Politics

[K-Hod]

As mentioned in the general election thread, this is the new thread to discuss politics as the election is long gone by now. 
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[den]

So... Trump is a lone gunman and if anybody needs taking out it’s him.

[Gav]

2 minutes ago, den said:

So... Trump is a lone gunman and if anybody needs taking out it’s him.

Anyone would think this Iran conflict has been orchestrated to remove his pending impeachment from the front pages and news outlets 

[only2garners]

Well at least we haven't got any vulnerable UK citizens still in prison in Iran - oh hang on.........

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

Anyone would think this Iran conflict has been orchestrated to remove his pending impeachment from the front pages and news outlets 

The impeachment that isnt never going to get pass the Senate. 

 

[Gav]

28 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

The impeachment that isnt never going to get pass the Senate. 

 

Whether it happens or not is irrelevant, Trump is an egomaniac and the impeachment process will be hurting him to his core.

If Trump can move the conversation away from his domestic troubles he'll see that as a major victory under the circumstances. 

 

[chaddyrovers]

9 minutes ago, Gav said:

Whether it happens or not is irrelevant, Trump is an egomaniac and the impeachment process will be hurting him to his core.

If Trump can move the conversation away from his domestic troubles he'll see that as a major victory under the circumstances. 

 

Well it wont happen  

Aren't all politicians egimaniac with British or American or etc. 

Half the country love Trump and half hate him just like it's been for many years. 

Look at what Republicans did to Clinton during presidency and before. They hated him from day 1 and did everything they could to get him out of the White House

[speeeeeeedie]

31 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well it wont happen  

Aren't all politicians egimaniac with British or American or etc. 

Half the country love Trump and half hate him just like it's been for many years. 

Look at what Republicans did to Clinton during presidency and before. They hated him from day 1 and did everything they could to get him out of the White House

I recently finished listening to a really good podcast on the Clinton impeachment. It was interesting, especially listing to politicans from both parties saying the exact same soundbites as  today. However, the roles were reveresed. Republicans were gung-ho for it, Democrats against it.

As to your comment of all politicans being egomanaics; you may be right but Trump's ego is larger than most and not a like for like comparison. He also has no idea about foreign policy. He didn't spend his working life learning the nuances of international relations whilst in the foreign sevice. His life's work is putting up gaudy buildings, bankrupting casinos, and sitting in a TV studio, while simultaneously trying to get his end away with as many women as possible.

 

[Mashed Potatoes]

37 minutes ago, speeeeeeedie said:

I recently finished listening to a really good podcast on the Clinton impeachment. It was interesting, especially listing to politicans from both parties saying the exact same soundbites as  today. However, the roles were reveresed. Republicans were gung-ho for it, Democrats against it.

As to your comment of all politicans being egomanaics; you may be right but Trump's ego is larger than most and not a like for like comparison. He also has no idea about foreign policy. He didn't spend his working life learning the nuances of international relations whilst in the foreign sevice. His life's work is putting up gaudy buildings, bankrupting casinos, and sitting in a TV studio, while simultaneously trying to get his end away with as many women as possible.

 

To be fair both Kennedy and Clinton shared his last named interest.

[Paul]

4 hours ago, Gav said:

Anyone would think this Iran conflict has been orchestrated to remove his pending impeachment from the front pages and news outlets 

Not forgetting the 2020 election. Nothing like a good war to get the NRA, right wing and good ol' boys to vote for you.

Not that I'm a cynic.

[Paul]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well it wont happen  

Aren't all politicians egimaniac with British or American or etc. 

Half the country love Trump and half hate him just like it's been for many years. 

Look at what Republicans did to Clinton during presidency and before. They hated him from day 1 and did everything they could to get him out of the White House

Well as you voted for one you'll know all about some politicians being egomaniacs. We've already established you care about no one other than your family. It doesn't surprise me in the least you fail to see there are some people who go in to political life with a real desire to do good. But you wouldn't understand that, if it even occurred to you to consider it.

[chaddyrovers]

25 minutes ago, Paul said:

Well as you voted for one you'll know all about some politicians being egomaniacs. We've already established you care about no one other than your family. It doesn't surprise me in the least you fail to see there are some people who go in to political life with a real desire to do good. But you wouldn't understand that, if it even occurred to you to consider it.

of course I care about my family and friends and their well being. Why wouldn't I? 

I have no regrets about voting the way I did. All my family and majority of friends did vote the same way as me. We have no regrets about voting that way

[Husky]

Have we taken our country back yet?

As far as I'm aware a massive part of taking your country back is to nationalise your public services, yet the people seemingly wanted the Tories to continue to let foreign companies largely run our public transport and utilitities. Bizarre!

Edited January 6, 2020 by Husky

[Mashed Potatoes]

1 hour ago, Paul said:

Well as you voted for one you'll know all about some politicians being egomaniacs. We've already established you care about no one other than your family. It doesn't surprise me in the least you fail to see there are some people who go in to political life with a real desire to do good. But you wouldn't understand that, if it even occurred to you to consider it.

Pretty much everyone who goes in to political life does so with a desire to do good - different people have different views as to what is good.

[jim mk2]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

of course I care about my family and friends and their well being. Why wouldn't I? 

I have no regrets about voting the way I did. All my family and majority of friends did vote the same way as me. We have no regrets about voting that way

 Past. Nose. Can't. End. See. The. His.

 

[jim mk2]

9 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Pretty much everyone who goes in to political life does so with a desire to do good - different people have different views as to what is good.

Doesn't apply to Baby Trump.

Johnson has 2 functions - to massage his own ego and act as poodle to the US.

 

 

[Mashed Potatoes]

Just now, jim mk2 said:

Doesn't apply to Baby Trump.

Johnson has 2 functions - to massage his own ego and act as poodle to the US.

 

 

And yet sweeps the country in the General Election whilst Saint Jeremy leads Labour to their worst result in living memory.

[jim mk2]

Superb whataboutery. 

[Mashed Potatoes]

Interesting to see the interview in yesterday's Sunday Times where Sadiq Khan said that the electorate got it right with the General Election result.

[speeeeeeedie]

4 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

To be fair both Kennedy and Clinton shared his last named interest.

What is your point? They are all the same?

[chaddyrovers]

49 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Interesting to see the interview in yesterday's Sunday Times where Sadiq Khan said that the electorate got it right with the General Election result.

I've seen that. 

Very true

[jim mk2]

48 minutes ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

 

My job is to monitor Johnson and the right wing crooks in the Tory party in general and call them out for what they are.

His kow-towing to Big Orange as he sells out the NHS and machinations over the Brexit cliff edge over the next 12 months will be fascinating to watch. 

Edited January 6, 2020 by jim mk2

[Mashed Potatoes]

39 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

My job is to monitor Johnson and the Tory party in general and call them out for what they are.

His kow-towing to Big Orange and machinations over the Brexit cliff edge will be fascinating to watch. 

What do you think of Sadiq Khan's view that the electorate got it right at the last election, and Angela Rayner's denunciation today of anti-semitism in the Labour party.

[jim mk2]

Nothing. See previous post. 

[Mashed Potatoes]

18 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Nothing. See previous post. 

Sadiq Khan also said in his interview "we lost the argument". Reading your posts I can see his point.