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3 hours ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

 

Themselves and Australia already have very very strict border controls in motion to carefully manage their own delicate ecosystems.

Unfortunately when you have politician's family and members of the Prime Ministers "Religiou$" cult aboard a cruise ship riddled with the virus, that is somehow allowed to offload without checks and its passengers allowed to spread the virus freely to the majority of states within Australia those strict border controls are useless.

*For further reading just type Ruby Princess  in google, criminal investigation currently going through the motions because of a public outcry.

But yes , if the failed marketing man that is in charge of Australia had locked the borders down in a reasonable amount of time maybe those strict border controls would have been useful, . Still he has given Australia to God in one of his private happy clappy group video chats (on tax payers time and from a tax payer funded office) with members who are apparently being protected from the virus by the blood of Christ ,and he has been working his preying knees hard , so we are safe now :)

Luckily each State Government in AU is now acting independently in implementing its own restrictions, must say ours in WA as been quite pro-active and  very impressive in both its actions and promotion. WA borders are now closed except for essentials . Unfortunately from what I have seen this Easter holiday so far (from news reports, social media etc ) will I think lead to greater enforced restrictions in the next week, because it seems people can not be trusted to act on advice.

I can only look across the Tasman Sea in awe at what a real leader of a country has done to protect its citizens, I and wider family have been implementing what the NZ PM and  lately WA state Premier have been advocating, and completely ignoring the advice of Australia's Pentecostal Moron.

Stay safe everyone

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Yoogo said:

Trade Unions are there to protect and fight for the rights of workers. They should not be there to be represented by idiots who damage their mission and reputation. Steve Hedley, RMT boss: "I don’t want to offend you but if Bojo pops his clogs I’m throwing a party." It's interesting how crises can show people's true colours, no matter how professional they're supposed to be.

I'm not a great fan of bojo and totally dispised corbyn and his identity politics. However I would never wish death or celebrate the death of any politician.

It does seem to be a leftist phenomenon... Despite ramming it down our throats about how they are caring and compassionate.

I don't count the extreme right as even part of society

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3 hours ago, Yoogo said:

I'm beginning to believe that they at least owe it to the world an explanation, but given that nobody fully trusts whatever they say, it would just be a token gesture, methinks.

What about the UK government? Do you think that they have a responsibility to answer (to an inquiry, to Parliament, and/or to the people) for its response to the crisis, particularly when there are questions hanging over the speed of it (which, in turn, relates to the strategy or strategies)?

Chinese government need holding to account. 

Of course the UK government should hold an inquiry by the select committee in Parliament into our response to the crisis, our response, what we did well, would could we improve and what we didn't do well. Every government should do this around the world to make sure this never happens again

2 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

 Exactly so. If the Chinese have a case to answer for causing the virus , then the UK government does too for unleashing such a devastating tsunami of suffering and death.

Nadine Dorries is even cracking sick jokes about the country being able to "breathe again" as thousands of people struggle and die due to the respiratory illness that her government allowed to spread like wildfire through the UK population.

How have the government allowed the coronavirus to spread like wildfire through the UK population? haven't we follow the advice of Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance? would qualifications in science or medical to give you a better opinion than the Chief Medical officer or Chief Scientist officer?

2 hours ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

It’s just not really the subject to be posting some of the over the top things you are. And you know it. No qualms with the way you describe the Tories in the political thread but to be accusing them of “unleashing the virus on the U.K.” is plainly wrong.

Id say your reaction to this has been very emotional. Unable to separate fact and instead looking for a stick to beat at any opportunity isn’t rational. 

@jim mk2 is playing party politics with a worldwide crisis and will look for every opportunity to criticise PM Johnson and the government but would he do this if Labour was power and making the same decisions. I doubt it, he would be defending them to the hill I bet. 

I would love to know how the conservatives unleashing the virus on the UK? Can you explain this or will you just ignore the question? 

 

 

44 minutes ago, Yoogo said:

Trade Unions are there to protect and fight for the rights of workers. They should not be there to be represented by idiots who damage their mission and reputation. Steve Hedley, RMT boss: "I don’t want to offend you but if Bojo pops his clogs I’m throwing a party." It's interesting how crises can show people's true colours, no matter how professional they're supposed to be.

will Jim criticise Steve Hedley's comments? 

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22 minutes ago, Yoogo said:

OK, this is all too depressing, so since it's Friday, let's lighten the mood a bit while keeping on-topic!

Are there any silver linings out of all of this that anybody can personally vouch for? I've got a few.

  1. I'm on good terms with my landlord, and when I (reluctantly) told him about my line of work being lost for fear of him booting us out for somebody with a secure cashflow, he invited me over for a beer and halved our rent until things get better.
     
  2. Early-on during the outbreak, a woman in the neighbourhood had to self-isolate because she had symptoms. She doesn't seem to have family or friends to rely on from what little I know, but neighbours rallied to help her by doing her food shopping and leaving it outside her house to collect.
     
  3. People have been collectively resourceful and considerate. They might be absolute maniacs on the road here, but they are absolutely considerate to others in most other respects. It's been nice to see.

Support for local businesses has gone up. I'm guilty of always going to the big supermarkets for ease but I've started using the local green grocer and butcher and other farm shops that deliver and I know others have too. Often these smaller shops are better stocked than the supermarkets. Touch wood we might see a bit of a recovery on the local high street. 

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8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

How have the government allowed the coronavirus to spread like wildfire through the UK population? haven't we follow the advice of Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance? would qualifications in science or medical to give you a better opinion than the Chief Medical officer or Chief Scientist officer?

@jim mk2

The U.K. is heading to having over 1000 deaths in a day. Only France have hit that particular target. 
 

Our government didn’t prepare for this soon enough, that’s how. How many times does this need saying?

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31 minutes ago, Yoogo said:

OK, this is all too depressing, so since it's Friday, let's lighten the mood a bit while keeping on-topic!

Are there any silver linings out of all of this that anybody can personally vouch for? I've got a few.

  1. I'm on good terms with my landlord, and when I (reluctantly) told him about my line of work being lost for fear of him booting us out for somebody with a secure cashflow, he invited me over for a beer and halved our rent until things get better.
     
  2. Early-on during the outbreak, a woman in the neighbourhood had to self-isolate because she had symptoms. She doesn't seem to have family or friends to rely on from what little I know, but neighbours rallied to help her by doing her food shopping and leaving it outside her house to collect.
     
  3. People have been collectively resourceful and considerate. They might be absolute maniacs on the road here, but they are absolutely considerate to others in most other respects. It's been nice to see.

As I'm still working, I see more wildlife like foxes and an owl on my 2am cycle home.I've never seen an owl until this week. And the journey to work has fewer cars and people. 

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6 minutes ago, den said:

The U.K. is heading to having over 1000 deaths in a day. Only France have hit that particular target. 
 

Our government didn’t prepare for this soon enough, that’s how. How many times does this need saying?

I see the figures every day thanks Den. 

That's your opinion Den. 

 

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Sir Kenny Dalglish in Hospital with coronavirus. 

Sir Kenny was admitted to hospital on Wednesday April 8 for treatment of an infection which required intravenous antibiotics. 

In keeping with current procedures, he was subsequently tested for COVID-19 despite having previously displayed no symptoms of the illness. Unexpectedly, the test result was positive but he remains asymptomatic. 

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/392764-a-message-on-behalf-of-sir-kenny-dalglish-and-family

My best wishes and thoughts to Sir Kenny Dalglish and hope he makes a full recovery. I'm sure the entire football world thoughts are with him

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1 hour ago, Yoogo said:

OK, this is all too depressing, so since it's Friday, let's lighten the mood a bit while keeping on-topic!

Are there any silver linings out of all of this that anybody can personally vouch for? I've got a few.

Yes, some little things I've personally noticed, some taken for granted and not really thought about them ..Some are coming about because more people are working from home.

The effect on nature, in just a few weeks in my local park, bird numbers are increasing to levels I have not seen before.

Although normally not noticeably polluted, the air seems a lot fresher .

More dogs seem to be getting a walk

People seem to be a lot more friendly/wanting interaction , having a chat walking their dogs (obviously observing social distancing ), probably to do with having a common subject - the virus

In my immediate neighbourhood people interacting more (again observing recommendations about distancing etc) with the elderly and other neighbours ,for instance checking if they are running short of anything , Collectively offering to share stuff like hand sanitiser etc, helping out a couple who have both just been made unemployed. Although obviously there will be a few bad eggs , it does seem that people are looking out for each other a bit more. 

Found out the names of people who I regularly see at the park when previously only knew their dogs names . Quite strange really thinking about it that you have said hello  to somebody for the last few years nearly every day and didnt know their name, nor them yours.

Reassuring that now the other half is working from home as well, knowing that we can spend 24 hours a day 7 days a week in the same space and not kill each other (joke), bodes well for a few years time in our retirements 

One downside, having to shop for the Mother and Father in Law as they are under house arrest :) , and their reluctance to try other brands of stuff making completing their weekly shopping requirements a nightmare. 

 

 

 

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On 09/04/2020 at 19:22, chaddyrovers said:

Shouldn't be driving unless going to work, shopping for food, picking up for medication or caring for Elderly relatives 

So not for non essential appointments like routine fracture clinic follow ups presumably?

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7 minutes ago, Tom said:

So not for non essential appointments like routine fracture clinic follow ups presumably?

Back this again Tom. Would have expect better from yourself. 

Well if it wasnt essential I attended my appointment I am sure they would rearranged it but they did not! So the Consultant of orthopedics department clearly thought it was essential I attend the appointment!

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3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Back this again Tom. Would have expect better from yourself. 

Well if it wasnt essential I attended my appointment I am sure they would rearranged it but they did not! So the Consultant of orthopedics department clearly thought it was essential I attend the appointment!

It was tongue in cheek mate.

I think we are in for another 4 weeks or so of this current lockdown minimum, it’s actually quite nice to have a reason to be out of the house 

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2 minutes ago, Tom said:

It was tongue in cheek mate.

I think we are in for another 4 weeks or so of this current lockdown minimum, it’s actually quite nice to have a reason to be out of the house 

I think it'll depends how old you are. Over 60 and you may be in for a very long spell indoors.

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Really I'm not noticing much change in my life in many ways. Being retired, I dont miss work and work colleagues.  I dont miss my family because none of them live  nearby, so  Messenger is our normal means of communication. I'm walking or cycling every day so perhaps that's a plus. I'm so determined not to sit at home and feel sorry for myself that I'm trying very hard to get every bit of exercise I can. And, because I'm determined not to put on weight and to give myself the best possible chance of staying fit and well, im eating carefully too.

 

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7 minutes ago, Tom said:

It was tongue in cheek mate.

I think we are in for another 4 weeks or so of this current lockdown minimum, it’s actually quite nice to have a reason to be out of the house 

I would say end of May at the earliest but we will see. 

 

It's very hard not to see Family and friends. I miss seeing my dad and mum regularly. Plus my best friend and his missus/ his son. Plus social events and i miss my football. Its does get boring indoors but it's what we all been advise to do. I will adhere to the rules

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I've not been indoors except in the evenings. The glorious weather means I've either been out walking or cycling or in my garden. It must be hard if you dont have a garden or live in a town of even worse, a city

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9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I would say end of May at the earliest but we will see. 

I’m one of those locked in for 12 weeks. It’s tough not being able to go out, see the kids and especially grandchildren. Things could always be worse though, a lot worse.

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Just now, den said:

I’m one of those locked in for 12 weeks. It’s tough not being able to go out, see the kids and especially grandchildren. Things could always be worse though, a lot worse.

My uncle is in the same position but he is adhering to rules. I bought him Netflix's so he is watching plenty of tv series and movies to watch. He is small walks around his garden. 

 

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3 minutes ago, den said:

I’m one of those locked in for 12 weeks. It’s tough not being able to go out, see the kids and especially grandchildren. Things could always be worse though, a lot worse.

Age or health issues?

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