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1 minute ago, Ossydave said:

And if he did, people would moan we're boring. 

Even with limited ability, the right personnel on the pitch can organise a decent backline. Which for me is the biggest issue. Mowbray can only do so much from the sidelines, you need a keeper who can bark orders and a vocal centre half with experience who can read a game well. Hopefully we've just signed those 2 players but time will tell.

I don't understand this. If we haven't got the right personnel on the pitch, whose fault is that? 3 and a half years remember!

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13 minutes ago, 47er said:

I don't understand this. If we haven't got the right personnel on the pitch, whose fault is that? 3 and a half years remember!

I agree its taken longer than it should (and we still don't know he's got it right yet). 

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9 hours ago, Silas said:

For that to happen one or both of Brereton and Gallagher would have to come good in a big way. 

Which of them do you reckon is firing us to glory? ?

I think we will be in a lot of close wins/draws for the first half of the season, 1-0, 1-1, 2-1, with Armstrong carrying us, then Dack will come back late November and start being the difference. 
As long as we don’t have any big injuries or suspensions we will do well. Travis is a huge loss, we can’t afford another. We have a top-six first 11 and a mid table squad.

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27 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

And if he did, people would moan we're boring. 

Even with limited ability, the right personnel on the pitch can organise a decent backline. Which for me is the biggest issue. Mowbray can only do so much from the sidelines, you need a keeper who can bark orders and a vocal centre half with experience who can read a game well. Hopefully we've just signed those 2 players but time will tell.

Doesn't really hold any water that argument. Managers get replaced by better managers and suddenly the goals against start drying up and the team starts winning - yet the same players are on the pitch. 

Mowbray has decided to play in a way that leaves us open at the back. That is just how it is. He will live or die by how that pans out results-wise this season.

And nobody would complain we were boring if we won 1-0 every week. That's just a silly argument. 

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7 hours ago, Vilesinner said:

Personally even though he is a number 10, I think he is our best target man. Don't mind him playing up front. He needs to be where he can do damage. 9 or 10 imo

Funny how views differ.  Last place I'd play him is target man. Yes he's good as a 10 and I'd have no problem with him in midfield.

The only reason people panic about him going in midfield is because our strikers are crap and don't score enough. 

 

You could never have played Lampard/Gazza etc as strikers.

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22 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Doesn't really hold any water that argument. Managers get replaced by better managers and suddenly the goals against start drying up and the team starts winning - yet the same players are on the pitch. 

Mowbray has decided to play in a way that leaves us open at the back. That is just how it is. He will live or die by how that pans out results-wise this season.

And nobody would complain we were boring if we won 1-0 every week. That's just a silly argument. 

The irony being he's taken the Coyle approach but with a different formation.  At least he looks like finally sorting the defence to give it half a chance if working.  

Just think Travis is a huge loss.  Evans/Johnson/Holtby haven't got the legs.  Need a quality loan in the middle if we want a sniff of playoffs.

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11 hours ago, TruRover said:

Most QPR fans speak very highly of him, both defensively and attacking. From what it sounds like he’ll very much suit our current style of play, which is a massive bonus.

You are very correct when you say he would suit our style of play. Plus a good set pieces taken. 

10 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Is the interest in Manning even confirmed? Even in the LT Manning having been suggested rather than linked on here was seemingly mentioned as a "historic" target with Rich Sharpe saying that he didnt know Mowbrays mystery target.

Obviously Mowbray has history for revisiting former targets so its plausible nonetheless.

Also totally agree that actions speak louder than words. Have to get the season underway tomorrow after 2 losses this week.

Why does the interest have to be confirmed tho? Was that the case before we signed Kaminski or Ayala. 

we been after Manning for a period of time from reports and articles published on football sites. 

Would you be happy with the signing of Ryan Manning if we did sign him? I would be delighted. quality left back and only going to improve.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

We had 15 shots in total. 5 blocked, 8 off target and 2 on target. That’s more than enough to win any Mach if you have your shooting boots on! ??

The thing is mate those stats could have come from a hell of a  lot of our recent games. We don't convert  enough shooting opportunities/chances into goals. There's a reason for that.

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4 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

           Gally

AA        Dack       Dolan

    

I think that might be worth a bash if we had FB's who could cross it to Gally. 

That's what I'd go for.  Similarly, as a 4-3-3 with Dack given a 'free role' in the midfield 3 but a tad deeper.  System is interchangeable during the match - can also be used to go 4-5-1 when needed as well.

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11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

You are very correct when you say he would suit our style of play. Plus a good set pieces taken. 

Why does the interest have to be confirmed tho? Was that the case before we signed Kaminski or Ayala. 

we been after Manning for a period of time from reports and articles published on football sites. 

Would you be happy with the signing of Ryan Manning if we did sign him? I would be delighted. quality left back and only going to improve.

 

 

What style of play is that then ?

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2 minutes ago, Stuart said:

Someone save this quote for April.

Your attitude has changed hugely in the space of a season. ?

Yep — I think the signings we’ve made are great. Kaminski looks good. Ayala as good as anyone in the division. Manning a huge improvement. Nyambe first choice. Garner didn’t come off, but if he’s the sort of midfielder we’re looking for then great. Dack to return with a point to prove. 

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26 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

The thing is mate those stats could have come from a hell of a  lot of our recent games. We don't convert  enough shooting opportunities/chances into goals. There's a reason for that.

Yes - in the whole squad you've only got two real goal scorers (Armstrong, Dack) who are guaranteed to get over 10 a season should they be fit, and only maybe four who have "chip in" status (Johnson, Lenihan, Gallagher, Rothwell). And by chip in I mean will score 3-7 goals.

We've got to get one more player in to the +10 bracket (only candidate for me is Gallagher). And get most of Ayala, Dolan, JRC, Holtby, Buckley into the 3-7 bracket.

If we cant do that we need to bring in another 10+ striker pronto.

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Just now, chaddyrovers said:

do you not watch the games Tyrone?

Well until recently we were trying to become a possession based, play it out from the back, style team. With out much success in my opinion. That appears to have changed with the signing of Ayala and the pursuit of Kipre  Neither of those are noted for their passing ability. None of the existing centre halves at the club are any better in that respect.  My main criticism of Mowbray is that he's never really come up with a way of playing that suits the players we have at the club, most of whom are his signings. It was only the very basic long ball to Graham bringing Dack into play that seemed to work.

I await with baited breath our latest change of style.

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9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

do you not watch the games Tyrone?

Blimey mate.. I mean with me, I point out your inconsistencies most days and probably deserve all I get. 

However I get the sense that Tyrone has been watching Rovers whilst we were still in pampers! Bit cheeky to ask him if he watches Rovers games.

Given 4-3-3 has produced few wins and lots of goals conceded it was hardly an unreasonable question either! 

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