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32 minutes ago, 47er said:

£25000 is very comfortable for 2 wage-earners in the same household, but even that depends on child-care costs.

But with a couple of young ones at home, a big mortgage, one income of £25000 a year is not much.

To put it into perspective, it costs over £42000 a year to send one child to Eton and Johnson is reportedly struggling on £150000 a year!

Absolutely. Put that type of salary down south with rent and you really start to struggle on one income. 

Also child care is expensive. The second wage has to be a good one to justify a person taking a job before it becomes financially viable. If you don't have family to help with this stuff it's a heck of an expense. 

 

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1 hour ago, RoverDom said:

I am with you on this a £25k salary would cover all my regular essential outgoings per month (and I'd consider myself quite wasteful) and leave about £200-300 spare. It wouldnt be a luxurious life but these arent starvation wgaes.

 

Minimum wage jobs however... that's difficult.

I agree totally Dom. 

25k is reasonable good wage 

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True. My daughter was amazed when she found out school lunches were free for her little lad. They've been paying around 1k a month for nursery fees and he only went 4 days a week. Now suddenly he's costing nothing or at least very little in comparison 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, gumboots said:

True. My daughter was amazed when she found out school lunches were free for her little lad. They've been paying around 1k a month for nursery fees and he only went 4 days a week. Now suddenly he's costing nothing or at least very little in comparison 

 

 

You'll be voting tory then next time...?

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4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

haven't I said all day since this morning that the government has given councils extra funding which isn't ringfenced so local leaders can decide on what suits their local area best with that money

Its not "extra" to what they used to get though. Its only extra to the miserly amount they were left to cope with after 2010 and Tory austerity.

They still don't get what they got before 2010 in real terms and yet so much of the consequences of this pandemic is falling on their shoulders.

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1 hour ago, RoverDom said:

What are your views on this announcement? 

They announce its extra funding for meals for kids. They give it to local councils to spend as they know what their local communities need

They have given 63 million pounds already to local councils to provide this service like this. 

Currently schools meals arent hot meals but pack lunches going off what Journalists and news reporters have said on GMB. 

But still doesn't solve the long term problems which need to done

What is your view? 

You still stand by your comment that 25k a year is a decent reasonable salary? 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54687081

Our illustrious government can't go a day without a new wave of criticism. Honestly could they do worse if they tried. 

On school meals I'm sure the government and their supporters will conveniently forget that they over opposed extending the scheme. That's the way it seems to work these days. 

 

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37 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

They announce its extra funding for meals for kids. They give it to local councils to spend as they know what their local communities need

They have given 63 million pounds already to local councils to provide this service like this. 

Currently schools meals arent hot meals but pack lunches going off what Journalists and news reporters have said on GMB. 

But still doesn't solve the long term problems which need to done

What is your view? 

You still stand by your comment that 25k a year is a decent reasonable salary? 

My view is that the Councils have been starved of funds for many years of Tory government and can no longer afford to perform the necessary functions they used to.

What's your view on that?

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1 hour ago, Blue blood said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54687081

Our illustrious government can't go a day without a new wave of criticism. Honestly could they do worse if they tried. 

On school meals I'm sure the government and their supporters will conveniently forget that they over opposed extending the scheme. That's the way it seems to work these days. 

 

If they are like they used to be when I was in primary school (fortunate enough to have packed stuff most of the time) kids should be paid to eat them never mind get them for free. Granted I've always been extremely fussy but there's plenty of expensive food I wouldn't touch (and the main reason why I will never go corporate at a football match) never mind that cheap slop and watered down "juice". 

Maybe it has improved now. Couldn't get much worse really.

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1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Currently schools meals arent hot meals but pack lunches going off what Journalists and news reporters have said on GMB. 

 

My grandson gets hot meals while he's in school. Obviously schools can't offer that service outside school terms so those schools feeding kids are feeding them packed lunch type meals in the holidays. 

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31 minutes ago, Vinjay said:

If they are like they used to be when I was in primary school (fortunate enough to have packed stuff most of the time) kids should be paid to eat them never mind get them for free. Granted I've always been extremely fussy but there's plenty of expensive food I wouldn't touch (and the main reason why I will never go corporate at a football match) never mind that cheap slop and watered down "juice". 

Maybe it has improved now. Couldn't get much worse really.

There was a drive and an improvement for a while with Jamie Oliver's campaign and they did get a lot better. Challenge was a lot of kids didn't like that! They just wanted chips...

These days they are pretty decent. Nothing to write home about but certainly not the monstrosities of our youth. They're also a very solid meal, if that makes sense, which is just what a lot of kids need. The meals can be reasonably balanced although kids can decline the veg which is why healthy eating education is needed alongside the availability of decent food. 

Bit of a ramble but basically my thought is they do a good job in providing kids with a good meal. 

 

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Hilarious listening to Hancock supporting Marcus Rashford but then not supporting Marcus Rashford in the same breath today. Do this lot have any principles?

When senior Tories such as Bernard Jenkin say the government has got it wrong you just know another U-turn is coming

 

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10 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I agree totally Dom. 

25k is reasonable good wage 

It depends where you live. It may be a good wage for you in the North West of England but down here in the South West it is far from a good wage, in fact its well below average.

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Just now, Ewood Ace said:

The party that I probably have the most in common with would be The Workers Party of Britain.

They;re so well known I had to look them up on Google. I see George Galloway is behind it. Good luck

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Just now, Blue blood said:

There was a drive and an improvement for a while with Jamie Oliver's campaign and they did get a lot better. Challenge was a lot of kids didn't like that! They just wanted chips...

These days they are pretty decent. Nothing to write home about but certainly not the monstrosities of our youth. They're also a very solid meal, if that makes sense, which is just what a lot of kids need. The meals can be reasonably balanced although kids can decline the veg which is why healthy eating education is needed alongside the availability of decent food. 

Bit of a ramble but basically my thought is they do a good job in providing kids with a good meal. 

 

School meals through secondary school were fantastic. Only poor meal we got was spam fritters but even then we used to eat them without complaint. No chips ever but Miss Furnell's beef and veg stew was to die for as was her rice pudding with doughnuts

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5 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

They;re so well known I had to look them up on Google. I see George Galloway is behind it. Good luck

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6 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

When senior Tories such as Bernard Jenkin say the government has got it wrong you just know another U-turn is coming

 

The Mrs saw him in Marr yesterday and said:

‘It can’t believe I’m actually agreeing with Bernard bloody Jenkin’

He called for Dido to be sacked as well as support for kids meals. 

 

 

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