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Times cartoon yesterday (below)

A poll today for the i newspaper by Redfield & Wilton Strategies also showed that Johnson is seen by the public as "dishonest, inconsistent and disorganised by a majority of voters"

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-vaccine-bounce-fades-as-pms-ratings-negative-two-years-downing-street-1118870

The British public is slowly waking up to what has been obvious from the start - he is unfit for office

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1 hour ago, jim mk2 said:

A poll today for the i newspaper by Redfield & Wilton Strategies also showed that Johnson is seen by the public as "dishonest, inconsistent and disorganised by a majority of voters"

The British public is slowly waking up to what has been obvious from the start - he is unfit for office

I don't know how Johnson does it, not only is he more popular today, the Tories have also extended the lead in the polls, I really worry for the future of the Labour party, Corbyn has destroyed the very foundations and continues to do so. 

While Boris Johnson continues to lead in our Best Prime Minister question, both party leaders make gains. Johnson is up four points to 37%, compared to Keir Starmer who has risen two points to 27%. Three in ten people (31%) remain undecided. 

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/07/19/voting-intention-con-44-lab-31-15-16-july

What are people thinking....

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The tide is turning

To be fair, lots of quite reasonable people fell for Johnson's buffoonery on Have I Got News For You but after 2 years of chaos and incompetence those same people now long for a competent, technical leader instead of a clown

Only when the UK ditches Johnson can it start its journey back to being a serious country. Until then, it is seen around the world only as a joke. 

 

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The tide will turn against Johnson; as with football managers, politicians generally have a shelf life. The Tories know this, and Johnson will be replaced at some point as they look to retain power.

The problem we have though, isn't Johnson. The problem is the complete lack of any semblance of opposiiton. Corbyn has set the country back a decade or so by trying to play The Pied Piper.

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The longer Johnson stays in number 10 the better, for the opposition that is, but I just don't think the Labour party has the guile or the know how to out flank the Tories.

Starmer needs to surround himself with experience, because the current crop, with one of two exceptions, are just simply not up to it.

Its a long road back for Labour, I can't see them getting close to government for at least 10-15yrs, unless they form a progressive alliance.

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Did anyone notice this?

Nigel Farage has turned on the RNLI, like the NHS another revered institution in the UK, suggesting that its volunteer life saving crews in the Channel are acting as a ‘migrant taxi service’.

The intention is, of course, to intimidate crews into abandoning migrants to their fate at sea.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations

The government is also apparently introducing legislation that has a 14 year prison sentenced attached to an RNLI volunteer crew member who actually saves the life of a migrant by bringing them to safety in the UK.

This is the country we have become under these far right populists. 

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Sheffield Forgemasters to be nationalised to secure its future

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-57997858

Who needs Jezza when you have the socialist Boris Johnson in Downing St?

If any other party had done this the right wing tabloids - and right wing MPs - would have gone berserk

But it's quietly accepted as a "good thing" because it's  a Tory initiative, not one proposed by "Communist" Corbyn.

 

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https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/sheffield-forgemasters-sold-to-ministry-of-defence-in-ps258m-deal-3326089
 

200yr old Sheffield Forgemasters has been sold to MOD for £2.58m securing around 700 jobs.

The MoD’s intention is to invest up to £400m over the next 10 years to replace defence-critical equipment and infrastructure as we recapitalise our productive capacity, positioning the company to retain and create new highly skilled manufacturing jobs within the Sheffield City region.

Sounds like levelling up to me, great news. 
 

 

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The real reason the Tories took a leaf out of Labour's playbook

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/07/28/sheffield-forgemasters-nationalised-save-collapse/

So there you have it....never let it be said again that strategically important companies cannot be nationalised in the public interest.

And nationalisation is definitely on the agenda when it suits the Tory government, in this case to preserve the forces of oppression .

So much for "levelling-up"

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54 minutes ago, Gav said:

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/sheffield-forgemasters-sold-to-ministry-of-defence-in-ps258m-deal-3326089
 

200yr old Sheffield Forgemasters has been sold to MOD for £2.58m securing around 700 jobs.

The MoD’s intention is to invest up to £400m over the next 10 years to replace defence-critical equipment and infrastructure as we recapitalise our productive capacity, positioning the company to retain and create new highly skilled manufacturing jobs within the Sheffield City region.

Sounds like levelling up to me, great news. 
 

 

Sounds like good old socialist policies to me Gav. The sort of policy the Unions would have been panned for backing by Tories everywhere 😀

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11 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

Did anyone notice this?

Nigel Farage has turned on the RNLI, like the NHS another revered institution in the UK, suggesting that its volunteer life saving crews in the Channel are acting as a ‘migrant taxi service’.

The intention is, of course, to intimidate crews into abandoning migrants to their fate at sea.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/28/rnli-hits-out-migrant-taxi-service-accusations

The government is also apparently introducing legislation that has a 14 year prison sentenced attached to an RNLI volunteer crew member who actually saves the life of a migrant by bringing them to safety in the UK.

This is the country we have become under these far right populists. 

It’s the Toryban Jim.

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2 hours ago, Gav said:

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/sheffield-forgemasters-sold-to-ministry-of-defence-in-ps258m-deal-3326089
 

200yr old Sheffield Forgemasters has been sold to MOD for £2.58m securing around 700 jobs.

The MoD’s intention is to invest up to £400m over the next 10 years to replace defence-critical equipment and infrastructure as we recapitalise our productive capacity, positioning the company to retain and create new highly skilled manufacturing jobs within the Sheffield City region.

Sounds like levelling up to me, great news. 
 

 

One of top engineering companies back in the day. They used to have machine tools in there as big as large buildings.

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3 hours ago, Gav said:

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/sheffield-forgemasters-sold-to-ministry-of-defence-in-ps258m-deal-3326089
 

200yr old Sheffield Forgemasters has been sold to MOD for £2.58m securing around 700 jobs.

The MoD’s intention is to invest up to £400m over the next 10 years to replace defence-critical equipment and infrastructure as we recapitalise our productive capacity, positioning the company to retain and create new highly skilled manufacturing jobs within the Sheffield City region.

Sounds like levelling up to me, great news. 
 

 

Sounds like good old common sense to me---the sort of common sense that's been lacking when it comes to railways and buses.

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So this is the new Tory party.

Nationalise railways, gas, electricity, water, telecoms, household waste; cleaning schools, hospitals and government offices; providing IT services and support; managing prisons; providing residential care to the elderly etc etc etc

Run the largest peace time deficit

Their lapdogs in the media cheer them all the way while Momentum apoplectic for being made to look like liberals

 

 

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Well it certainly seems like our left wingers are happy with the new Tory policy on levelling up, the tide seems to be turning on here.

Can Boris count on your votes at the next general election? 

Maybe this will swing it:

Britain’s Covid-19 economic recovery set to outstrip the G7

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/britains-economic-bounceback-set-to-outstrip-the-g7-v6g6r75f2

 

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36 minutes ago, Gav said:

Well it certainly seems like our left wingers are happy with the new Tory policy on levelling up, the tide seems to be turning on here.

Can Boris count on your votes at the next general election? 

Maybe this will swing it:

Britain’s Covid-19 economic recovery set to outstrip the G7

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/britains-economic-bounceback-set-to-outstrip-the-g7-v6g6r75f2

 

Levelling up is a myth.Some money has been allocated, predominantly to Tory seats but will make minimal difference.

Tory shires are restless about it so it won't last----Amersham and Chesham effect

Austerity will return when the bills have to be paid.

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It doesn't take much critical thought to see that "levelling up" is a cynical Tory marketing slogan to trap the uninformed and unwary

Spending a few millions on hanging baskets in town centres and removing chewing gum from the pavements won't make an iota of difference to towns that have been neglected for decades and require East Germany levels of investment in people through better training, skills and jobs

Anyone who believes the "levelling up" con is a naive in the extreme or a red waller

Or both

 

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Not sure if politics is the right thread or not but hey ho. Today is Earth overshoot day, the date in the year when we've used more of the earth's resources than it is able to regenerate in a year its the equivalent of having spent all your money and being in overdraft until 1st Jan

This link was sent round work, I'd encourage everyone to have a go. I was genuinely shocked at my results especially as I feel as though I'm environmentally conscious (not full eco warrior but concious) 

https://www.footprintcalculator.org/

 

To give it a politics twang, we really need a government that has green as one of its major policies 

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32 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

Not sure if politics is the right thread or not but hey ho. Today is Earth overshoot day, the date in the year when we've used more of the earth's resources than it is able to regenerate in a year its the equivalent of having spent all your money and being in overdraft until 1st Jan

This link was sent round work, I'd encourage everyone to have a go. I was genuinely shocked at my results especially as I feel as though I'm environmentally conscious (not full eco warrior but concious) 

https://www.footprintcalculator.org/

 

To give it a politics twang, we really need a government that has green as one of its major policies 

Scientists suggesting temperatures over 40 degrees are possible in UK in the future. They are worried and amazed at the rise in temps worldwide which are way beyond anything originally predicted.

Can't say we haven't been warned. New coal-mine at Whitehaven anybody?

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7 minutes ago, 47er said:

Can't say we haven't been warned. New coal-mine at Whitehaven anybody?

I don't know too much about it but I understood one of the "benefits" of it was that it would atleast save us from importing coking coal for steel / cement production which atleast saves a little bit of carbon footprint. I know zero about how we reduce the demand for coking coal though. 

Also we need a big hole for all our nuclear waste which should really be in West Cumbria somewhere so a coal mine does kind of kill two birds with one stone. 

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