

500k for McKay is a bargain and great investment for us. He will only improve. Disappointed we not in for him. Fair enough if we have someone better line up but I cant see considering the talent and reported price. 

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I think the key to things dragging on is the agents wanting their huge slices for being gatekeepers.  At least our main targets also seem to be digging their heels in and haven't gone elsewhere YET.  Rest assured, agents are hogs around a trough and they'll be pushing deals through this week because they'll want something rather than nothing.

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Rich Sharpe keeps on mentioning that one of our cash purchases might even eclipse the fee paid for Bradley Dack last summer. Wow. So we might surpass 750k on one player and that is supposed to be something to be excited about. I don't obsess over how much people cost but surely having won promotion to a higher level then the transfer budget should be significantly higher?

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If we blow some of our budget on a centre half, particularly ahead of a striker, when we've let Wharton go out on loan, then I'll be a mixture of annoyed and confused.......

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5 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Rich Sharpe keeps on mentioning that one of our cash purchases might even eclipse the fee paid for Bradley Dack last summer. Wow. So we might surpass 750k on one player and that is supposed to be something to be excited about. I don't obsess over how much people cost but surely having won promotion to a higher level then the transfer budget should be significantly higher?

This is the world we find ourselves in now unfortunately. 8 years of chronic mismanagement and corruption from the owners and the vultures that made the most of the situation. 

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14 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Rich Sharpe keeps on mentioning that one of our cash purchases might even eclipse the fee paid for Bradley Dack last summer. Wow. So we might surpass 750k on one player and that is supposed to be something to be excited about. I don't obsess over how much people cost but surely having won promotion to a higher level then the transfer budget should be significantly higher?

Who is excited about that? 

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I doubt very much Mowbray said Chapman was available for cheap. I distinctly remember Mowbray saying that Pulis wants him involved in pre season to take a look at him. This would contradict saying he was available for cheap. Chapman has indeed been involved in pre season and is doing well it seems. 

It's stuff like this, where one poster on here says something like "Chapman was available for cheap, but Mowbray didn't do the deal!!!" Next thing it's taken up by others and repeated ad nauseum throughout the season 

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9 hours ago, Tom said:

Just seen Chapman set up a goal yesterday with a run from deep inside his own half, he’s going to be on Boros bench I think, we may have missed the window to get him in at a good price.

Mowbray said earlier that he knew the price and it was cheap, hope we don’t regret this one he’s going to be a star.

Where did he say that? The only thing I've seen is that Boro wanted to see him in pre-season before any decisions. Rich Sharpe says he always thought a transfer for Chapman would be more unlikely than likely.

Wonderful run, would really like him back. 

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9 hours ago, Blueandwhitemike said:

 

Trust Mowbray?  I  keep seeing this but what does it mean?

I  trust  TM  to be as honest as he can, to do his best,  I trust that he is a good bloke and  I expect he's great to have a chat with if you can get a word in.  

Does that mean he won't make mistakes?  No.

I know for a fact his judgment isn't perfect.   Trusting him doesn't mean we won't get shafted by the selling club,  it doesn't mean we won't get gazumped by another bidder or that any number of other things that could mean we miss out on who we want. 

To keep saying trust Mowbray is a bit daft.

I  believe there is money to spend and  TM   and Waggott want to spend it but it doesn't mean they are or aren't going to get the right players.

 

Agree with this.

It's OK saying trust Mowbray but he was the one who unearthed Gladwin , Hart and Caddis.

He counteracted this with several cracking additions - including the loans of Chapman and Armstrong.

However if only about half of his transfers turned out to be good, and we are only bringing in 3 more players, then that's why I think people are concerned.

 

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8 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Agree with this.

It's OK saying trust Mowbray but he was the one who unearthed Gladwin , Hart and Caddis.

He counteracted this with several cracking additions - including the loans of Chapman and Armstrong.

However if only about half of his transfers turned out to be good, and we are only bringing in 3 more players, then that's why I think people are concerned.

 

For every Freidel, there are two dozen Fettis' ☺

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What Mowbray actually said was that Chapman was desperate to come back to Ewood but that Mowbray didn't fancy Chapman as a starter, which he also said about Payne. 

In the LT today it states our money will go on a defender and that attackers will be brought in on loan. 

So no permanent deals for AA, Chapman or Madddison. Mark Beevers has been enquired about though so that's exciting. It's a good job we have a 'competitive budget' or it could be really depressing. ?

 

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2 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

 

In the LT today it states our money will go on a defender and that attackers will be brought in on loan. 

 

 

Disturbing.

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If we use any cash for a defender rather than an attacker it will be bemusing, it wasn’t a priority at the start of the window and still isn’t although we have made it more of an issue by sending Wharton out.

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6 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

Mark Beevers has been enquired about though so that's exciting. It's a good job we have a 'competitive budget' or it could be really depressing. 

 

That worries me.  We know how Dack's form drops when beavers are on the scene.

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If we don't sign at least 1 winger or striker on a permanent deal I would say things have not gone according to plan at all this window. No point sugar coating it. Ideally we needed to sign one of each on permanent deals. It is higjy unlikely we could turn either of the loans mooted into permanent deals at some point 

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41 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Agree with this.

It's OK saying trust Mowbray but he was the one who unearthed Gladwin , Hart and Caddis.

He counteracted this with several cracking additions - including the loans of Chapman and Armstrong.

However if only about half of his transfers turned out to be good, and we are only bringing in 3 more players, then that's why I think people are concerned.

 

You're forgetting about last season's big name signing - Whittingham.  As a manager you live or die by your signings and Mowbray has got as many wrong as he has got right. 

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Bauer not happening any time soon...

 

https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/bolton-and-blackburn-both-miss-out-on-charlton-defender-bauer-as-german-offered-new-deal/

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1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Who is excited about that? 

Nobody I would have thought. But the way Sharp has been writing it suggests that it is something we should be hotly anticipating as though we mean business and are set to splash the cash.

£750k in League One was a lot of money for one player, in the Championship its peanuts. We also pulled off a coup with Dack because he'd had a quiet season before coming here and Gillingham needed the money.

I would have expected considerably more to be invested this summer ahead of our Championship return yet the Telegraph are at work trying to convince readers that £750,000 or so is big money. It isn't.

 

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