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43 minutes ago, DE. said:

Bell is League 1 standard and will never be any more than that. The lad is 26, he's not going to suddenly become significantly better than he already is at this point. Much like Lenihan people seem to think Bell is a lot younger than he actually is. These players are pretty much coming into their prime years now, development is pretty much done. 

With Bell at LB we will have a massive weakness down that flank the entire season and it will be a huge hindrance. If we signed nobody else at this point other than a decent LB, even on loan, at this point I'd take it. We can make do with the rest (although I'd be pretty worried if Kaminski or Armstrong got injured).

Bang on the money. If signing a good left back means we can’t do any more business then I still wouldn’t be against it. It’s the glaring weakness in our side. I think saying Bell is even league one standard is being very generous as well ?

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Just now, Butty said:

Bang on the money. If signing a good left back means we can’t do any more business then I still wouldn’t be against it. It’s the glaring weakness in our side. I think saying Bell is even league one standard is being very generous as well ?

You're forgetting how atrocious the standard is in that division. Even when we played like crap we won most matches comfortably. From recollection Bell was named in the League 1 team of the season! 

For £250k he's been an OK signing. I've got nothing against the bloke as I think he tries to the best of his ability - it's just not enough to match our ambitions. We need better. 

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3 minutes ago, Butty said:

Bang on the money. If signing a good left back means we can’t do any more business then I still wouldn’t be against it. It’s the glaring weakness in our side. I think saying Bell is even league one standard is being very generous as well ?

Nah, L1 standard is a fair assessment - he was Fleetwood's player of the season.

Much like Mulgrew - v.good in L1, but quickly found out in the Championship. 

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Im not sure why people even think that Bell SHOULD be a good player, the only attribute he has is that he is fairly fast, which is often perhaps the usual thing that causes people that a player well out of his depth COULD step up. 

@chaddyrovers not a positive interview there. Mowbray admitting we have no money is one thing but I hope his delusion around not needing a left back urgently is false.

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45 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

But last season both charlton and Luton worked us over at the beginning of the season. This season we narrowly lost to the promotion favourites after outplaying them and whooped one of the new boys with ease! Test is how we do next week at Derby

Yes I agree, the Rovers of old would like nothing more than to kick start Derby's season.

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14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

source Lancs Live website. From Mowbray during his post match interview

Is there anything you can tell us on Ryan Manning?

"No. That's a name you've just thrown at me. It's not true. I think Ryan Manning is a very good footballer, I imagine QPR are not going to let him walk away.

"We haven't got any money to buy anybody. How much is Ryan Manning going to cross? If you're going to buy a player, you have to buy the player and then you have to give him a salary.

"So I would say there is enough money to buy one player who can help us to get to where we want to be or we could loan two or three players and use that money as salary, which just becomes dead money at your club at the end of the year.

"Our decision is ultimately whether to loan some players who are going to help us in a one-off season or are we going to buy one player who can be ours?

"But then we've got more than one position that we feel we need to strengthen or cover, it's a difficult conundrum for us, somewhere along the line we'll see what falls in place.

"If not, you saw the team today, there is a lot of young players who are doing the job. How young is that team today? It's a pretty young group of footballers who are trying their best and yet I know, and maybe you know as well, that it's very difficult to maintain consistency with seven or eight U23 players in your team all season.

"We would like to strengthen in certain areas or cover in certain areas because we know the games are going to come thick and fast.

"I know exactly to the penny how much we've got but it's probably a couple of loans or a signing, I would suggest, and I'm not sure I'd want to spend it all on Ryan Manning when we've got Amari'i Bell doing ok, so there's other areas I feel we need to strengthen first."

Did someone make this thing up or are these Mowbray’s words?

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So now TM is intimating loans are 'dead money' at the end of the season unless they get you where you want to be and I totally agree with him.

So the question is, what was he doing with the 3 expensive loans last season that probably did 3 million because there was no way we set our stall out to get promoted.

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5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Im not sure why people even think that Bell SHOULD be a good player, the only attribute he has is that he is fairly fast, which is often perhaps the usual thing that causes people that a player well out of his depth COULD step up. 

@chaddyrovers not a positive interview there. Mowbray admitting we have no money is one thing but I hope his delusion around not needing a left back urgently is false.

The other day we were close to a left back he said now no need for a left back we have other areas that need improving and bugger all money.Plus didn't we bid 200k for Pears?All very odd

Only a theory but perhaps Mowbray is willing to sell Nyambe to use some of the fee to bring in a couple as although Costello had a good game very odd Nyambe was dropped

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Think the criticism of @JoeH is a bit unfair as the lad didn’t say at any stage we had signed Manning. Im also struggling to see any areas of the pitch that need improving more than LB. We can’t buy another forward after what we’ve already spent in that area. 

Personally I feel that if we can get a good left back sorted we have had a very good window. However a huge part of that has to be down to the shock that has been Dolan. Now he seems special!

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3 minutes ago, islander200 said:

The other day we were close to a left back he said now no need for a left back we have other areas that need improving and bigger all money.Plus didn't we bid 200k for Pears?All very odd

Only a theory but perhaps Mowbray is willing to sell Nyambe to use some of the fee to bring in a couple as although Costello had a good game very odd Nyambe was dropped

The only theory I can think is that they went back to Ayala with a better offer and have now blown their brains out! ?

So long as we get a LB and a second GK then I feel we can move forwards this season.

Hopefully with sales of King and Raya (which are inevitable imo) then we will have a bit of cash to buy a CM at the back end of the window.

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27 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

"I know exactly to the penny how much we've got but it's probably a couple of loans or a signing, I would suggest, and I'm not sure I'd want to spend it all on Ryan Manning when we've got Amari'i Bell doing ok, so there's other areas I feel we need to strengthen first."

So it's been widely understood that LB was the next target, but now we are only buying one player in total, or loaning two, and there are other areas, plural, that need strengthening first. Which, logically, means we don't intend to get a LB at all unless we get more funds.

I was buzzing until this interview. Worst thing is we really aren't far, and it wouldn't take all that much money in relative terms to have a serious chance of going up this year. But come the end of the season we will have to sell to meet FFP. Depressing.

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Just now, Paul Mani said:

The only theory I can think is that they went back to Ayala with a better offer and have now blown their brains out! ?

So long as we get a LB and a second GK then I feel we can move forwards this season.

Hopefully with sales of King and Raya (which are inevitable imo) then we will have a bit of cash to buy a CM at the back end of the window.

I agree on the Lb and back up Goalkeeper being priority but I don't think the manager does after reading his comments which is fairly worrying

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12 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Mowbray admitting we have no money is one thing but I hope his delusion around not needing a left back urgently is false.

He says we got no money but then says we can bring in 1 permanent signing or a couple of loans. Dont think Mowbray wants to say much about transfers today. 

He says we would know from our number 1 target the answer before today game. So we will see. 

We still need a left back and Back up keeper in

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13 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Think the criticism of @JoeH is a bit unfair as the lad didn’t say at any stage we had signed Manning. Im also struggling to see any areas of the pitch that need improving more than LB. We can’t buy another forward after what we’ve already spent in that area. 

Personally I feel that if we can get a good left back sorted we have had a very good window. However a huge part of that has to be down to the shock that has been Dolan. Now he seems special!

Nobody has criticised Joe from what I’ve seen. Just asked some questions.

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20 minutes ago, islander200 said:

The other day we were close to a left back he said now no need for a left back we have other areas that need improving and bugger all money.Plus didn't we bid 200k for Pears?All very odd

Only a theory but perhaps Mowbray is willing to sell Nyambe to use some of the fee to bring in a couple as although Costello had a good game very odd Nyambe was dropped

I wasnt overly impressed with Rankin Costello, for a natural winger I thought his crossing was really poor, always to the keeper. Seems technically ok but whilst it wasnt shown today he also is obviously not a natural defender.

I can only assume that the meeting went badly, more changing of the goalposts perhaps? As you say, he said we can potentially afford one player for a fee. Warnock said we bid for Pears earlier in the week. We should be spending our fee on a sub goalie.

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3 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Nobody has criticised Joe from what I’ve seen. Just asked some questions.

Absolutely. I also think that if you post something, especially as surefire as that someone has signed, and it turns out to be false, you cant expect to be exempt from a bit of ribbing and questioning. ITK information is always welcome but it doesnt mean that you should be put on a pedestal and have people blow smoke up your arse even if the information is not right. That is just in general, not saying JoeH is wanting that.

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1 minute ago, rovers11 said:

It's strange that TM himself said we were 24 hours away from getting an answer on a new signing...and then no mention of it all today. 

We seem to fall at the final hurdle on many transfers which no doubt stems from our sh*t show of a set up behind the scenes. 

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