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Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Because they will be our players! Plus most people would have taken that squad (with maybe the exception of Antonsson) to at least consolidate in 't championship.

I beg to differ.. We need improving.. That now seems a distant hope.

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4 minutes ago, Bepeja43 said:

If we sign Chapman, in addition to Armstrong, how exactly have we improved on last seasons league one team?

But looking at it another way we will not be worse which is already an improvement on the last few years. That is therefore a positive and a reason for optimism even if it proves to be ill founded.

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Or both Graham and Chapman live in the Middlesbrough area, Graham has had the day or afternoon off training, as has Chapman after Boro's game last night so went for a catch up.

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13 minutes ago, AdamRochina said:

if we were to fall back on Chapman after mowbrays comments swell as Armstrong does that mean most of mowbrays plan a targets didn't happen so we went with what we know?

No, I'd say it was all a clever plot by Mowbray to get the best deal. Probably 

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4 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Chapman just shared a video on instagram of himself with Dann Graham and he wrote "the big dog". 

Read into that what you will

You are Danny Graham?

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1 minute ago, Boroblue said:

But looking at it another way we will not be worse which is already an improvement on the last few years. That is therefore a positive and a reason for optimism even if it proves to be ill founded.

Not to be pedantic but of course it weakens us. We are playing at a significantly higher level with the same first team. Wigan strolled L1, even though we should have caught them, and they’ve already brought in three first team improvements - as well as several to improve the bench. We’ve just improved our bench.

Not expecting big things tomorrow, although the Chapman link looks very real now. Hope the loan window bring actual improvements rather than additions which maintain the status quo.

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2 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Chapman just shared a video on instagram of himself with Dann Graham and he wrote "the big dog". 

Read into that what you will

I also find it interesting that his twitter background still shows him in a rovers kit and it says “Harry Chapman Blackburn Rovers”.

I think he will be coming.  Preferably a season long loan for me.  He can then sign with us from 1st Jan as free agent ( not sure if tribunal fee would be due).

 

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Just now, Grez said:

I also find it interesting that his twitter background still shows him in a rovers kit and it says “Harry Chapman Blackburn Rovers”.

I think he will be coming.  Preferably a season long loan for me.  He can then sign with us from 1st Jan as free agent ( not sure if tribunal fee would be due).

 

I would be very happy with that but how would it be in Boros interest to agree to such a deal? 

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1 minute ago, Stuart said:

Not to be pedantic but of course it weakens us. We are playing at a significantly higher level with the same first team. Wigan strolled L1, even though we should have caught them, and they’ve already brought in three first team improvements - as well as several to improve the bench. We’ve just improved our bench.

Not expecting big things tomorrow, although the Chapman link looks very real now. Hope the loan window bring actual improvements rather than additions which maintain the status quo.

So if Wigan strolled league 1 and we should have won it, does that mean we strolled it too? Didn't seem like a stroll to me at times! More like an ultra marathon 

Wigans business this summer had been worse than ours. Debatable if any of those signings will improve them. 

Whats the opposite of rose tinted spectacles?? 

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6 minutes ago, Bepeja43 said:

We desparatly need a targetman.. I haven't even seen us linked with any.. Does TM feel we don't need one?

If you had read the links being posted to you, you would have read that "A striker is top of Mowbray’s wishlist" according to local journalist Rich Sharpe.

Under Mowbray, very little leaks out as far as linked players

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I must be one of a small number who wouldn't be completely enthused by Chapman. I'd be content as it seems he's a popular team member and clearly has potential there, but given his injury record and given Mowbray's reluctance to play him in the league below this I wouldn't look upon him as immediately and significantly improving our team. He'd be a good option off the bench yes, provide pace yes, but perhaps we need someone ready to come straight in and hit the ground running, not an untested kid with significant injury issues recently. 

Not against the idea, would trust Mowbray on that one, but wouldn't be too excited by it.

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3 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I would be very happy with that but how would it be in Boros interest to agree to such a deal? 

Tribunal would apply given his age. Boro would never agree to a loan unless a new contract is signed. So probably has to be a sale. A lot of deal on deadline days if often dependendant on selling club getting players in first, Chapman can very well be one of those given he has been on the bench. 

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2 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Suppose it depends on the player.  If he's said he won't sign an extension, it gives longer to negotiate a fee or let it go to a tribunal as they are guaranteed comp.

But if he is here on loan for the season and out of contract in the summer why we would we pay a fee? 

Also, if he is out of contract, does it still go to tribunal, oh ya it does actually doesn't it? Same as Mahony here. So we would pay a fee to save it going to tribunal. 

OK, answered my own question. Carry on :)

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8 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I would be very happy with that but how would it be in Boros interest to agree to such a deal? 

Better than paying his wages if not playing

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6 minutes ago, briansol said:

If you had read the links being posted to you, you would have read that "A striker is top of Mowbray’s wishlist" according to local journalist Rich Sharpe.

Under Mowbray, very little leaks out as far as linked players

I keep reading Chris martin this and that.. But there's no suggestion at all he's a target.

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