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I’m sorry Paul, but it really has bewildered me that running Blackburn Rovers sensibly has been made to look as arduous as sewing in sparring mitts, but that is how it has been presented throughout th

I certainly don't claim to be 'ITK' at all but shortly after the final whistle yesterday I received a text from someone extremely close to the club - not the playing or coaching side - who doesn't nor

The trouble is, this is a well-trodden route in the Copybook of Tony Mowbray. A week back, prior to Cardiff and following the utterly woeful and woebegone showings against Wigan and Barnsley, we neede

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I certainly don't claim to be 'ITK' at all but shortly after the final whistle yesterday I received a text from someone extremely close to the club - not the playing side - who doesn't normally gossip (he can't afford to, it would cost him his job) who, unsolicited, told me that Waggott had been instructed to act. All this talk of being sacked today and announced at 3pm didn't come from me, I didn't hear any specifics at all.

However, I am very confident that something is happening in relation to the manager, but people posting "Its not happening is it?" every 5 minutes on here doesn't help alleviate the general twitchiness that fans are feeling just now.

Was it wrong of me to share that info? Maybe. But that's partly what I thought these message boards were designed for.

 

Thanks for the context. No criticism from me. I'd rather hear it than not, I was just pointing out that it wasn't just Mercer who was hearing rumours of Mowbray's departure.  

 

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4 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

I certainly don't claim to be 'ITK' at all but shortly after the final whistle yesterday I received a text from someone extremely close to the club - not the playing side - who doesn't normally gossip (he can't afford to, it would cost him his job) who, unsolicited, told me that Waggott had been instructed to act. All this talk of being sacked today and announced at 3pm didn't come from me, I didn't hear any specifics at all.

However, I am very confident that something is happening in relation to the manager, but people posting "Its not happening is it?" every 5 minutes on here doesn't help alleviate the general twitchiness that fans are feeling just now.

Was it wrong of me to share that info? Maybe. But that's partly what I thought these message boards were designed for.

 

It might be they want a replacement lined up similar to Bowyer and Coyle dismissals before they move.

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1 minute ago, phili said:

It might be they want a replacement lined up similar to Bowyer and Coyle dismissals before they move.

Maybe the replacement has already been lined up for the summer and they are trying to get him in now. 

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7 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

I certainly don't claim to be 'ITK' at all but shortly after the final whistle yesterday I received a text from someone extremely close to the club - not the playing side - who doesn't normally gossip (he can't afford to, it would cost him his job) who, unsolicited, told me that Waggott had been instructed to act. All this talk of being sacked today and announced at 3pm didn't come from me, I didn't hear any specifics at all.

However, I am very confident that something is happening in relation to the manager, but people posting "Its not happening is it?" every 5 minutes on here doesn't help alleviate the general twitchiness that fans are feeling just now.

Was it wrong of me to share that info? Maybe. But that's partly what I thought these message boards were designed for.

 

It's not a problem for you or anybody else to share info on here. Keeps the place lively.

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3 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Thanks for the context. No criticism from me. I'd rather hear it than not, I was just pointing out that it wasn't just Mercer who was hearing rumours of Mowbray's departure.  

 

Aye, I think Merce is suffering from the 'boy who cried wolf' syndrome :)

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Just now, Wegerleswiggle said:

Maybe the replacement has already been lined up for the summer and they are trying to get him in now. 

These dreams get bigger by the second! 🤕🤕🤕🤕

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4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

We're an established Championship club. And a mid range/big one at that. These jobs don't come up very often. 

They'd have us believe that nobody would want it and we'd have to get the begging bowl out for a decent manager to come.

Give over. What a club and division for a confident manager to come to.

*of course that's assuming most managers aren't ignored for not having the right agent.

Rovers are a reputable club, but the owners certainly aren't. That's the issue. For as long as we have these owners, we'll continually employ chancers or rookies.

Paul Lambert was probably the exception to the rule at that particular time. He came with a good reputation and a level of excitement that Venkys had finally turned the corner. Lambert soon figured out how the owners operated, and he walked.

Granted, Lambert had an exit clause, meaning that he wouldn't need to pay any sort of compensation to the club for walking away, but at least he had standards.

As for the other managers that should have gone long before they did (Kean, Bowyer, Coyle, and now Mowbray), their scant reputations tell you everything you need to know as to why they stick around; they'll never get as big a gig at another club, and they know it.

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3 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

Aye, I think Merce is suffering from the 'boy who cried wolf' syndrome 🙂

If you throw enough darts you will eventually hit the bullseye.

😁😁😁😁😁

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17 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

Was it wrong of me to share that info? Maybe. But that's partly what I thought these message boards were designed for.

I'm glad people post this stuff if genuine. At least you've now clarified your source to some degree. perfectly fine with this. Made for more interesting reading this morning.

It's annoying when people post rumours as fact, when they've actually got them from @bullshitboy1875 on twitter, in a bid just to look to be first with the news on the off chance it happens. 

However past experience tells me that even rumours from sources 'inside the club' invariably don't come off. Praying this one does.

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1 minute ago, Hasta said:

I'm glad people post this stuff if genuine. At least you've now clarified your source to some degree. perfectly fine with this. Made for more interesting reading this morning.

It's annoying when people post rumours as fact, when they've actually got them from @bullshitboy1875 on twitter, in a bid just to look to be first with the news on the off chance it happens. 

However past experience tells me that even rumours from sources 'inside the club' invariably don't come off. Praying this one does.

100% mate. There's a chasm between 'been instructed to act' and 'sacking Mowbray' and as they say, its the hope that kills you!

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I appreciate posters sharing news that they've heard as that's what a forum is all about. I'm sure it's all posted in good faith but I'm pretty certain TM will still be here come the final game of the season. 

Our club is way down the priority list of the owners and acting now would add to their list of problems. It's easier for them to do nothing at all and carry on as usual. The summer may be when a change is made but I think its pie in the sky to think anything will happen before then sadly. 

I hope I'm wrong. 

 

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1 minute ago, oldjamfan1 said:

There's a chasm between 'been instructed to act' and 'sacking Mowbray' and as they say, its the hope that kills you!

'Instructed to act' could also imply that Waggott must simply start applying pressure to make this work with Mowbray still at the helm.

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3 minutes ago, windymiller7 said:

I don't see what calling people out achieves.  If you don't like it, scroll past & move on.

 

Yeah. But if you keep continually posting rumours that have no sources, and have a terrible track record of doing this in the past, of course you can expect to be called out.

If they don't like being called out, stop posting them. It's a messageboard and peoples posts can be questioned.

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30 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

I certainly don't claim to be 'ITK' at all but shortly after the final whistle yesterday I received a text from someone extremely close to the club - not the playing or coaching side - who doesn't normally gossip (he can't afford to, it would cost him his job) who, unsolicited, told me that Waggott had been instructed to act. All this talk of being sacked today and announced at 3pm didn't come from me, I didn't hear any specifics at all.

However, I am very confident that something is happening in relation to the manager, but people posting "Its not happening is it?" every 5 minutes on here doesn't help alleviate the general twitchiness that fans are feeling just now.

Was it wrong of me to share that info? Maybe. But that's partly what I thought these message boards were designed for.

 

I think I might well have the access to the same person.

As it happens, I haven't asked him, but I would be very surprised if he doesn't know something.

Happy to call or text him, if we don't hear anything, by later today.

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30 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

I certainly don't claim to be 'ITK' at all but shortly after the final whistle yesterday I received a text from someone extremely close to the club - not the playing side - who doesn't normally gossip (he can't afford to, it would cost him his job) who, unsolicited, told me that Waggott had been instructed to act. All this talk of being sacked today and announced at 3pm didn't come from me, I didn't hear any specifics at all.

However, I am very confident that something is happening in relation to the manager, but people posting "Its not happening is it?" every 5 minutes on here doesn't help alleviate the general twitchiness that fans are feeling just now.

Was it wrong of me to share that info? Maybe. But that's partly what I thought these message boards were designed for.

 

To clarify that I am not just trying to shut down any information being shared, this rumour does have meat on the bones without even needing to specify individuals, it has some context, and it also contains plenty of restraint. Whether I or anyone else choose to believe it is irrelevant, I appreciate that this is shared and it is a world away from "people have said" without any context whatsoever.

My personal opinion is that Mowbray will certainly finish the season and is likely to manage us into next season, and that the owners dont give a shit and probably dont even know where we are in the league. But I appreciate this sort of post nonetheless so thanks for sharing.

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2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

In what situation would I need to eat humble pie?

Part of my criticism regarding the tossers that own us is that they dont care enough to sack the manager you claim that I am defending!

 

When Mowbray has gone

Still going on and on. give it a rest. 

1 hour ago, Ulrich said:

I'll take that bet, I'm even willing to give you odds of 2/1.

What's your family fortune worth?

Nothing happens quickly in venkyland.

its was a joke

57 minutes ago, PeteJD13 said:

as soon as you do that people stop telling you info, sometimes you have to take it at face value things can be told in good faith and decisions can change

exactly Pete. Sometimes things change last minute or people change their mind cos of something or someone actions or opinion. Roversfan99 need to accept that and people cant always share their sources for a reason or reasons

44 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Howard_RV 

 

do you trust him?

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1 hour ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

A Scott Of the Antarctic job - with hopefully a better ending. It is a bit chilly though!

Maybe hypnotise Mowbray and then tell him he’s Captain Oates. 

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1 hour ago, Ewood Ace said:

Behind the scenes the club is rotten and needs a complete revamp. Get rid of Mowbray, Waggott, and Vdenus.  Get in a Director of Football (and put him on the board) who is in charge of overseeing football operations at boardroom level and also responsible for recruiting a new manager and his coaching staff. Get in a CEO by doing a proper interviewing process (although who is doing the interviewing is another worrying question) and appoint someone with no connections to anyone at the club. 

I agree with bring in a new CEO with no connections to anyone at the club or even promote Ian Slivester who is very experience in Football. He can't be any worst than Waggott and Shaw can he? 

Venkys should have had a director of football operations for years now. I am in favour of us appoint to oversee the football operations. He would be in charge of signing players, contracts and negotiations of transfers and players. Then appoint a head coach for on the field matters like Training and tactics. Its works at some EFL clubs and alot of European clubs have this same model.  

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13 minutes ago, lraC said:

I think I might well have the access to the same person.

As it happens, I haven't asked him, but I would be very surprised if he doesn't know something.

Happy to call or text him, if we don't hear anything, by later today.

nah don't wait ping them now!

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