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Waggott was involved in the downscaling of Coventry and Charlton wasn't he ?

Perhaps that's his real area of expertise - cost saving to absent owners. 

Have him and this manager really been hired to build the club back up again or streamline it to run at its current level ?

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Just now, tomphil said:

Waggott was involved in the downscaling of Coventry and Charlton wasn't he ?

Perhaps that's his real area of expertise - cost saving to absent owners. 

Have him and this manager really been hired to build the club back up again or streamline it to run at its current level ?

Even if the latter is true tomphil from a business p.o.v it doesn't make any sense in shutting the bar permanently. If it isn't making enough revenue simply redevelop it. I am sorry but we have been told that we now have money at the club, take approx. 200k from that and gut the place, turn it into somewhere that people want to go, and as JHRover said serve some real beer at local prices.

A lot of the pubs in that area are charging extortionate amounts (The Station at Cherry Tree, Beehive) but they are remaining open and in some cases thriving. The work done at Cherry Tree cricket club shows that with some imagination and investment people will come- there's a waiting list for members there now, or at least was as of 6 months ago.

There is a lot of room at Ewood and we could easily accommodate a good pub / evening restaurant. At Aston Villa you can eat in the directors lounge midweek for anything between £20 - £50 per head, depending on the option selected, as it allows the trainee / junior chefs to prepare your meal. On more than one occasion I've took the mrs there and every single night it's been like eating in a fine dining establishment for an affordable price - never a bad word to say about it.

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When I was a kid I'm sure the John Lewis suite was open for Sunday lunches, Mothers Day etc.

There is all sorts the modern day club could be trying with the plethora of hospitality/catering we have, yet just scale everything back to cut costs is the seeming modus operandi.

 

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32 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

When I was a kid I'm sure the John Lewis suite was open for Sunday lunches, Mothers Day etc.

There is all sorts the modern day club could be trying with the plethora of hospitality/catering we have, yet just scale everything back to cut costs is the seeming modus operandi.

 

Which is the John Lewis suite?

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18 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

As other club's look to constantly boost their income streams, we downsize and downsize.

AFC Fylde, currently bottom half of the fifth tier rake it in with their conference centre, hotel, cafe, sportsbar, Italian restaurant. Yet, we are pretty much a shell operation.

The 'Club that Jack Built', ay?

Can personally confirm that AFC Fylde do not "rake it in". Almost all of those facilities are struggling massively on non-matchdays. They're desperate for more people when games aren't on, and have been struggling since they rebranded and have tried everything from refurbishments, and hiring new marketing people such as myself.

Really wouldn't shock me if they ended up scaling back their facilities, OR spending massively to try and market them (and probably failing)

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Can personally confirm that AFC Fylde do not "rake it in". Almost all of those facilities are struggling massively on non-matchdays. They're desperate for more people when games aren't on, and have been struggling since they rebranded and have tried everything from refurbishments, and hiring new marketing people such as myself.

And yet it is still open. They havent given up and taken the easy option. They want to try and turn it around.

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Just now, JHRover said:

And yet it is still open. They havent given up and taken the easy option. They want to try and turn it around.

Blues Bar has been open on non-matchdays for much longer, and they have a chairman who is very resilient and doesn't like to see things fail. The Hotel, Sports Bar and Restaurant really struggle, they get no business on a non-matchday and based off of my viewing in the summer (June to be specific) I really can't see them lasting even half as long as the Blues Bar did open on non-matchdays.

What DOES bother me, is that we spent £50,000 on Blues just two years ago, a year and half ago actually. Another failed investment.

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Just now, JoeH said:

Can personally confirm that AFC Fylde do not "rake it in". Almost all of those facilities are struggling massively on non-matchdays. They're desperate for more people when games aren't on, and have been struggling since they rebranded and have tried everything from refurbishments, and hiring new marketing people such as myself.

Really wouldn't shock me if they ended up scaling back their facilities, OR spending massively to try and market them (and probably failing)

I'm sure they appreciate you publicly revealing that and taking their money despite anticipating failure.

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Just now, Vinjay17 said:

I'm sure they appreciate you publicly revealing that and taking their money despite anticipating failure.

I haven't taken any money from AFC Fylde I don't understand your point. I went for a job interview, got the job, and the job was then discontinued and I never started. The Chairman admitting the club couldn't afford it. They needed someone like myself simply because the facilities where failing. They'll either bite the bullet and push on marketing and try again, or it'll fail. They struggle even more so than Blues does.

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10 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

When I was a kid I'm sure the John Lewis suite was open for Sunday lunches, Mothers Day etc.

There is all sorts the modern day club could be trying with the plethora of hospitality/catering we have, yet just scale everything back to cut costs is the seeming modus operandi.

 

The John Lewis Suite was open during the week prior to the ground redevelopment, Matt. When I worked in Blackburn, me and the Mrs went for our dinner one day and I was delighted to see Kenny and all the players in there for their mid day meal. I remember, the bar man was temporarily away from the bar and Shearer, fed up of waiting, got up and poured himself a pint. The food was good as well.

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22 hours ago, JHRover said:

No I very rarely go in and rarely buy any food or drink from the club outlets. I'm a real ale drinker and don't like being ripped off. So I won't be paying £4 or whatever it is for a pint of Fosters or John Smiths.

They could relaunch the Blues Bar. Change the name. Call it the 'Rovers Return' and refurbish it to give it a 'real ale pub' style feel.  If worried about changing habits then what is popular at the moment? Real ale rather than keg beer. Traditional decor and furniture, cask ales on tap, pub grub at sensible prices e.g. not £15 for burger and chips. 

Sheffield Wednesday did it at Hillsborough and opened the 'Hillsborough Tap'.

Give season ticket holders the option of membership for an extra £10 a year. Membership gets you 2 pints per game at a reduced price. Get people into the habit of going in. Market it to local businesses as a place to get a decent lunch during the week. Put a quiz on one night. 

Too much effort though. Just close it.

You’ve obviously not been in blues bar for a while, food is reasonably priced, match day experience is really buzzing, but hardly anyone goes in during the week, seems pretty sensible to only open on match days and functions.

Its also been fully refurbished to a high standard and looks very well.

Also told that plans are afoot to refurbish the Darwen end lounge and open as a Mediterranean restaurant opening every day.

The concourses have been revamped and they are refurbishing all the lounges.

The person telling me this is  very much involved in the club who said they have realised that not much has been done in the last 25 years to upgrade everything as the ground is getting a little tired. 

Believe also a soft drinks bar ( no alcohol) is also in the pipeline in one of the smaller lounges.

This is all done as a joint venture with Rovers and the new catering partner Sodexo.

And believe it or not the plans are still there re the riverside stand inc a hotel, but that is definitely only going to happen if we return to the premier league.

Going back to Blues bar, the atmosphere on match days is brilliant, before and after the game and many times you struggle to get in because it’s packed.

Understand  you going on about Stanley, but you can’t compare the two clubs and facilities , overheads etc. Personally think the management deserves a little credit instead of negative stuff.

 

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1 hour ago, unsall said:

You’ve obviously not been in blues bar for a while, food is reasonably priced, match day experience is really buzzing, but hardly anyone goes in during the week, seems pretty sensible to only open on match days and functions.

Its also been fully refurbished to a high standard and looks very well.

Also told that plans are afoot to refurbish the Darwen end lounge and open as a Mediterranean restaurant opening every day.

The concourses have been revamped and they are refurbishing all the lounges.

The person telling me this is  very much involved in the club who said they have realised that not much has been done in the last 25 years to upgrade everything as the ground is getting a little tired. 

Believe also a soft drinks bar ( no alcohol) is also in the pipeline in one of the smaller lounges.

This is all done as a joint venture with Rovers and the new catering partner Sodexo.

And believe it or not the plans are still there re the riverside stand inc a hotel, but that is definitely only going to happen if we return to the premier league.

Going back to Blues bar, the atmosphere on match days is brilliant, before and after the game and many times you struggle to get in because it’s packed.

Understand  you going on about Stanley, but you can’t compare the two clubs and facilities , overheads etc. Personally think the management deserves a little credit instead of negative stuff.

 

Completely agree ..the people on here calling this a travesty and the clubs fault ..how many times did they actually go to the Blues Bar mid week ? Lots of local pubs are struggling mid week nevermind one stuck in a footie ground . a lot of pubs don't even open Mondays.

Theres very little around the Blues Bar  pub wise to make a pub crawl of it and could completely understand if it was simply kept open say on a Friday night with maybe a band on .

And this Stanley love in ..yes great ideas ..but lets not forget Stanley have a  limited capacity of  around 5500 and are more than willing to give three quarters of the ground to away support. That's their only way to survive and  I maybe wrong but I think Andy Holt has already said they ve lost 145 grand already. 

Meanwhile we re up in arms whether away support should be in Lower or Upper tier ..

I get people on here within reason  hate Waggott ..hate Mowbray even (some cant even post without an Anti Mowbray comment..you know who you are ..).. but come on ..lets not tag everything onto them ..three quarters of this board don't even make it to Ewood on a Saturday so aint making  the Blues Bar on a non descript  Tuesday night in January  ..

 

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Always a good atmosphere on a match day.

Though I personally think its latest renovation has made it too generic a sports bar with a load of the Rovers memorabilia/photos that once adorned the walls etc stripped out.

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7 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Always a good atmosphere on a match day.

Though I personally think its latest renovation has made it too generic a sports bar with a load of the Rovers memorabilia/photos that once adorned the walls etc stripped out.

It was unique. Why would they create a 'generic' sports bar when most towns/cities have several? If they were looking to grow non-match day business, it's been a huge own goal (pun intended Waggott/Pasha)

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On ‎28‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 18:36, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

Or maybe they’re pragmatic business decisions that have been made because no one is making use of the facilities you’ve listed..

We had 11k on last night. I don’t think you can blame the club for shutting parts of the ground if only 1/3rd of it is full.

 

So why not close the Riverside and Blackburn End? Put all home fans in the Jack Walker Stand (They would fit most games). Less stewarding costs etc?

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1 hour ago, Sparks Rover said:

Close the Blackburn End?????☹

May as well just shut up shop if that was to happen.

Quickest way to cut gates even more because a lot in BBurn End will not move into the JW.

Im hoping it was a tongue in cheek suggestion from PK ..which now .. I think it was !

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On 29/11/2019 at 20:19, Claytons Left Boot said:

The John Lewis Suite was open during the week prior to the ground redevelopment, Matt. When I worked in Blackburn, me and the Mrs went for our dinner one day and I was delighted to see Kenny and all the players in there for their mid day meal. I remember, the bar man was temporarily away from the bar and Shearer, fed up of waiting, got up and poured himself a pint. The food was good as well.

I uses to work in thé John Lewis suite thé players and manager uses to always have lunch in there ,it was when they trained on the pitch.met jack Walker a few times .

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So did the club switch entirely to training at Ewood between the old "training ground" and Brockhall? 

20 hours ago, Mum63 said:

I uses to work in thé John Lewis suite thé players and manager uses to always have lunch in there ,it was when they trained on the pitch.met jack Walker a few times .

Well he was your boss if somewhat indirectly.

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