Herbie6590 1402 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, 47er said: I like managers with a high success rate but I haven't got one! Different divisions involved obviously but....?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites
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Herbie6590 1402 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 This is a bit more utd than the one above... Link to post Share on other sites
arbitro 9168 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, Oldgregg86 said: I remember him away at Crewe . He was poor and looked disinterested. I was constantly screaming at him to run for the ball as he just strolled around. As usual he was playing out of his natural position and he didn’t seem to have a clue how to play the role Mowbray gave him I was going to use his performance in that game as an example of how poor he was. Positionally he was all cover the place and as we were so close we could hear other players telling him where to go but he cocked them a deaf 'un. In the first game at Ewood he was sent off and should have been sent off in the replay for deliberately kicking the ball at the referee. From memory he got the hook at halftime. He might have improved his attitude and I hope he does well but the news today of a potential big move will cause some on here to rewrite history. Link to post Share on other sites
tomphil 12871 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Bang on average on the football and signing side of things but he's good at other football club stuff obviously, also we know real well what the below side of average is like. There'll be a real good foundation to build on here when he leaves as long as he doesn't mess it up or it's sold from underneath him. Link to post Share on other sites
Rogerb 489 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, arbitro said: I was going to use his performance in that game as an example of how poor he was. Positionally he was all cover the place and as we were so close we could hear other players telling him where to go but he cocked them a deaf 'un. In the first game at Ewood he was sent off and should have been sent off in the replay for deliberately kicking the ball at the referee. From memory he got the hook at halftime. He might have improved his attitude and I hope he does well but the news today of a potential big move will cause some on here to rewrite history. He did indeed get the hook on half time and was very fortunate to reach half time after an act of petulant I'll discipline Link to post Share on other sites
AAK 1148 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said: God I would love if wr do very well this season. The word eating here would be good. I see the papers are linking Rakeem Harper with Liverpool and juventus. Remember him? Another singing that people said was useless before they even watched him. Oh yes thats right, started one game here in half a season, did absolutley fantastic didnt he? So its either he started one game because at the time he was poor or because the manager got it wrong, and played his trusted, magnificent and reliable bennett, smallwood amd evans in midfield. So which one is it? Its either one or the other, and you wont like either, so would love to know? Link to post Share on other sites
AAK 1148 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said: Different divisions involved obviously but....?♂️ Now the lost column is more than double that so pretty irrelevant, especially given he managed celtic, where chaddy would win the league. Link to post Share on other sites
yeti-dog 563 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Well, people can be sniffy but that managerial career total win % of 42.3 is actually pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites
1864roverite 2491 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I see we still havent had any suggestions as to who the young talented managers are who can come in and better! I appreciate it its an obscure forum but if its discussionable then lets have the discussion. Truth is, there are NO young decent managers out there who would be able to make a mark at Ewood Park. We tried it with Ince, Berg and Appleton and they ALL failed miserably. There is so much good about the club in comparison to the last 7 years, love or hate venkys, they have to be acknowledged for allowing the Academy to flourish after initial abysmal raping of the clubs finances and gross mismanagement within the club. Its now time to be a bit more positive about the club if we can. 6 weeks to get ready for Charlton. I am sure TM and co will have the players he wants at the club. BRFC get behind the club Link to post Share on other sites
Bigdoggsteel 7854 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, AAK said: Oh yes thats right, started one game here in half a season, did absolutley fantastic didnt he? So its either he started one game because at the time he was poor or because the manager got it wrong, and played his trusted, magnificent and reliable bennett, smallwood amd evans in midfield. So which one is it? Its either one or the other, and you wont like either, so would love to know? What are you gibbering on about? It was the usual stuff of him "not being good enough" on here, before he even played for us, or didn't play as was mostly the case. It happens with practically everyone we are linked with or sign. The line was why is Mowbray signing this guy? Well we were in league 1 and a season later he is being linked with two of the biggest clubs in Europe. The move didn't work out here for various reasons, but it just shows that he was a good find. The couch scouts who don't even watch players before writing them off crack me up. Link to post Share on other sites
Bigdoggsteel 7854 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, 1864roverite said: I see we still havent had any suggestions as to who the young talented managers are who can come in and better! I appreciate it its an obscure forum but if its discussionable then lets have the discussion. Truth is, there are NO young decent managers out there who would be able to make a mark at Ewood Park. We tried it with Ince, Berg and Appleton and they ALL failed miserably. There is so much good about the club in comparison to the last 7 years, love or hate venkys, they have to be acknowledged for allowing the Academy to flourish after initial abysmal raping of the clubs finances and gross mismanagement within the club. Its now time to be a bit more positive about the club if we can. 6 weeks to get ready for Charlton. I am sure TM and co will have the players he wants at the club. BRFC get behind the club Fans want us to get the Eddie Howes before he becomes famous. For every Eddie Howe there are 50 "young managers" who do jack shit. They are retrospective football experts. It's the same with signings, "oh we should sign a top quality striker and CB for 3 million each". Who should we sign? "oh I don't know, it's not my job to know." Link to post Share on other sites
Moderation Lead K-Hod 9606 Posted June 23, 2019 Moderation Lead Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: What are you gibbering on about? It was the usual stuff of him "not being good enough" on here, before he even played for us, or didn't play as was mostly the case. It happens with practically everyone we are linked with or sign. The line was why is Mowbray signing this guy? Well we were in league 1 and a season later he is being linked with two of the biggest clubs in Europe. The move didn't work out here for various reasons, but it just shows that he was a good find. The couch scouts who don't even watch players before writing them off crack me up. People remark on what they see, what’s surprising about that? Some players come good, some don’t reach their potential, such is football. Edited June 23, 2019 by K-Hod Link to post Share on other sites
Bigdoggsteel 7854 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 With all this talk of us signing Gallagher can I just ask those postera who don't think he is a good signing, to just say that once please. Some posters will literally tell you they don't like the manager or players every hour, on the hour. Ye know who ye are! Link to post Share on other sites
Bigdoggsteel 7854 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, K-Hod said: People remark on what they see, what’s surprising about that? Some players come good, some don’t reach their potential, such is football. I'm talking about before they see the player actually play. It happens on here and you know it Link to post Share on other sites
Moderation Lead K-Hod 9606 Posted June 23, 2019 Moderation Lead Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: I'm talking about before they see the player actually play. It happens on here and you know it I’m sure it does. People have different opinion, such is life. Link to post Share on other sites
AJW 651 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 52 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said: Different divisions involved obviously but....?♂️ Wow ...couple of things that surprised me there 1) didn't know souness was boss for more games than dalglish and 2) Don Mackay who was vilified for a lot of his time at rovers as a pretty good win ratio Link to post Share on other sites
Mattyblue 14799 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) Appleton, Ince et al were shit, doesn’t mean there are NO good young managers that could do a job at Ewood. What nonsense. Edited June 23, 2019 by Mattyblue Link to post Share on other sites
Butty 2411 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: With all this talk of us signing Gallagher can I just ask those postera who don't think he is a good signing, to just say that once please. Some posters will literally tell you they don't like the manager or players every hour, on the hour. Ye know who ye are! If we sign Gallagher too play up top then yes he’d be a good signing. If we sign Gallagher too play on the wing in the Armstrong role of not tracking back and just not even being a winger in the first place then it’s a no. Don’t know why anyone is talking about changing manager though, he’s not done much wrong and if he hasn’t got a pot too piss in this summer it won’t make a difference who’s in charge we won’t be making the play offs even if Pep was our manager. Link to post Share on other sites
Rogerb 489 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, Butty said: If we sign Gallagher too play up top then yes he’d be a good signing. If we sign Gallagher too play on the wing in the Armstrong role of not tracking back and just not even being a winger in the first place then it’s a no. Don’t know why anyone is talking about changing manager though, he’s not done much wrong and if he hasn’t got a pot too piss in this summer it won’t make a difference who’s in charge we won’t be making the play offs even if Pep was our manager. Pep might sort the defense! Link to post Share on other sites
HowieFive0 1131 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, K-Hod said: I’m sure it does. People have different opinion, such is life. So basically this is a forum where we make up what we want and alls well ..such is life .. Link to post Share on other sites
Moderation Lead K-Hod 9606 Posted June 23, 2019 Moderation Lead Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, HowieFive0 said: So basically this is a forum where we make up what we want and alls well ..such is life .. Not sure how you arrived at that from what I said, but fair enough.... Link to post Share on other sites
HowieFive0 1131 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, K-Hod said: Not sure how you arrived at that from what I said, but fair enough.... "I'm talking about before they see the player actually play. It happens on here and you know it " ..Big Dog quote "I’m sure it does. People have different opinion, such is life." ..your answer . So ok to basically make it up about players before seen ..fair enough ..such is life . As long as we al know the rules .. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattyblue 14799 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 You aren’t going to stop it, that’s football forums, so why get worked up about it? Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart 16645 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Herbie6590 said: I’ve just retweeted some WBA fan comments...(see the Home page if you are not on Twitter) - they bloody love him. I assume he has developed quite a lot since we sent him back. The raw 17y/o has developed it seems... This will be a common theme with Mowbray, as it was with Bowyer. They aren’t brave or bold enough to give youngsters a run out - in their best positions. 1 hour ago, Herbie6590 said: Different divisions involved obviously but....?♂️ As well as being spurious given the L1 games being included, that must be well out of date. 69 games doesn’t cover two full seasons and according to transfermarkt it’s closer to double that. His 61 game Championship record is W21 D19 L21 - really very average - with a win % of 34.4. By your measure that actually makes him worse than Lambert, having had far longer and a huge budget, while Lambert had a negative budget and yet still signed our best Championship player, as well as Mowbray’s Mr. Professional. Link to post Share on other sites
Moderation Lead K-Hod 9606 Posted June 23, 2019 Moderation Lead Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, HowieFive0 said: "I'm talking about before they see the player actually play. It happens on here and you know it " ..Big Dog quote "I’m sure it does. People have different opinion, such is life." ..your answer . So ok to basically make it up about players before seen ..fair enough ..such is life . As long as we al know the rules .. I never said or suggested anything of the sort. I tried to be as neutral as possible and said people have different opinions. Link to post Share on other sites
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