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Just now, Paul Mani said:

Edit: Smallwood and Evans consigned to the history books by Christmas.

Would be great news if it happens. 

How long do their latest contracts run for though?. What a criminal waste of money that was, especially in Evans' case.

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Just now, Paul Mani said:

Bradley Johnson is done  

Club were putting feelers out last night asking about him, his character etc. Opinions were passed and they were told this morning that the deal is done. Only surprise is that it hasn’t been announced today.

Also they expect Buckley, Travis, Davenport and Butterworth to step this season. 

Edit: Smallwood and Evans consigned to the history books by Christmas.

Is that last part your opinion or something you've heard/read?

Interesting if so. I've not seen this area as being as much of a priority as others have (I'd rather just stop playing two DMs and strengthen the defence and get a striker with the budget), and my opinion has been either buy someone utterly class or very cheap but definitely a step up on everyone who isn't Travis. Hopefully this counts as the latter. Probably only get one good season out of him but that gives us time to see how the kids progress and what's needed. If he's up to it.

If there is a similar budget to it, we now have the vast bulk of it for a CB, striker and whatever the 'up to' 5th signing is.

Heard anything on the price? My guess was in the 300-500k range?

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Just now, roversfan99 said:

Wheres that from? Didn't Mowbray say nothing is imminent?

Argh, I really can’t say. They’re so touchy about this stuff now...was ‘done’ by this morning apparently. 

Im more excited by their belief in the young lads. They LOVE Buckley. “He’ll definitely play in the Premier League”

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Just now, Paul Mani said:

Bradley Johnson is done  

Club were putting feelers out last night asking about him, his character etc. Opinions were passed and they were told this morning that the deal is done. Only surprise is that it hasn’t been announced today.

Also they expect Buckley, Travis, Davenport and Butterworth to step this season. 

Edit: Smallwood and Evans consigned to the history books by Christmas.

I hope all that comes to pass, plus a CB or 2

Do "they" expect Ben "to step this season"?

Smallwood and Evans consigned to the history books by Christmas - how does that work when they are on wages?

 

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Just now, Paul Mani said:

Bradley Johnson is done  

Club were putting feelers out last night asking about him, his character etc. Opinions were passed and they were told this morning that the deal is done. Only surprise is that it hasn’t been announced today.

Also they expect Buckley, Travis, Davenport and Butterworth to step this season. 

Edit: Smallwood and Evans consigned to the history books by Christmas.

Seems strange to me. Surely if there were doubts about him or his character that would be looked at well before terms were offered and agreed?

If Mowbray doesn't fancy/rate Smallwood/Evans then they need consigning to the history books NOW, rather than 'by Christmas'. 

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Just now, bluebruce said:

Is that last part your opinion or something you've heard/read?

Interesting if so. I've not seen this area as being as much of a priority as others have (I'd rather just stop playing two DMs and strengthen the defence and get a striker with the budget), and my opinion has been either buy someone utterly class or very cheap but definitely a step up on everyone who isn't Travis. Hopefully this counts as the latter. Probably only get one good season out of him but that gives us time to see how the kids progress and what's needed. If he's up to it.

If there is a similar budget to it, we now have the vast bulk of it for a CB, striker and whatever the 'up to' 5th signing is.

Heard anything on the price? My guess was in the 300-500k range?

Heard nothing on the price. But I think the signs that none of us have picked up on is this ‘change’ in the way we play which basically excludes Smallwood and Evans. Focus is now on the young lads Iv mentioned to play on the half turn talinhbthe ball from centre halves.

Johnson seen as an upgraded version of Smallwood and Evans...

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Just now, JHRover said:

Seems strange to me. Surely if there were doubts about him or his character that would be looked at well before terms were offered and agreed?

If Mowbray doesn't fancy/rate Smallwood/Evans then they need consigning to the history books NOW, rather than 'by Christmas'. 

Exactly my question. Looks to have moved quickly once Lampard confirmed out and Cocu in (done yesterday).

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Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Would be great news if it happens. 

How long do their latest contracts run for though?. What a criminal waste of money that was, especially in Evans' case.

Not sure. 

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8 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Bradley Johnson is done  

Club were putting feelers out last night asking about him, his character etc. Opinions were passed and they were told this morning that the deal is done. Only surprise is that it hasn’t been announced today.

Also they expect Buckley, Travis, Davenport and Butterworth to step this season. 

Edit: Smallwood and Evans consigned to the history books by Christmas.

Not done just yet.

Expecting Johnson tomorrow, 2 others interested and also expect to have talks with them

Butterfield, offered to club among other clubs numerous times over summer.

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Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

I hope all that comes to pass, plus a CB or 2

Do "they" expect Ben "to step this season"?

Smallwood and Evans consigned to the history books by Christmas - how does that work when they are on wages?

 

Only spoke about the midfield off the back of Johnson

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Just now, alderson777 said:

Not done just yet.

Expecting Johnson tomorrow, 2 others interested and also expect to have talks with them

Butterfield, offered to club among other clubs numerous times over summer.

Pretty sure it is done based on how close this person is to the deal. The context of that convo was that if it wasn’t already done this morning then they might not have done it..if you get me? ?. But the fact that he’s not been announced today suggests you could be right...

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If that is true about Evans it's another baffling decision by Mowbray. Why give him a new deal until 2021? I don't disagree with getting rid of him or Smallwood just that he will have unnecessarily had an longer, improved deal.

And Mowbray eulogises about him in this piece.

https://www.irishfa.com/news/2018/december/northern-ireland-midfielder-corry-evans-signs-new-deal-at-blackburn-rovers

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15 minutes ago, arbitro said:

If that is true about Evans it's another baffling decision by Mowbray. Why give him a new deal until 2021? I don't disagree with getting rid of him or Smallwood just that he will have unnecessarily had an longer, improved deal.

And Mowbray eulogises about him in this piece.

https://www.irishfa.com/news/2018/december/northern-ireland-midfielder-corry-evans-signs-new-deal-at-blackburn-rovers

Maybe a longer deal is worth a slightly bigger transfer fee.

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Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Interesting in the LT that we haved 'moved on this week' from some targets. Also references patience 'in the corridors of power'.  

Would seem to give some credence to the recent posts about transfer plans being in chaos. 

I bet we've moved on from Sam Gallagher. 

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Just now, yellowsubmarine said:

Maybe a longer deal is worth a slightly bigger transfer fee.

Increased wages would eat up a chunk of what we could get for him. I think if we could get £500k for him it would be great.

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14 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Interesting in the LT that we haved 'moved on this week' from some targets. Also references patience 'in the corridors of power'.  

Would seem to give some credence to the recent posts about transfer plans being in chaos. 

A thinly veiled reference to J*B’s ITK tidbit.

Sounds like ’hysterical’ brfcs not too far away from the truth, again...

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4 minutes ago, yellowsubmarine said:

Maybe a longer deal is worth a slightly bigger transfer fee.

Can’t see anyone paying money for him, we’ll be lucky to let him go for free without having to contribute to his wages.

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Just now, RV Blue said:

Can’t see anyone paying money for him, we’ll be lucky to let him go for free without having to contribute to his wages.

I think there are teams who’d pay a fee for Corry Evans. International player with vast championship experience. 

I also don’t see a problem with him being in and around a squad with the likes of Travis, Buckley, Davenport breaking through. There’s no suggestion either that he got a pay rise. Often in these situations the club offers slightly lesser terms over a longer period to allow room for other wages. Evans at his age would have been the perfect candidate for that type of deal. 

Smallwood was rewarded with a new contract after promotion. Mowbray is loyal but his consistency around changing the way in which we play will begin to phase these guys out. They then have the option of hanging around or moving in.

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His age? He’s 28. Reaching his ‘peak’ (it’s Evans, but still).

He will want the cash, he’s not a 34 year old after a bit of security and a 2 year deal.

I’m pretty sure he will have had a rise.

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On 03/07/2019 at 21:31, neophox said:

Only a rumour at this moment in time.

He should of started phasing people out twelve months ago starting with gladwin, Samuel, hart and nuttall

Edit, dont no why it quoted neophobia

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8 hours ago, bboy said:

Sorry if covered but I see Duffy is being lined as a maguire replacement if United sign him. Around 30m. Wonder if we included any clauses? 

God almighty. I never thought he was that good anyway. "A replacement for Maguire"----bloody joke. Manu losing its marbles.

What did we get ----£2m? Didn't do a good job there did we?

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Just now, 47er said:

But where have we moved to?

Maybe Assombalonga? Would tie in to some of the stuff we’ve been hearing on here about Venkys pushing the expenditure / chaos etc. Links nicely with the LT article about moving on and there was a poster in here who mentioned Assombalonga...hope that’s the case. Would be a huge statement imo 

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Just now, Oldgregg86 said:

He should of started phasing people out twelve months ago starting with gladwin, Samuel, hart and nuttall

Edit, dont no why it quoted neophobia

My phone obviously having a mad one

just looked up neophobia out of interest and it’s a fear of anything  new and unfamiliar (cough) Tony.

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