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56 minutes ago, OnePhilT said:

I see...

Anyway, not really worked out for Nuttall at Blackpool (quick look at his stats say 2 goals in 27 appearances - not sure how many as a sub, but still...). He was banging them in at U23 level here. Thought he'd come to something good.

 

Is that not a step up?  They are after Nugent too after he was released by the  nobbers....Northampton on the march

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1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

cost the dingles 15 million quid and has only played once in two seasons?that tells me he`s either completely **** or has an attitude problem and would`nt  pass the mowbray niceness test

Hasn't got on well with the knuckle draggers?  Get him signed, my type of lad.  Dyche gets on my tits too.

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6 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Hasn't got on well with the knuckle draggers?  Get him signed, my type of lad.  Dyche gets on my tits too.

An odd signing by Dyche that one , one of the new breed of non contact Centre Halves ...

Dyche tends to like old school  stop the other team scoring at all costs ....

My mate tells me , he never really wanted to go there ...

A bit Ike Dann here 

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11 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

An odd signing by Dyche that one , one of the new breed of non contact Centre Halves ...

Dyche tends to like old school  stop the other team scoring at all costs ....

My mate tells me , he never really wanted to go there ...

A bit Ike Dann here 

Dyche doesn’t  know what he really wants , he’s a talker who has got lucky . The man has a ginger disc beard 

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2 hours ago, OnePhilT said:

I see...

Anyway, not really worked out for Nuttall at Blackpool (quick look at his stats say 2 goals in 27 appearances - not sure how many as a sub, but still...). He was banging them in at U23 level here. Thought he'd come to something good.

 

Still find it absolutely amazing some were re writing history on how poor Joe Nuttall was.

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1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

Still find it absolutely amazing some were re writing history on how poor Joe Nuttall was.

Was poor for us in league one and should never have been playing for us at any point in the championship. Good luck to him though. 

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11 hours ago, Inglorious basturk said:

Because if it’s blind optimism you aren’t looking at the bigger picture , you are accepting the flaws and the problems along with the positives , you refuse to see where improvements can be made and subsequently they never will 

But none of that is damaging for a supporter (or anyone). It just means that you always hope for and expect things will turn out alright...if you believe in the law of attraction it means it probably will. But more importantly It means you don’t spend your life being absolutely miserable about anything.

As for the bigger picture, that can be anything you like. Some might see Rovers bigger picture that at some point, soon Venkys will stop pouring cash in and we will be another Bolton or Bury. Those who believe in that ‘bigger picture’ may look to others who seem content and happy and think they’re naive...but what if those who are content and happy actually ‘see’ further than Venkys? Maybe they feel deep down that they’ll still have their club no matter what happens and they believe the club will prosper in the end? Maybe they believe that ultimately as long as they and their loved ones are healthy that nothing else really matters?

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5 minutes ago, rigger said:

The only team Nuttall has shown anything is our under 23s.

But again, he helped our 23's get promotion to the PL2D1, scored a few important goals and was then sold at a higher fee than he was signed for. Decent run all round for everyone involved in my opinion. We helped his career, he helped the club in the short term.

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2 minutes ago, JoeH said:

But again, he helped our 23's get promotion to the PL2D1, scored a few important goals and was then sold at a higher fee than he was signed for. Decent run all round for everyone involved in my opinion. We helped his career, he helped the club in the short term.

In my opinion Nuttall is not as good as what Brereton as shown at the Rovers, which isn’t much. I doubt he will regularly feature at Northampton.

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11 minutes ago, rigger said:

In my opinion Nuttall is not as good as what Brereton as shown at the Rovers, which isn’t much. I doubt he will regularly feature at Northampton.

Yeah but that's no effect on us.  We got the money for him and shipped him out because he wasn't champ standard.  Good business and no skin off our nose whether his career goes straight down the pan or not.

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Seems pretty obvious West Brom are stringing Kipre along. If I was him I'd tell them to do one. 

West Brom mulling move for Cedric Kipre

By Matt Maher | West Bromwich Albion | Published: Less than an hour ago

Albion will weigh up their options before deciding whether to pursue a move for Wigan defender Cedric Kipre.

 
HLU7YM6LO5EZNGAXBJTRYPNK4E.jpg Cedric Kipre of Wigan Athletic blocks a shot from Matheus Pereira of West Bromwich Albion (AMA)

The Baggies have held talks over the 23-year-old and are increasingly confident it is a deal they can get done.

But they are expected to check on other targets before pushing ahead. Blackburn are believed to have agreed a fee of £900,000 for Kipre but the player would prefer a Premier League move and Albion may offer one.

Sporting director Luke Dowling is determined to get the maximum from what is a relatively tight budget as Albion prepare for a top flight return.

In addition to Kipre, talks have also taken place with Brighton over defender Shane Duffy and goalkeeper David Button.

 
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The Seagulls want around £1million for the latter, though the Baggies are hoping to agree a lower fee. Albion will also decide this week whether to push ahead with a move for Watford striker Troy Deeney, while they

remain in discussions with Benfica over another loan deal for midfielder Filip Krovinovic.

Matheus Pereira remains Albion’s only permanent signing since winning promotion in July. It is believed the Baggies have around £20million in total to spend.

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Conor Townsend and Kenneth Zohore are expected to get their first taste of pre-season action after both missed Saturday’s 1-0 defeat to Nottingham Forest through injury.

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3 minutes ago, OnePhilT said:

Wasn't sure if it was really necessary, but the plan is to send Fisher out on loan and find another backup for Kaminski. I thought Fisher would've been ample backup, but what do I know?

 

Ah i think it's the right decision, if the worst happened and Kaminski suffered a bad injury we couldn't be confident with Fisher as our number 1 with another 2 rookies fighting it out for number 2

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20 minutes ago, rigger said:

In my opinion Nuttall is not as good as what Brereton as shown at the Rovers, which isn’t much. I doubt he will regularly feature at Northampton.

Nuttall scored 2 goals in 13 appearances in 13 league one games. he scored 4 goals in 9 cup games. He scored 2 goals in 15 championship league games. Brereton's 2 goals in the Championship have come in 40 games. Nuttall had a better strike rate in our U23s than Brereton had in Forest's. Statistically , Nuttall is the better player. Wheerre Nuttall doesn't score over Brereton is his confidence. Nuttall's confidence was not robust enough to withstand Mowbray's man-management method, Brereton's is.

Nuttall's not likely to succeed at any level, unless he finds an atmosphere that is conducive. I don't see Brereton as currently being Championship standard, though with any player that cost as much as he did, one hopes for the best.

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24 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

Nuttall scored 2 goals in 13 appearances in 13 league one games. he scored 4 goals in 9 cup games. He scored 2 goals in 15 championship league games. Brereton's 2 goals in the Championship have come in 40 games. Nuttall had a better strike rate in our U23s than Brereton had in Forest's. Statistically , Nuttall is the better player. Wheerre Nuttall doesn't score over Brereton is his confidence. Nuttall's confidence was not robust enough to withstand Mowbray's man-management method, Brereton's is.

Nuttall's not likely to succeed at any level, unless he finds an atmosphere that is conducive. I don't see Brereton as currently being Championship standard, though with any player that cost as much as he did, one hopes for the best.

The only thing Nuttall had over Brereton is Joe knew that to score goals you've got to get in and around the 6 yard area. Keep doing that and the goals will come. Of course the rest of the team need to be getting the ball in there in the first place.

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4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

but also ruins debate.

I think this microcosmic over-debated topic of positivity and negativity is a load of crap anyway. I don't think your message is helpful at all though and I'll explain why.

Your message here purports to be about ending a non-helpful conversation and stopping people ruining debate on the message-board, but when you actually look at the beef of your post, you're actually just furthering the argument, making digs at the "positive lot" and claiming to know more etc.

That's fine if that's your prerogative, but to take the moral high ground and say those who criticise your views are ruining debate, whilst continuing to criticise other people's views is baffling to me, as it shows that clearly keeping conversation on track and debate un-ruined isn't your prerogative at all.

"If your creed in life" - already gets us off to a derogatory start.
"good luck to you." - is highly passive aggressive.
"others like to use past experiences and evidence to form their views" - my views are better than your views basically.
"due to cod philosophical views like" - describing others views as not real/not what they claim to be. 

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11 hours ago, K-Hod said:

Still find it absolutely amazing some were re writing history on how poor Joe Nuttall was.

I called it as I saw it from day 1, never good enough. However, he cost us nothing, scored a couple and we sold him for a profit so no harm done.

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56 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Seems pretty obvious West Brom are stringing Kipre along. If I was him I'd tell them to do one. 

West Brom mulling move for Cedric Kipre

By Matt Maher | West Bromwich Albion | Published: Less than an hour ago

Albion will weigh up their options before deciding whether to pursue a move for Wigan defender Cedric Kipre.

 
HLU7YM6LO5EZNGAXBJTRYPNK4E.jpg Cedric Kipre of Wigan Athletic blocks a shot from Matheus Pereira of West Bromwich Albion (AMA)

The Baggies have held talks over the 23-year-old and are increasingly confident it is a deal they can get done.

But they are expected to check on other targets before pushing ahead. Blackburn are believed to have agreed a fee of £900,000 for Kipre but the player would prefer a Premier League move and Albion may offer one.

Sporting director Luke Dowling is determined to get the maximum from what is a relatively tight budget as Albion prepare for a top flight return.

In addition to Kipre, talks have also taken place with Brighton over defender Shane Duffy and goalkeeper David Button. The Seagulls want around £1million for the latter, though the Baggies are hoping to agree a lower fee. Albion will also decide this week whether to push ahead with a move for Watford striker Troy Deeney, while they remain in discussions with Benfica over another loan deal for midfielder Filip Krovinovic.

Genuinely staggering. Medical yesterday. Completed. Player been told to wait whilst WBA work on deals for potentially better players.

He must know sooner or later that he won't be near the 1st team if he signs for them.

Rovers have agreed a fee and also made an offer of contract to player pending a medical. He would be a Rovers player within hours of the medical.

He is a fool if he puts himself through this. Maybe it is better for himself if he calls himself a Premier League footballer but never actually plays rather than a Championship player who actually plays week in week out. Money and profile is key these days.

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5 minutes ago, RovingRover said:

Genuinely staggering. Medical yesterday. Completed. Player been told to wait whilst WBA work on deals for potentially better players.

He must know sooner or later that he won't be near the 1st team if he signs for them.

Rovers have agreed a fee and also made an offer of contract to player pending a medical. He would be a Rovers player within hours of the medical.

He is a fool if he puts himself through this. Maybe it is better for himself if he calls himself a Premier League footballer but never actually plays rather than a Championship player who actually plays week in week out. Money and profile is key these days.

He'd be a Championship player by season after this anyways. No chance West Brom are staying up

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The longer the Kipre situation rumbles on, the less interested I am in signing him.  Not sure exactly who or what is causing such a delay but it just needs sorting one way or another then we can (presumably) just move on - until something is final we're just in limbo and sneaking closer to the start of the season.

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