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4 hours ago, Fraserkirky said:

Assuming Tosin and Lenihan start at CB when we are settled down, with Mulgrew, Nyambe, Magloire and Williams all as back ups. Not sure we need another, unless we switch to three at the back, which Mowbray has threatened at times. JRC will win the RB spot at some point this season, he is sensational.

Its fair point Fraserkirky, but if we couod add a Cooper or Worrall it would improve the quality at centre back position. 

That could be the very reason why we never move for right back cos of JRC..

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1 hour ago, Gary C said:

We do have the makings of a good side.

We could have said that several times over the last few years but, somehow, the job is never completed.

This time round our best chance lies with our outstanding youth players. If more of them are unleashed as TM's regulars prove not up to it then we might do something!

 

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22 hours ago, Stuart said:

There only being a few days from signing until the first game is Mowbray’s fault, not mine, but it can be done.

Do we know it was "Mowbray's fault" that the deal took so long? Or is it just another of those assumptions that get played out as fact to beat him with?

It seems to me that Tosin was identified quite early in the window but that, for unknown (to us) reasons, the deal took far longer to complete than was anticipated. Wasn't it said on here by an ITKer (Bbrovers?) that Mowbray was tearing his hair out at the length of time this deal was taking? That suggests to me a delay on the player / City / agent's side rather than ours.

If it was TM or the club driving a harder bargain out of City, I don't mind that one bit as I'd rather the club was not fleeced.

The other alternative is that it was a Venkys-inspired delay, which could never be ruled out even for a relatively modest loan deal... but hardly "Mowbray's fault".

Last minute deals is just a symptom of having a time-limited window; it's the same with any negotiation process. Far bigger deals (good and bad) will be done by other clubs far later in the day than this. Hell, Swansea sold McBurnie yesterday for £20m; imagine that was us selling Dack, Lenihan or Travis, that would keep the mods busy! 

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I don't buy the easy three points opinion expressed by some posters. I think Charlton will be organised, sit in and play on the break. If they do I think Mowbray will combat this by not committing too many players forward. If this is the case I think the game could well be decided by set pieces.

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Just now, arbitro said:

I don't buy the easy three points opinion expressed by some posters. I think Charlton will be organised, sit in and play on the break. If they do I think Mowbray will combat this by not committing too many players forward. If this is the case I think the game could well be decided by set pieces.

I do believe we will win. Let's hope our players are up for it from the start. Or a difficult afternoon beckons

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Just now, arbitro said:

I don't buy the easy three points opinion expressed by some posters. I think Charlton will be organised, sit in and play on the break. If they do I think Mowbray will combat this by not committing too many players forward. If this is the case I think the game could well be decided by set pieces.

Good point. I think we are better equipped for them too now - taller and more basic GK, 6.5 centre half and Sam Gallagher scores quite a few headers for us last time too.

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13 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I meant Mears, but hold my hands up that my slip of the tongue does make me look rather stupid.

I obviously saw him in person when he was excellent at Ewood, and of course in the return fixture and whenever they were on tv but it is pretty common knowledge that he is a very good Championship defender so I was just surprised you hadnt heard of him, more than knowing him inside out.

My point of contention was more that theres no evidence that Pep neecessarily wants him around, big teams loan players out with very few coming back, most are sold on.

I stand by my comments about Tosin playing right back for half a season as first choice due to squad imbalance and chronic lack of alternatives. I have also said that although West Brom fans did not seem impressed, and I wasnt particularly especially at Ewood when he was taken off, I hope this is due to being forced to play out of position.

Hopefully man. We could do with him being a revelation there. If he is the mobile ball playing centre half pep hints at him being, that would be pretty sweet. 

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Just now, arbitro said:

I don't buy the easy three points opinion expressed by some posters. I think Charlton will be organised, sit in and play on the break. If they do I think Mowbray will combat this by not committing too many players forward. If this is the case I think the game could well be decided by set pieces.

It's true that in this league there are no easy games and it is unpredictable in a great way generally but we have a much better squad than Charlton and there have to be some teams we expect to beat.

I would have said that at the beginning of the window my no. 1 priority was the best centre back possible and we haven't done that but TM and co must think Ada is going to be pretty darn good as it seems likely that he will be starting with Lenihan most of the season.

What would we do with another CB and how are we going to keep him happy?  We will have Lenihan, Ada, Williams (I think he's a poor left back but decent CB) and Mulgrew that's enough in numbers.  I would have liked to see Mulgrew moved on but he's still here, is he gonna be happy to be 5th choice?

I think you always want top quality players so I'd be very happy if we signed Cooper or Tuanzebe but Ada hasn't come here to sit on the bench.  If we sign another CB and he's not good enough to start who is going to be happy with that. 

I don't really want any more midfielders or attackers unless they are amazing as we have some good ones and some excellent prospects.

So other than a backup goalie (I really don't think Leutwiler is good enough, really poor on low shots) I don't want any more squad players.

Excellent full backs would be lovely though. 

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1 hour ago, 47er said:

We could have said that several times over the last few years but, somehow, the job is never completed.

This time round our best chance lies with our outstanding youth players. If more of them are unleashed as TM's regulars prove not up to it then we might do something!

 

I think management choice is much to blame for that.  We had the squad under Bowyer and we'd had the chance to sign Neil Warnock. We'd have been right up there under him.

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29 minutes ago, Pedro said:

I think management choice is much to blame for that.  We had the squad under Bowyer and we'd had the chance to sign Neil Warnock. We'd have been right up there under him.

Yep, after Kean Venky's have repeatedly gone for the cheap, easy option and it has cost us. In fact I'd wager we've lost more financially than we would have if we'd hired a decent, proven manager, especially considering our relegation to League 1 in 16/17. Lambert is the exception to the rule but he wasn't around for very long. I get the feeling it might have been the same with Warnock tbh, but I doubt we would have been relegated if he had been at the helm during the 16/17 season. 

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4 minutes ago, CheshireRover said:

One part has happened...

Fuck off Mowbray... we will never reach the potential we can with him bumbling around with Bennett at RB and Rothwell not on the pitch.

Hope he comes on with 30 to go in a 0-0 and drags us to the 3 points.

Rothwell really needs a song.

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If i was a wise old manager then after seeing my defence often conceded weak goals over the course of nearly 3 seasons and i had been granted a good budget i decide it's time for a revamp.  I'd plan ahead and allocate a good lump if not all the budget to try and significantly improve it and i'd tell the fans confidently 'Don't worry defenders are coming'

Then i'd go out and ###### sign some half decent ones.  If i didn't i'd expect to have the same problems and i'd be worried i'd be through the door before Christmas.

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Just now, tomphil said:

If i was a wise old manager then after seeing my defence often conceded weak goals over the course of nearly 3 seasons and i had been granted a good budget i decide it's time for a revamp.  I'd plan ahead and allocate a good lump if not all the budget to try and significantly improve it and i'd tell the fans confidently 'Don't worry defenders are coming'

Then i'd go out and ###### sign some half decent ones.  If i didn't i'd expect to have the same problems and i'd be worried i'd be through the door before Christmas.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37502741

He will never learn.

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