den 7771 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 9 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: It has been done in a underhand way, the candidates were told nothing by the party and have been told not to reapply. And no one knows why any of this has happened, it looks and smells awfully like a stitch up that has come from the top of the party. Without knowing any of the details - which neither me nor you seem to do - it’s hard to say. It might be the right decision to stop them from standing as mayor, or it might be the wrong decision. The party leadership do have the right to veto who it thinks are unsuitable candidates for key positions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Ewood Ace 5262 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, den said: Without knowing any of the details - which neither me nor you seem to do - it’s hard to say. It might be the right decision to stop them from standing as mayor, or it might be the wrong decision. The party leadership do have the right to veto who it thinks are unsuitable candidates for key positions. Anna Rothery is the current Lord Mayor of Liverpool and has been elected a councillor in the city on 4 separate occasion yet now the party will not allow her to run for mayor. Let's hope that she does what Ken did in London in 2000 and really sticks it to Labour that way and hugely embarrasses Starmer. It's clear now that anyone even slightly left of centre is not welcome in the Labour party. Edited February 23 by Ewood Ace Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gav 9525 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 42 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: Let's hope that she does what Ken did in London in 2000 and really sticks it to Labour that way and hugely embarrasses Starmer. It's clear now that anyone even slightly left of centre is not welcome in the Labour party. This is exactly the reason why Labour will not return to power anytime soon. We've got the Covid thread slagging off Blunkett and Straw, this thread slagging off Starmer. You all may as well put that cross in Tory box come the next general election, job done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ewood Ace 5262 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Gav said: This is exactly the reason why Labour will not return to power anytime soon. We've got the Covid thread slagging off Blunkett and Straw, this thread slagging off Starmer. You all may as well put that cross in Tory box come the next general election, job done. It's clear now that anyone even slightly left of centre is not welcome in Starmer's Labour Party. Why would someone vote for a party that they aren't welcome in? 2 minutes ago, Gav said: put that cross in Tory box come the next general election, job done. Do you not do that anyway? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gav 9525 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 6 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: It's clear now that anyone even slightly left of centre is not welcome in Starmer's Labour Party. Why would someone vote for a party that they aren't welcome in? You're voting Tory then EA, if you're comfortable with that so am I. Glad we cleared that up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ewood Ace 5262 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Gav said: You're voting Tory then EA, if you're comfortable with that so am I. Glad we cleared that up. Given I live in a constituency with a 20,000 Tory majority it makes little odds whether I vote Labour, Tory or Monster Raving Loony. If I ever bother to vote at an election I vote Labour (which I have done at the last 2 general elections) but I certainly won't be voting for the Tory lite party that Starmer is making them. He's the worst leader of the opposition that I have ever seen. I know you have said you didn't vote Corbyn at the last election so using your theory you voted Tory. Good to see you finally admit it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gav 9525 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 18 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: Given I live in a constituency with a 20,000 Tory majority it makes little odds whether I vote Labour, Tory or Monster Raving Loony. Bassetlaw had a swing to the Tory party of around 18,000 at the last election, it had been Labour since 1935. Its good job not everyone thinks like you EA 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ewood Ace 5262 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 11 minutes ago, Gav said: Bassetlaw had a swing to the Tory party of around 18,000 at the last election, it had been Labour since 1935. Its good job not everyone thinks like you EA 👍 The constituency I live in has never been Labour at the very best Labour run a very distant third and would need a swing of around 28,000 for it to go Labour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone Shoelaces 12987 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ewood Ace said: The constituency I live in has never been Labour at the very best Labour run a very distant third and would need a swing of around 28,000 for it to go Labour. I've been involved in politics since the late 1960's and one thing has never changed with the Labour Party - they throw out the socialists and lionise the pseudo Tories. Then they expect us to keep voting for them. I've never missed voting Labour since the 1970 Summer General Election when I was just 21. Every bye election, general election, council election since then. Unless things change dramatically I'll vote for the Greens next time, I've had enough of Labour's duplicity to be honest. Labour will always get elected in Rochdale so I can indulge myself. Edited February 23 by Tyrone Shoelaces Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ewood Ace 5262 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Very important questions from Salmond. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jim mk2 9334 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Sunak planning to raise corporation tax in the forthcoming Budget Funny how it was a written off "calamitous policy" by the right wing press when the exact same policy was proposed by Corbyn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gav 9525 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) I'm all for raising taxes, its what socialism is all about, well done Rishi. "Taxation is the lifeblood of any socialist system, including all those we see today. In truth, there is no way to implement socialism without raising taxes on the general public" Don't be fooled by the pretenders. Edited February 25 by Gav Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoverDom 2341 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 A step in the right direction but meaningless without closing loopholes and go after tax avoiding companies. The higher the CT rate the more lucrative it is to pursue tax avoidance strategies so youre getting more money but only out of the honest tax paying companies. Without closing loopholes and pursuing big companies you're effectively making honesty a taxable trait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ewood Ace 5262 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 A very good article from Andrew Neil on the deepening crisis in Scotland. You have to wonder if it may come to the stage where the Westminster government have to step in. ANDREW NEIL: How Nicola Sturgeon's storm troops turned Scotland into a banana republic | Daily Mail Online Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone Shoelaces 12987 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 The former French Ambassador obviously not in the Johnson fan club - he's " an unrepentant and inveterate liar ". " Brexiters are consumed by hatred for Germany and are gripped by the myth that they liberated Europe on their own, describing Brexit as a triumph of emotion over reason won by a campaign full of lies in which negative attitudes to migration were exploited by figures such as Michael Gove and Johnson ". Tell it like it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ewood Ace 5262 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 9 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: The former French Ambassador obviously not in the Johnson fan club - he's " an unrepentant and inveterate liar ". " Brexiters are consumed by hatred for Germany and are gripped by the myth that they liberated Europe on their own, describing Brexit as a triumph of emotion over reason won by a campaign full of lies in which negative attitudes to migration were exploited by figures such as Michael Gove and Johnson ". Tell it like it is. We certainly didn't liberate Europe on our own but after the French quickly waved the white flag we stood alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 457 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Caring Sharing Conservative Britain Nearly half of people believe those who lost their job during the pandemic were likely to have been underperforming, a survey has found. In findings that will raise fears over inequalities in Britain, a study of attitudes by researchers at Kings College London showed a significant minority thought a widening post-Covid income gap between white people and BAME groups would not be a problem. And even more worrying In one of the starkest findings, one in eight Britons (13%) said they think black people are more likely to be unemployed and have lower incomes because they “lack motivation or willpower”. I really despair with this country Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaddyrovers 6526 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Great to see PM Johnson visiting a school in the Hyndburn area today and meeting students who were on site. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ewood Ace 5262 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Great to see PM Johnson visiting a school in the Hyndburn area today and meeting students who were on site. Hardly an essential journey though was it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaddyrovers 6526 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 2 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: Hardly an essential journey though was it. The Children who met him was remember it for years to come. He is PM and going around the country meeting people is part of his job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ewood Ace 5262 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said: The Children who met him was remember it for years to come. Is that a good thing though? 1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said: He is PM and going around the country meeting people is part of his job You shouldn't be meeting with people outside of your bubble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jim mk2 9334 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 32 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Great to see PM Johnson visiting a school in the Hyndburn area today and meeting students who were on site. Why "PM" Johnson? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaddyrovers 6526 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 18 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: Is that a good thing though? You shouldn't be meeting with people outside of your bubble. Yes of course it a good thing. You meet people all the time. Facemask were worn and social distancing maintain. 6 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Why "PM" Johnson? Cos he the Prime Minister Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jim mk2 9334 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Cos he the Prime Minister Yes, we know. But his name is Boris Johnson, or Johnson. Or serial liar to be more correct. An honorific like "PM" Johnson is American Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaddyrovers 6526 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) 1 minute ago, jim mk2 said: Yes, we know. But his name is Boris Johnson, or Johnson. I prefer Prime Minister Johnson thanks Jim 👍 Dont see what your argument is apart from just a whinge to be honest Edited February 25 by chaddyrovers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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