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On 24/07/2021 at 21:33, Gav said:

I’d jail her to be honest, insighting hatred….

I thought long and hard about posting the story, but as we have our very own Piers Corbyn spouting bullshit, it’s right to call the idiots out:

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/struck-off-anti-vax-nurse-says-doctors-will-face-nuremberg-trials-282946/

What's Piers Corbyn said?

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On 24/07/2021 at 23:29, Pedro said:

What's Piers Corbyn said?

He doesn’t believe we have a pandemic, he doesn’t believe Covid is an infectious disease, he believes the past 18 months has been a ‘physiological operation’ by big corporations…….he’s a sandwich short of a picnic. 

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With all the moaning and groaning we witness in this country around wearing masks, it’s striking to see spectators at the Olympics wearing masks outdoors. 

It’s a different culture, no doubt about it, but when you look at the figures around Covid in Japan and UK, they’re not even close.

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Don't "cower" from coronavirus, says nasty piece of work

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57958538

Piers Corbyn is  criticised but  hard right Covid sceptics like Javid and the 70 Tory backbench members in the anti-lockdown Covid Recovery Group get a free ride.

With political instincts like that no wonder the Greens are irrelevant

 

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On 22/07/2021 at 20:15, Sparks Rover said:

Yes, but the figures are STILL skewed.  Literally, you could break your legs badly whilst being positive for covid and you would be counted in the numbers etc etc...

I've said this before.  The number of deaths are so low now that we should be finding out  if they are because of covid or they had covid and walked in front of a bus within 28 days..  If we don't actually get true figures then its all a load of bollox and I'm sick of it.  

8500 people die per day altogether every day in this country of other things 🤷‍♂️ can't take your cat in the vet, absolute joke this country.

Good point, the place of death used to be recorded in the UK (probably still is) and I would guess the vast majority are dying in hospitals now after being admitted due to COVID-19. You would be pretty unlucky if you tested positive and after isolating for 2 weeks then walked out and died due to an accident. Conversely you could argue that cases aren't being reported where the person 'survives/recovers', but dies due to COVID-19 related morbidities, e.g. severely decreased lung function, kindey heart etc failure. A secondary respiratory or organ infection would be a lot more severe with a severely damaged lung etc. 

I'm sure and would hope lots of scientists are looking into this.

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On 25/07/2021 at 11:50, RoverDom said:

It looks like the vast majority of people are still wearing masks from what I've seen. I've noticed those who aren't tend to be older

From what ive seen it's mainly under 30s not bothering to wear masks in shops ive been in.

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On 25/07/2021 at 12:03, Darrenbot said:

From what ive seen it's mainly under 30s not bothering to wear masks in shops ive been in.

That’s my experience too, ate out on Friday, not a mask in the place, aside from our table of course. 

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in Sainsburys, Clitheroe yesterday virtually everyone had a mask.  Been to church this morning.  Everyone wore a mask at least part of the time.  We offered people a choice but as one elderly lady said, ' I've put up with a lot this last 18 months and, if I can do anything to prevent it, it's not getting me now.'

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On 25/07/2021 at 14:31, gumboots said:

in Sainsburys, Clitheroe yesterday virtually everyone had a mask.  Been to church this morning.  Everyone wore a mask at least part of the time.  We offered people a choice but as one elderly lady said, ' I've put up with a lot this last 18 months and, if I can do anything to prevent it, it's not getting me now.'

@gumboots Slightly digressing here, I’m not religious in any way, but I love the program on Sunday mornings walking the pilgrims trails across Europe, have you seen it?

Stunning scenery and what an effort by the pilgrims all those years ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09w7lcg

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I haven't seen it, but is it the Compostella one? If so our minister did it about 10 years ago. There's also a film with Martin Sheen about a father whose son dies doing it and Sheen decides to do the walk himself to try to understand his son better. Not a religious film per se. Called The Way. It was interesting to see the motivation and challenges people set themselves

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Yes the first one was Compostela, then Rome and the final one Istanbul.

A great watch and you’re right about the challenges people put themselves through, tremendous.

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On 23/07/2021 at 13:27, Pedro said:

Yes. That is also shared by Sage and JVT.

 

It's a very simple equation/scenario.

 

Most people who will die of anything are the elderly and sick. Most people double vaccinated are the elderly and sick (and now that is filtering down).  Most people who will continue to die in times other than war - are the elderly and sick.  

If I'm reading this right; old people are more likely to die. Old people are also a higher percentage of the double jabbed, ergo when they die it is counted as a double jabbed person dying.

What information over here is reporting is that deaths from COVID are concentrated heavily in non-vaccinated populations. 

COVID vaccines work extremely well. They offer a very good defence against hospitalisation and death.

 

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On 24/07/2021 at 13:04, davulsukur said:

Had my second jab yesterday morning (moderna)

Felt ok for the rest of the day, felt pretty tired as the evening went on. 

Went to bed around 10pm, ended up with the covers fully on, getting chills, involuntary shaking, ached all over. Got no sleep at all.

Woke up thinking I'd be alright but have no energy at all today, I'm nearly asleep again already. Still aching as well.

Nightmare.

I've had both jabs.  I never felt a thing. Affects people in different ways

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On 25/07/2021 at 21:33, roverandout said:

I've had both jabs.  I never felt a thing. Affects people in different ways

Lucky you!

Yesterday was basically a write off. Felt ok from about 3pm onwards.

Slept like a baby last night, mind you.

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On 25/07/2021 at 21:56, davulsukur said:

Lucky you!

Yesterday was basically a write off. Felt ok from about 3pm onwards.

Slept like a baby last night, mind you.

Woke up screaming and shitting yourself?

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On 26/07/2021 at 17:30, RoverDom said:

Cases falling off a cliff atm, surely can't all be down to kids being off school? 

This has a heck of a knock on effect on top of kids not being in school. Firstly there's the number of adults not in school too, which is a huge number. Then there's the fact many people with kids have to take holiday time then so there'll be a lot of people taking holidays now as partners or kids are in education. Also there won't be any uni students in at the moment and lots of people's socialising will be outdoors in this great weather. All of that will make a massive difference. On the holiday thing I know of a number of people who are going on hols a bit later in the summer and are avoiding people/socialising so they don't get pinged before they go away. So yeah reckon no schools is a heck of a driver of this but not the sole factor.

 

 

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On 26/07/2021 at 17:46, Blue blood said:

This has a heck of a knock on effect on top of kids not being in school. Firstly there's the number of adults not in school too, which is a huge number. Then there's the fact many people with kids have to take holiday time then so there'll be a lot of people taking holidays now as partners or kids are in education. Also there won't be any uni students in at the moment and lots of people's socialising will be outdoors in this great weather. All of that will make a massive difference. On the holiday thing I know of a number of people who are going on hols a bit later in the summer and are avoiding people/socialising so they don't get pinged before they go away. So yeah reckon no schools is a heck of a driver of this but not the sole factor.

 

 

But haven't they only been off a week, I thought it took longer than that before you saw the effects of it? 

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On 26/07/2021 at 17:50, RoverDom said:

But haven't they only been off a week, I thought it took longer than that before you saw the effects of it? 

That is a very good point! Not sure how quickly you would see the effects, which obviously may or may not suggest there are other factors depending on if the lag is longer (which I suspect it may well be.)  

With all the bubbles that have been off though maybe that's had an effect? A lot of students were off in the weeks before the end of term. Perhaps that has had a significant effect too?

 

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On 26/07/2021 at 17:46, Blue blood said:

This has a heck of a knock on effect on top of kids not being in school. Firstly there's the number of adults not in school too, which is a huge number. Then there's the fact many people with kids have to take holiday time then so there'll be a lot of people taking holidays now as partners or kids are in education. Also there won't be any uni students in at the moment and lots of people's socialising will be outdoors in this great weather. All of that will make a massive difference. On the holiday thing I know of a number of people who are going on hols a bit later in the summer and are avoiding people/socialising so they don't get pinged before they go away. So yeah reckon no schools is a heck of a driver of this but not the sole factor.

 

 

Schools are a driving force but I think it's much more simple. Far less tests were being taken because children aren't having 2x tests a week to simply attend school.  Also, at one point last week, they had run out of postal tests.  

Less tests taken = less potential positives.

 

Regarding tests, this week the CDC have suggested that the PCR test is highly flawed and it cannot differentiate between covid and influenza.  They are withdrawing it from use in December and seeking a more accurate replacement.

With that being the gold standard for everything imposed upon people over the last 16 months, it should worry people and open their eyes to the validity of the high figures that have been forced upon them in order to press ahead with imposing restrictions.

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On 26/07/2021 at 22:47, Pedro said:

Schools are a driving force but I think it's much more simple. Far less tests were being taken because children aren't having 2x tests a week to simply attend school.  Also, at one point last week, they had run out of postal tests.  

Less tests taken = less potential positives.

 

Regarding tests, this week the CDC have suggested that the PCR test is highly flawed and it cannot differentiate between covid and influenza.  They are withdrawing it from use in December and seeking a more accurate replacement.

With that being the gold standard for everything imposed upon people over the last 16 months, it should worry people and open their eyes to the validity of the high figures that have been forced upon them in order to press ahead with imposing restrictions.

Why would anyone want to impose restrictions?

The Tories are in power and they hate them.

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On 27/07/2021 at 08:37, DanLad said:

Why would anyone want to impose restrictions?

The Tories are in power and they hate them.

Exactly Dan.

Johnson has done extremely well to lock the country down as long as he has if the truth be known, against a backdrop of Tory backbencher who hate even the thought of restrictions, never mind imposing them.

I see the right wing press are trying to persuade a nation that the worst is over, infections are falling, throw away the masks, it’s simply not the case in North, the bigger picture is we are struggling and we have Autumn fast approaching. 

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