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Just now, unsall said:

Bit daft, do you think so,I’m talking to folk on this forum, they don’t seem to appreciate bringing guys through,only spending millions. NOT a daft comment thank you.

 Extremely daft.

Who doesn’t appreciate it? This board is always clamouring for academy lads to be played.

From Travis to Buckley to Butterworth and on it goes.

 

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Just now, philipl said:

I was one of those most unhappy about Raya going but well over half the message board are asserting Raya cost us at least ten goals and several points last season, convinced he disrupted the defence through poor communication, made rubbish decisions and flapped at every cross. In short, they were insistent he be shipped out and they got their wishes fulfilled. 

Not remotely true that ‘well over half the board’ wanted him shipped out.

He’s gone and that’s that, but don’t re-write history.

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Just now, philipl said:

I was one of those most unhappy about Raya going but well over half the message board are asserting Raya cost us at least ten goals and several points last season, convinced he disrupted the defence through poor communication, made rubbish decisions and flapped at every cross. In short, they were insistent he be shipped out and they got their wishes fulfilled. 

And lots who wanted him out suggested replacements who they felt were far better. On the face of it Mowbray didn't seem to concerned about him going and he dropped him towards the end of the season.

Isn't that how you improve by bringing in better players than you already have.

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35 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Last season, there were eight players from the Coyle era who started at least 23 league games (half a season) or more:

Raya, Nyambe, Mulgrew, Lenihan, Williams, Bennett, Evans and Graham (Mulgrew, Williams & Graham being Coyle permanant signings).

Add to that list Gallagher who Coyle brought in on loan and who now Mowbray has just splashed £5million.

I would also point out that the plethora of Aacademy talent eg Travis, Butterwoth, Buckley, Magloire etc etc was all here when Mowbray arrived and has been developed by Johnno.  

Perhaps Coyle wasn't quite the 'donut' you think.

Coyle was that and more. He failed miserably with the players you listed.  

Mowbray may not be Klopp or Guardiola but he's a far cry from Coyle - a man who should never get another job in football.

 

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Just now, Mattyblue said:

Not remotely true that ‘well over half the board’ wanted him shipped out.

He’s gone and that’s that, but don’t re-write history.

read that thread, even when he was sold, and that is nothing compare with the stick he was given during the second half of last season on brfcs.com

 

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Just now, arbitro said:

And lots who wanted him out suggested replacements who they felt were far better. On the face of it Mowbray didn't seem to concerned about him going and he dropped him towards the end of the season.

Isn't that how you improve by bringing in better players than you already have.

Agreed.

I am unconvinced by the two keepers we are rumoured to be getting but let's see what transpires.

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Just now, philipl said:

read that thread, even when he was sold, and that is nothing compare with the stick he was given during the second half of last season on brfcs.com

 

I’m talking about last season. Of course he got stick he was making errors. 

Many posters wanted him to have competition, a better GK coach, not to just flog him.

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Some Burnley fan somewhere is generating some rumours and is sat back in absolute stitches at folk losing their minds on here over daft rumours

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1 hour ago, Mercer said:

Nail on head IMO>

Also, can you see the likes of Hart, Carson and Ruddy wanting to come to Rovers with the kid Benson as goalkeeper coach!  Think it's laughable.

Here we go. The kid Benson. I don't understand the derogatory term against him at all. He's a grown man. 

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Let’s be real coyle was and is a tw@t and nearly ruined us there can be no further argument on that point.

As good as Smallwood was in L1 he is out of his depth now there are better players in the squad he has been usurped by the youngsters who appear to be grabbing their chances a bit like a young Johnson did when he was a young lad. Evans should follow Nuttall as well should go on loan. It’s time to trim the squad down to 25/27 players and get them playing attacking football from the off. Like some one has mentioned there are teams much worse off than us in this league even the relegated teams seem to be on a par with the established top 6 teams. Rovers have a real chance to make an impact from the off.

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I don't see how it can go from, "we'll hope to have two coming in tomorrow", to now Sharpe saying, "hopefully we'll know more next week. 

Mowbray keeps saying things and promising things he shouldn't. Started at that meeting at Ewood when he said "new defenders are coming" and we've yet to sign a single one.

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3 minutes ago, speeeeeeedie said:

Coyle was that and more. He failed miserably with the players you listed.  

Mowbray may not be Klopp or Guardiola but he's a far cry from Coyle - a man who should never get another job in football.

 

I'm sorry Mercer, but you don't half spout nonsense....

Coyle was an absolute joke, both in how he set us up to play and his lieing media interviews. 

That idiot is a close second to Steve Keen when it comes to awful managers. 

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Just now, 1864roverite said:

Let’s be real coyle was and is a tw@t and nearly ruined us there can be no further argument on that point.

As good as Smallwood was in L1 he is out of his depth now there are better players in the squad he has been usurped by the youngsters who appear to be grabbing their chances a bit like a young Johnson did when he was a young lad. Evans should follow Nuttall as well should go on loan. It’s time to trim the squad down to 25/27 players and get them playing attacking football from the off. Like some one has mentioned there are teams much worse off than us in this league even the relegated teams seem to be on a par with the established top 6 teams. Rovers have a real chance to make an impact from the off.

If we play the quality we have i honestly think we could challenge top 6. Our problem is our Manager really can't seem to start these players. This is his last chance for me to start well - if not then i'd want mowbray out by xmas.

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Just now, JoeHarvey said:

I don't see how it can go from, "we'll hope to have two coming in tomorrow", to now Sharpe saying, "hopefully we'll know more next week. 

Mowbray keeps saying things and promising things he shouldn't. Started at that meeting at Ewood when he said "new defenders are coming" and we've yet to sign a single one.

This happens all the time.

I cant work out if Mowbray just comes out with stuff he thinks people want to hear whenever a microphone is stuck in front of him or whether he genuinely expects what he says to happen but things keep on moving and changing.

There's certainly very little consistency in what he comes out with and it is understandable why people are frustrated and disappointed with it. 

Whether it is budgets, calibre of player, positions, timings - Mowbray's comments to me seem to be all over the place. Maybe it's some cunning plan to confuse the competition or maybe we are all over the place on the whim of crackpots in India.

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Just now, BankEnd Rover said:

If we play the quality we have i honestly think we could challenge top 6. Our problem is our Manager really can't seem to start these players. This is his last chance for me to start well - if not then i'd want mowbray out by xmas.

Not without serious reinforcements to that defensive unit. I foresee more thrashings away from home.

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1 hour ago, Mercer said:

Mowbray's brief was to keep us that season.  He told us that at Blues back in Feb.  He failed - full stop. 

taking lessons from Boris J on how not to answer the question ? 

I agree with you, Mowbray failed in his first season target, - he would probably admit that much himself -

Your original assertion is that Rovers are no better off now than when he arrived.  

 in Feb 2107, when Mowbray arrived, we were 23rd in the Championship table, that's second bottom,

the team as follows

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Subs - Emnes, Feeney, Wes Brown, Conway, Tomlinson, Raya, Nyambe.

My recollections were of a club with little purpose and direction, potentially headed for oblivion and with no semblance of anyone in the management structure with the gumption to recognise that fact, or plan to reverse it.  There will be a point where Mowbray will have taken Rovers as far as he can in the club's current form,  I don't believe it has yet been reached, but I do believe that Mowbray will know himself and its just a likely he will walk rather someone needing to fire him - there's been a fair few manager's through our doors in recent years of which that certainly couldn't be said.  

Like many, I'm baffled why the defence hasn't yet been bolstered, and in the lack of the goalkeeper of note arriving, but worse off than when Mowbray arrived?? No, Nay, Never.......

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4 minutes ago, JoeHarvey said:

I don't see how it can go from, "we'll hope to have two coming in tomorrow", to now Sharpe saying, "hopefully we'll know more next week. 

Mowbray keeps saying things and promising things he shouldn't. Started at that meeting at Ewood when he said "new defenders are coming" and we've yet to sign a single one.

To be fair I think Sharpe said that before Mowbray said 2 will be coming today. But still it doesnt look like 2 will be signing today unless the fax machine is broke again and someone manages to fix it quick

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Just now, JHRover said:

This happens all the time.

I cant work out if Mowbray just comes out with stuff he thinks people want to hear whenever a microphone is stuck in front of him or whether he genuinely expects what he says to happen but things keep on moving and changing.

There's certainly very little consistency in what he comes out with and it is understandable why people are frustrated and disappointed with it. 

Whether it is budgets, calibre of player, positions, timings - Mowbray's comments to me seem to be all over the place. Maybe it's some cunning plan to confuse the competition or maybe we are all over the place on the whim of crackpots in India.

Scouting my arse..!

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4 hours ago, Biz said:

 

scattergun contracts eh!

E? That one isn't but it doesn't wipe out the daft decisions you have alluded to. In truth any manager who didn't tie up Travis long-term is an idiot.

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