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1 minute ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I wouldnt fancy us getting a result if pressure was really on. 

 

Exactly! Half of the team are out of contract and the other half go back to their clubs.

Why would they give a toss?

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2 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Exactly! Half of the team are out of contract and the other half go back to their clubs.

Why would they give a toss?

And those that could play who have reason to care, are out on loan 

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Mowbray manages and spins his tombola to the law of averages.  

'I'll keep doing this and it'll come off sooner or later'

'Surely we'll win a game or two soon we're only losing one nil'

Never ever have a night at the casino with this mon but if he invites you for a game of cards grab it with both hands, you'll fleece him.

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2 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

True, but lose the next two and other results go against us and things could look far more perilous. I wouldnt fancy us getting a result if pressure was really on. 

 

The only slight comfort in our present situation is that all of the teams below us are down there because they can't put together a decent string of results. It's possible one or two will do, as tends to happen towards the end of the season, but 7 out of the 9 below us? It isn't impossible but we would have to lose practically every one of our remaining games. Knowing our luck rather than scrape to safety we'll end up winning every remaining game, meaning absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things but giving TM a boost going into the summer and ensuring he's in situ for another dreary campaign next season.

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22 minutes ago, DE. said:

The only slight comfort in our present situation is that all of the teams below us are down there because they can't put together a decent string of results. It's possible one or two will do, as tends to happen towards the end of the season, but 7 out of the 9 below us? It isn't impossible but we would have to lose practically every one of our remaining games. Knowing our luck rather than scrape to safety we'll end up winning every remaining game, meaning absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things but giving TM a boost going into the summer and ensuring he's in situ for another dreary campaign next season.

Indeed, that would be very unsatisfactory. I just have a bad feeling we could end up in an unprecedented last day relegation. This is what following Rovers and Ireland will do to a man 🤣

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7 minutes ago, tomphil said:

No problem with people wanting to show their support for him but the flag thing was a club lead vomit inducing gimmick. Appearing for the cameras to wave towards India, it's a hark back to the shagnew crowd figure dressing up to protect certain people.

Of course the usual suspects took to social media and a few on here defending it. Even Dalglish and Souness didn't get that treatment.

Waggot OUT !

When we're allowed back in and the cameras are on the flag, someone should spark a match.

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44 minutes ago, Ulrich said:

When we're allowed back in and the cameras are on the flag, someone should spark a match.

They wave this huge flag of his boat race like he's some sort of Shankly style great leader or figurehead. Then he comes out and hides slumped way up in the seats as far from the touchline he can get without going into the stands.

You really couldn't make it up.

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3 minutes ago, tomphil said:

They wave this huge flag of his boat race like he's some sort of Shankly style great leader or figurehead. Then he comes out and hides slumped way up in the seats as far from the touchline he can get without going into the stands.

You really couldn't make it up.

As with everything these days, it is all propaganda and bullshit.  Something rovers have become very reliant upon. I find it absolutely repulsive that TM who has achieved the square route of bugger all at rovers is placed in a position of supposed worship. I'd wave a flag of Jack first and foremost but we cannot have our benevolent owners looking 2nd best.

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The one positive I'm going to take from Mowbray's performance this season is the exposure of Waggott. As a club we needed a CEO that the fans can trust to make the tough decisions, friendships aside, for the good of the team. He isn't the man and the sooner both are gone the better.

The issue we have is that both tick all of the boxes for our inept owners and one plans to make them a significant amount of money. Unfortunately I think we'll be protesting at Ewood again soon enough...

Can anyone tell me another club on the planet where the manager essentially hired his CEO? There may be one but it seems extremely unusual to me (??), and if there is I'd like to know how that turned out.

It's been a frustrating season but any fan who thought Mowbray was a good manager, even at the end of last season, or thinks that the recent form is not his fault, really does need a reality check.

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5 hours ago, Ghost7 said:

The one positive I'm going to take from Mowbray's performance this season is the exposure of Waggott. As a club we needed a CEO that the fans can trust to make the tough decisions, friendships aside, for the good of the team. He isn't the man and the sooner both are gone the better.

The issue we have is that both tick all of the boxes for our inept owners and one plans to make them a significant amount of money. Unfortunately I think we'll be protesting at Ewood again soon enough...

Can anyone tell me another club on the planet where the manager essentially hired his CEO? There may be one but it seems extremely unusual to me (??), and if there is I'd like to know how that turned out.

It's been a frustrating season but any fan who thought Mowbray was a good manager, even at the end of last season, or thinks that the recent form is not his fault, really does need a reality check.

The conflict of interest is so basic isn't it?1

I flagged it up when it was first being mooted that Waggott was to be appointed but results on the pitch (in League 1) had picked up somewhat so no-one seemed unduly bothered at the time as the **** hadn't hit the fan at that point.

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10 hours ago, JHRover said:

I'll never forget Waggott in an early interview of his and there was talk about budgets and structures and he mentioned needing the right structure to ensure the club could keep people like Tony Mowbray here and not lose them. Incredible comments for a CEO to make but those were in the days after promotion when things were ticking over quite nicely.

The thing that struck me more was recently when things weren't ticking over quite as nicely and Waggott went out of his way to publicly make excuses for Mowbray due to Covid.

What sort of Chairman or CEO does that? 

A proper unbiased CEO would simply have said that results simply weren't good enough and left it at that leaving the incumbent manager in no doubt he had to pull his socks up or else.

Mind you, what we didn't know at that point was that there are training grounds to be sold and housing developments to be built.

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I suspect that when Mowbray went to Pune, post relegation, and got himself a new contract on the back of the relegation, the early seeds were sown re the STC sale and the need to recruit Maggott and Penus to see it through.

Back then Mowbray was quite publicly anti-Academy.

Nothing to do with football got him this lifetime gig.

The Vs have once again NOT been conned.

They head the scam.

Mowbray and the other scumbags will all be here next season, regardless of what happens in the remainder of this season, to continue in their real job.

May they all rot in the Hell that awaits them.

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14 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

I suspect that when Mowbray went to Pune, post relegation, and got himself a new contract on the back of the relegation, the early seeds were sown re the STC sale and the need to recruit Maggott and Penus to see it through.

Back then Mowbray was quite publicly anti-Academy.

Nothing to do with football got him this lifetime gig.

The Vs have once again NOT been conned.

They head the scam.

Mowbray and the other scumbags will all be here next season, regardless of what happens in the remainder of this season, to continue in their real job.

May they all rot in the Hell that awaits them.

It wouldn't surprise me if a plan B was pitched to them to raise funds at that time.  And Tony just happened to know the right people for that plan but Vs tipped up a few quid and we got back up.

Covid however and the Dack sale being scuppered by injury, along with the phone not ringing for Armstrong with enough 00's has firmly put it back in the pipeline.

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34 minutes ago, windymiller7 said:

Does anyone remember the days when supporting Rovers was all about the football? Pure & simple, football. The guys in charge had the best interests of the club at heart & even when we were skint, they always tried to make the best decisions for Blackburn Rovers Football Club.

I do. As do many others on here but there is a whole generation of fans who don't. All those in their late teens/early 20s know nothing else than this shitshow & probably think it's normal! Consider that for a moment. 

It's no wonder they get all OTT on FB & the like after every win. It's frightening!

They were the Good Old Days, when I knew who the manager was but rarely paid attention to who was on the Board. Unless the manager was especially shit - it did happen, even then.

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It's not just Sky, is it? Lazy all round. You do have to admire how Tony has managed to retain his reputation though, regardless of results!

Reporter on radio 5 just asked if his time is up, and his response was that Rovers fans still remember the good times, and therefore lack patience for incremental progress.

Suppose it goes to show how out of touch with reality the whole analysis/punditry industry is but they can get away with it, as it only really stands out as blatant nonsense when it's your club.

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40 minutes ago, windymiller7 said:

Does anyone remember the days when supporting Rovers was all about the football? Pure & simple, football. The guys in charge had the best interests of the club at heart & even when we were skint, they always tried to make the best decisions for Blackburn Rovers Football Club.

I do. As do many others on here but there is a whole generation of fans who don't. All those in their late teens/early 20s know nothing else than this shitshow & probably think it's normal! Consider that for a moment. 

It's no wonder they get all OTT on FB & the like after every win. It's frightening!

Yes, I miss those days. There was a genuine buzz and excitement about games before this lot rocked up in 2010. I've mentioned previously how I never used to think about John Williams, Tom Finn etc back in the 2000s as they did a great job in running the club. No manager was unsackable, results mattered and we knew that the board would act if things were going wrong. There was a calm about the club back then, so it was all about the football.

I was so into the games that I would listen to the entire Radio Rovers broadcast for midweek games when I couldn't get to Ewood. It was from 4 till 11pm! but I loved it. I didn't bother doing that even once post November 2010. Not surprised that they canned it a few years ago. They've ruined everything else about the club, so why not add another thing to the list.

These tossers have bought nothing but chaos and distress to the club ever since they set foot in the place. Seeing what they have reduced the club to and the chancers they have allowed in infuriates me. It angers us older fans more as we know how far the club has fallen and that it's all down to the stupidity and neglect of the owners.

I feel for the younger fans who have only ever known this horror show. The L1 promotion is the best thing they have seen Rovers do, so maybe that's why they won't hear anything against Mowbray and constantly refer to Bolton and Wigan when the owners are brought up.

Something I always tell them (and myself) is that this isn't the real Rovers you are watching. The real Rovers will be back when these owners do one. The wait goes on, but we gotta keep the hope alive.

 

 

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23 hours ago, tomphil said:

Mowbray manages and spins his tombola to the law of averages.  

'I'll keep doing this and it'll come off sooner or later'

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The tombola coming off it's hinges, I assume? 

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