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Just now, Tom said:

Yes the window closes on the 8th but (and I have no stats to back this up just my view) Mowbray tends to be slow to put players into the team, if we sign a defender on the last day we may not actually see them as part of the team until September or so, by which point a lot of points could have been lost 

By that I take it you mean September 2020 rather than 2019.

Just ask Harry Chapman.

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Just now, bluebruce said:

Stuart does sometimes go as infuriatingly extreme as BDS, the other way. But tbf, I've absolutely seen the process he described play out in previous windows.

Some people will criticise the club or the manager no matter what.

Some people will defend and praise the club or the manager no matter what.

 

That's true enough, I think TM and co deserve criticism sometimes personally I don't like preemptive general criticisms of the message board, but I'm just adding to the moans.

The defence may be weaker at the moment but I still think the team is stronger.

I do think that we will sign at least one defender and just because it's late in the window doesn't mean he won't be good.

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2 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

Sid the long-serving scout is finding it hard in the digital age.

He's asked for an upgrade on his company Sierra. 

And we must have the only scouts in England with no passports 

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2 hours ago, Ricky said:

But will you get worried Chaddy? Or will you just accept it and give a politicians answer again. I hope you would be concerned if we haven’t strengthened a weak back line which showed last season that it isn’t good enough. 

Im pleased that you are back by the way. A forum needs a mix of people and I’m pleased that you are posting again so please don’t take this as criticism. It’s more a plea for you to actually be frustrated if we don’t strengthen the back line.

We will have a defender or 2(hopefully) by that deadline. 

we need a new defender next to Lenihan to be 1st choice. Ive said who I prefer to sign. I couldnt comment on foriegn players as I dont watch any now

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I think the frustration (for me at least) is that the majority of our business so far has been decent.

However it will be undone by failing to sign the defender we need.

Looks like we've had targets and missed out, which is a shame. Sounds like we are working towards getting some in. So let's hope we get these deals over the line.

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Just now, chaddyrovers said:

We will.a defender or 2(hopefully) by that deadline. 

we need a new defender next to Lenihan to be 1st choice. Ive said who I prefer to sign. I couldnt comment on foriegn players as I dont watch any now

I think we definitely need one but agree we could do with two ideally. It’s a shame the players will have to come in with no pre season games to get up to speed. Every point is priceless in the championship and we can’t afford to drop points while players get used to playing together.

 

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2 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

It’s just common sense lads. The window closes on August 8th. To judge it before then is just odd. If we don’t get the defenders in then we’ve failed. End of.

Three points are available as of August 3rd. You would like to think any player has 7 days to integrate into the squad, especially if overseas.

That means... oh, wait a minute.

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Just now, Bbrovers2288 said:

Swap with Ipswich for that keeper for nuttall , seems like a win- win 

Not for us, Bialkowski is a very poor keeper - hence Milwall being the only team interested. 

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Just now, J*B said:

Three points are available as of August 3rd. You would like to think any player has 7 days to integrate into the squad, especially if overseas.

That means... oh, wait a minute.

Yep. 

Not just a criticism of us but I've never understood why Clubs leave a large proportion of their business until the last few days of the window.

If Clubs persist in leaving it to the last minute the authorities might as well reduce the transfer window to a month like January. 

But you could just imagine the outcry from the Clubs were that to happen

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Just now, DE. said:

Not for us, Bialkowski is a very poor keeper - hence Milwall being the only team interested. 

Ipswich keeper with a foreign sounding name - as European as Mowbray and his scouts can get !!!

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Just now, DE. said:

Not for us, Bialkowski is a very poor keeper - hence Milwall being the only team interested. 

And nuttall is a very poor striker, just spreads our squad a little. Need to cut our strikers and mids down 

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Just now, DE. said:

Not for us, Bialkowski is a very poor keeper - hence Milwall being the only team interested. 

He is not very poor. Been one of the best keeper in Championship for years. Didn't reach his best last season but was player of the year for Ipswich 3 season in a row before that. 

Ipswich has turned down bids of 2-3 mill before last season. Would be a decent alternative to Walton. Problem is I can't see him coming as number 2.

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Just now, briansol said:

He is not very poor. Been one of the best keeper in Championship for years. Didn't reach his best last season but was player of the year for Ipswich 3 season in a row before that. 

Ipswich has turned down bids of 2-3 mill before last season. Would be a decent alternative to Walton. Problem is I can't see him coming as number 2.

Ipswich fans aren't bothered about losing him, which should tell you enough. He might have been a good keeper in the past (although still made plenty of mistakes) but he isn't now. If he was that good he'd have much more interest. Ipswich aren't asking much for him - they've already brought in a keeper to replace him. They just want him gone.

For me he wouldn't be a capable no2 as I wouldn't be confident with him between the sticks. But you are right in that I doubt he'd want to come here as a backup keeper, and he wouldn't be asking for the type of wage a backup keeper would be making anyway. Probably why it's definitely a no go. 

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1 hour ago, Exiled in Toronto said:

If the blockage is one of our football people, City’s people or the players people, I agree. If the blockage is the ownership, then that’s a different kettle of fish as moving onto the next target could well have exactly the same issue. Plus telling your owners to stuff it because they are taking too long could well introduce new logjams.

I would imagine getting Mowbray//Waggot/Venkys aligned on anything isn’t as easy as it’s made out on here.

He got them aligned for the forward and midfielders we dont need, has he now done his money or just simply mismanaged the entire window ??

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40 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

And nuttall is a very poor striker, just spreads our squad a little. Need to cut our strikers and mids down 

He is limited but the one thing with him he knows where the net is. He may not do the fancy stuff but has a poacher he is in the right place at the right time consistently and that can’t be trained

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1 hour ago, DE. said:

Not for us, Bialkowski is a very poor keeper - hence Milwall being the only team interested. 

Hes an excellent keeper at this level. Presume youve never seen him play mate? Hes a very good keeper.

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58 minutes ago, DE. said:

Ipswich fans aren't bothered about losing him, which should tell you enough. He might have been a good keeper in the past (although still made plenty of mistakes) but he isn't now. If he was that good he'd have much more interest. Ipswich aren't asking much for him - they've already brought in a keeper to replace him. They just want him gone.

For me he wouldn't be a capable no2 as I wouldn't be confident with him between the sticks. But you are right in that I doubt he'd want to come here as a backup keeper, and he wouldn't be asking for the type of wage a backup keeper would be making anyway. Probably why it's definitely a no go. 

He was excellent until last season when he picked up a bad injury, when back ipswich were already down, relegation does that to fans, they taint their image of players after a relegation. 

Ipswich are in league one with no money, they cant ask for much, and will want a big earner off of their books, similar to us replacing robinson with frigging jake kean after relegation.

 

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Just now, Bbrovers2288 said:

No offence mate but bog off, I have my own mind. 

Shunted out at city, Aberdeen, failed to light up loan stints at Dumbarton and Stranraer. He has a poor touch, can’t run with the ball, can’t hold up, not seem him show anything in the air. He can bundle the odd goal in but he will never amount to more than a league one clogger. Absolutely no way will he ever be good enough for us. Blackpool is about his level and he will carve a decent journeyman footballer in the lower leagues. But don’t ever say I’m just following the crowd again thanks 

Totally agree, very poor footballer.

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It's a peculiarity that we have added very few defenders to our squad since Mowbray has been manager. In fact a quick look shows we have made a total of 31 permanent signings in that time and only 6 of them have been defenders. Of the six, three have been and gone since and the only one to make a significant number of appearances for the first team is Amari'i Bell. Barring Bell and converting Bennett to a right-back as it stands our main defensive options are exactly the same as they were three seasons ago when we started that ill-fated season under Coyle minus old hands Brown, Greer and Ward padding out the squad we now have more options from the youth team to call upon as back-up at the moment.

Perhaps the reluctance to strengthen is due to an unwavering faith Tony has in the likes of Lenihan, Mulgrew, Williams and Nyambe (all four of whom are full internationals I might add). The common agenda on here is that there's doubts over the overall quality of these players and that we need to bring in better quality ones. In fact the signings we've made so far in defence suggests maybe he just doesn't see it that way. In the past the likes of Paul Downing, Caddis and Rodwell have all been brought in to booster the squad rather than to be first choice options, I could be wrong but it seems to me that any defensive signing we make this window would likely fall in this category as well.

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28 minutes ago, Pepsimaxblack said:

Disagree strongly with this, Nuttall is a goal scorer, you just seem to be following the popular opinion that clueless rovers fans seem to take. xx

Imagine calling other Rovers fans "clueless" for thinking a player like Nuttall is poor. Based on his first team performances there's nothing to suggest otherwise. 

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I see McBurnie is going for 20 million this summer? I think I was in a very small minority (of about 1) in wanting him last summer. Would've been cheaper than big bad project signing Ben and yielded an instant profit. 

I'm bloody good me.

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20 minutes ago, philipl said:

On Tosin, deal terms with City were agreed nearly two weeks ago. There are hints of personal/ agent/ parental issues. 

Mental. A loan deal should be relatively straight forward one would imagine. 

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