Traviscon 285 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: On a third years salary for Ayala? No wonder we're skint If we're including a players wage from the 2022/23 season, in this years budget..... Edited September 20, 2020 by Traviscon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Paul Mani 3310 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, bluebruce said: Yes and the manager's belief in that regard is terrifying. Opinions sure but can you not logically lay out, like I did, why a potential weakness is a bigger concern than a definite weakness? The fact you mostly just told me what the manager believes is making me think you're forming your opinion based on his, you see. Not at all...I was just trying to make sense of what he said. Tbf he watches Fisher etc, he knows whether or not he / they can fill in for Kaminski? My belief is that we need a LB and a GK equally as much. So my opinion appears to be different from yours and the managers...hence why I said ‘opinions’ Either way, what I or you think has no real relevance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JHRover 13163 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Bringing in a few late loans was always in the pipeline as the late solution to recruitment. Why? Because that's what we have done every year and it is how they want to operate. I dont think that's suddenly changed in the last few weeks. Mowbray may want to get permanents but it seems he can't. Still need another GK, CB, LB and CM to come in and not doing so will leave us short. Doing them on loan is just kicking it down the road until next summer when we face the same issues and probably other positions to fill as well if Nyambe walks and we have to sell one or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 10979 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said: Former Everton full back. Been out on loan from them since day dot, just been released at 27. Not played above league one level for yonks. Hopefully we’re after much better. Sorry I was being flippant based on this https://talksport.com/football/724787/everton-carlo-ancelotti-confused-luke-garbutt-released/amp/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderation Lead K-Hod 9939 Posted September 20, 2020 Moderation Lead Share Posted September 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said: Former Everton full back. Been out on loan from them since day dot, just been released at 27. Not played above league one level for yonks. Hopefully we’re after much better. Think the joke went over your head there Gavlar! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone Shoelaces 12614 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Paul Mani said: In the current market Arma is a £20m+ player and if he carries on scoring every week I can see someone bidding that before the end of this window... Dack, even after his injury is worth £10-15m because he’s that good. I wouldn’t be against us selling either so long as there was a plan to buy two or three good players (£2-5m) which would improve us overall. That's what should have happened when Rhodes was sold but that money seemed to vanish. Edited September 20, 2020 by Tyrone Shoelaces Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoochie Bloochie Mama 6311 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tom said: Sorry I was being flippant based on this https://talksport.com/football/724787/everton-carlo-ancelotti-confused-luke-garbutt-released/amp/ Brutal. And he's still got found a club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Mani 3310 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said: That's what should have happened when was sold but that money seemed to vanish. That’s the worry. Though both TM and Swag have talked about ‘selling a Maddison’ and then reinvesting and going up the season after...so fingers crossed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone Shoelaces 12614 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, Paul Mani said: That’s the worry. Though both TM and Swag have talked about ‘selling a Maddison’ and then reinvesting and going up the season after...so fingers crossed That quote seems to have missed out " Rhodes ". I need a new lap top. This one has a mind of it's own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone Shoelaces 12614 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Brutal. And he's still got found a club. Like that right back we had on loan from Chelsea a few years ago. He must have been loaned out to half the football league by now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Mani 3310 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: That quote seems to have missed out " Rhodes ". I need a new lap top. This one has a mind of it's own. Haha tbh you coulda put Hanley, Duffy, Cairney or Rhodes in there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone Shoelaces 12614 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Mercer said: Nail on head. As I posted a few minutes ago, if you never give the lads a chance................................... You only find out if they're good enough to play at a higher level by playing them at that level. Playing with better players can improve a young players game a lot in some instances as we're seeing with Dolan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluebruce 4863 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Brutal. And he's still got found a club. That's surprising considering the ringing endorsement his former manager gave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Wizard Windy Miller 3394 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 We always seem to be 2-3 short each window. Hence mid table finishes. The last few squads you look at and think not really top 6. This time, with a good left back and another couple, we have a genuine shout. Time to go shit or bust. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoochie Bloochie Mama 6311 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, bluebruce said: That's surprising considering the ringing endorsement his former manager gave. who? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rigger 3327 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Paul Mani said: He has to go with the loans unless we get some incoming cash Josh. Because we need a keeper as bad as we need a LB and he’s saying we can only buy one. But we need a left-back to play and a keeper to sit on the bench. My priority would be the left-back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Mani 3310 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, rigger said: But we need a left-back to play and a keeper to sit on the bench. My priority would be the left-back Fair enough. Opinions Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swanson 535 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 "The manager doesn't know that" is a strange quote. "No. That's a name you've just thrown at me. It's not true. I think Ryan Manning is a very good footballer, I imagine QPR are not going to let him walk away. Haven't Mowbray been looking at Manning before ? https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-blackburn-made-deadline-day-bid-to-sign-qpr-23-yr-old/ "A source at Loftus Road has told Football Insider that second-tier rivals Blackburn launched a late bid to sign the versatile Irishman on Friday but that it was swiftly rejected the club." I would imagine he would be cheaper now than he would have been almost a year ago ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaddyrovers 6339 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 11 hours ago, roversfan99 said: U23 is not the same as competitive league football, but my comment was not specifically about him as I have never seen him, I just think considering our problems in that position and his inability to ever make a squad, it is safe to say that he wont be in the managers thoughts in the near future. Dolan had only played under 18's football and look at him now. 8 hours ago, JHRover said: If those are genuinely Mowbray's comments and assuming he has been accurately quoted over the last few weeks then I think he needs testing for drugs because it makes no sense. The only logic behind those comments are that he is trying to dampen expectations and make people believe we are skint as part of his transfer strategy. We have other positions in greater need than LB? Where? What happened to the domino effect and moving onto the next incoming after Ayala? Now we are so hard up that we are having to sacrifice some positions? If so I sure hope Ayala is the missing piece of the jigsaw to make it worthwhile. His comments are completely inconsistent with those he has made previously. why would he been mis-quoted ? Left back is the priority for a next signing then a back up keeper. If you look at his comments he says we got no money and then we got enough for 1 permanent or 2 loan signings. Seems like he didn't want say much on transfers. 3 hours ago, Paul Mani said: Yeah, he’s the obvious one mate and the most likely. I just don’t think they’d let him go right now unless they got silly money - like the Watkins sale...£25m+ I wouldn't be selling Armstrong for any money at all. If he plays the 9 role all season he will take us to the top 6 and possible promotion 1 hour ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said: Said it before, no need to worry about Dack leaving right now. No club will be taking a punt on him for big bucks until they’ve seen him play again. Couple of people on Twitter linking us with Luke Garbutt. Not a bad CV but doesn’t look to have played at a higher level than league one for a good couple of seasons. We can surely do better. Mention Garbutt yesterday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluebruce 4863 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: who? Sorry but I am surprised by this question Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike E 6526 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, bluebruce said: Sorry but I am surprised by this question It's what Ancelotti said about Garbutt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluebruce 4863 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, Mike E said: It's what Ancelotti said about Garbutt. So is what you just quoted me saying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike E 6526 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoochie Bloochie Mama 6311 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Travis is quality, and in a team that wants to press high up the pitch you need Travis energy and tackling ability. We have no-one else like him in the team. When Mogga talks about higher priorities than a LB I'm pretty certain he means CM. A back-up goalie rarely plays. Fisher can do that job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jlee1984 135 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) Mowbray staying in press the other day he’s finding it difficult to get players in on loan who are on 1.5 mill a year, Question I’m asking myself is if we couldn’t afford that utd youngster what quality are these 3 loans going to be, So if he can afford 3 loans surely he could afford Manning on a perm, Is he pulling the wool over our eyes Edited September 20, 2020 by Jlee1984 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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