Popular Post Stuart 16655 Posted October 16, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, EwoodGlory said: They completely fucked it all up, badly advised or whatever, they should have done their own research and some soul searching along the way. It's caused some unforgettable stuff, but, at some stage it would be nice to have all involved as a collective. I guess they have tried to make amends through money At the end of the day we are being backed and splashing the cash on deadline day, while others struggle on. There are no others out there who will back us so why not try and get along They backed Kean AGAINST the fans, and took away our top flight status and our pride while we watched our arch rivals take our place. We are now in nearly £200m of debt and utterly reliant on them. The only people who are happy with Venkys are either under 25 or live at the cobbled end of the M65. They need to take us back to PL midtable to break even and before we start talking about a clean slate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Traviscon 284 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Exactly I know he's gone to a champ side. But he does seem to have been angling for a PL move all summer and this had ended up last gasp. It might be a cheap fee, but wages could be out of our range. He's younger than Douglas, but I don't mind having someone as experienced as him around our younger players. He's also a vast upgrade on Bell imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBTF 984 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: Good end to the window that. Couldn't have gone much better with minimal resources so fair play to Mowbray. Certainly going to be our best chance of top 6 this year. Agree - nagging doubt whether we have the goal power over 46 games out with Armstrong but highly encouraging squad overall . Better than we could have dared to hope for .Let’s hope he knows where to fit them all in ...... in their right positions !!! ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ben_the_beast 618 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said: Maybe Manning didn't want to come to Rovers? Maybe we couldn't afford the wages? Not really fair to blame Mowbray when you don't know the facts. Mate supports QPR. Manning wanted a good old wage rise. They have a strict structure. Fairly similar to us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magicalmortensleftpeg 1500 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Stuart said: They backed Kean AGAINST the fans, and took away our top flight status and our pride while we watched our arch rivals take our place. We are now in nearly £200m of debt and utterly reliant on them. The only people who are happy with Venkys are either under 25 or live at the cobbled end of the M65. They need to take us back to PL midtable to break even and before we start talking about a clean slate. I’m not disagreeing but there are plenty of clubs that would swap owners in a heartbeat right now. Venky’s have done plenty of damage but in the last 2-3 years they’ve haven’t done much wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Mellelieu 755 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, 4000Holes said: Sunderland are a basket case. We are better than Sunderland and I couldn’t care less about them. And we're not a basket case? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Silas 1761 Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 I reckon on paper, factoring in the potential improvement, this could be our best window since 2006/7 when we signed: Benni McCarthy, Chris Samba, Stephen Warnock, Khizanishvili, David Dunn (back), and Andre Ooijer. Basically, last time I was this excited, Dolan and Elliot were still watching Teletubbies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doaksie 1011 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Full strength team, all fully fit, what front 3 do we go for in a play-off final at Wembley when all the chips are in? Elliott-Dack-Arma interchanging? Dolan on for the last 30? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dingles staying down 4ever 697 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just a touched worried that we are getting carried away until tomorrow's team is announced when Evans is the midfielder, Bell is at left back and Sam Gallagher is on the wing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DE. 12097 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Silas said: I reckon on paper, factoring in the potential improvement, this could be our best window since 2006/7 when we signed: Benni McCarthy, Chris Samba, Stephen Warnock, Khizanishvili, David Dunn (back), and Andre Ooijer. Basically, last time I was this excited, Dolan and Elliot were still watching Teletubbies. It really is a reminder of how many disappointing transfer windows we've suffered since the mid-2000s. There wasn't much to get excited about once the Trust pulled the plug on funding, and the vast majority of transfer windows under Venky's have ranged from average to embarrassing. Bowyer turned up a few really solid players but they weren't necessarily players you'd get that excited about at the time they signed for us. This and our summer transfer window in League 1 are probably the two best we've had under Venky's - partially because the incomings weren't predecated on us selling our better players first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matt83 2609 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said: I’m not disagreeing but there are plenty of clubs that would swap owners in a heartbeat right now. Venky’s have done plenty of damage but in the last 2-3 years they’ve haven’t done much wrong. I’m not sure about plenty. Ultimately saying that venkys haven’t done anything wrong in the last few years is like pardoning a serial killer who hasn’t killed recently. Theyve taken a mid table premier league club £20 million ish in debt to a mid table championship club £200 million in debt. That in my opinion will eventually lead to us being the next Bury. Yes we expected crumbs from this transfer window we got a slice of bread but let’s not get carried away. Edited October 16, 2020 by matt83 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magicalmortensleftpeg 1500 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, matt83 said: I’m not sure about plenty. Ultimately saying that venkys haven’t done anything wrong in the last few years is like pardoning a serial killer who hasn’t killed recently. Theyve taken a mid table premier league club £20 million ish in debt to a mid table championship club £200 million in debt. That in my opinion will eventually lead to us being the next Bury. Yes we expected crumbs from this transfer window we got a slice of bread but let’s not get carried away. A serial killer is a touch strong. At least they had £200m to throw at it and bizarrely keep putting money in. I won’t go further down this road. I know I’ll get labelled an apologist for merely suggesting that they’ve done ok for the last 3 years. Let’s enjoy the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike E 6367 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, Silas said: I reckon on paper, factoring in the potential improvement, this could be our best window since 2006/7 when we signed: Benni McCarthy, Chris Samba, Stephen Warnock, Khizanishvili, David Dunn (back), and Andre Ooijer. Basically, last time I was this excited, Dolan and Elliot were still watching Teletubbies. Technically Dunn and Samba were Jan signings that year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roversfan99 8637 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Vilesinner said: I certainly does. They are losing a fortune supporting us. We only need to look at Wigan and Bolton to see what could happen. If they are your standards, not being in administration (the 2 comparisons are totally different situations) and being thankful merely to be in business then fair enough, each to their own I suppose. Mowbray hasnt spent loads of money at all this window, he personally (plus perhaps scouting etc) deserves the praise if deemed that he has utilised his limited resources well to the benefit of the squad. Venkys havent bankrolled a summer splurge of transfers, Mowbray has just utilised the loan, free agent and European markets to improve the squad on a budget. Nor is it this brilliant deed to ultimately have gotten themselves into a position whereby a company they own is making losses that they have to supplement. 1 hour ago, J*B said: The constant berating of Sparks off the back of something he’s been told and shared us pretty dull. He got told something, it didn’t happen, end of story. I would encourage him to post next time he hears something, too. I understand that but I also think that if people post things that arent right, then they shouldnt be untouchable either, as others have said im sure he understands that it is just a bit of joking around, if someone posts a rumour that repeatedly doesnt materialise, I am not sure if it is fair to start intervening as you have threatened if people have a bit of gentle ribbing that the rumour isnt correct, just out of fear that ITK titbits will dry up. Of course it is welcomed but "ITK's" shouldnt surely be treat any differently/favourably? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silas 1761 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mike E said: Technically Dunn and Samba were Jan signings that year Ah, was wondering that. I've just looked at total list. Christ, do I have to go back even further?! Nah, can't be arsed. But you can have some ??? for being so accurate on 14 yr old transfers. Edited October 16, 2020 by Silas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone Shoelaces 12275 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 55 minutes ago, TBTF said: Agree - nagging doubt whether we have the goal power over 46 games out with Armstrong but highly encouraging squad overall . Better than we could have dared to hope for .Let’s hope he knows where to fit them all in ...... in their right positions !!! ? That's my concern as well. We need Gallagher or Brererton to discover where the goals are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
47er 8964 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 hours ago, 1864roverite said: Steptoe you have no idea either. You can't know that can you? We'll wait and see. I will anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
47er 8964 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said: At least they had £200m to throw at it If only they had kept Sam and thrown £200M at it when we were 10th in the Premier League...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TBTF 984 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: That's my concern as well. We need Gallagher or Brererton to discover where the goals are. Which is a barely believable statement Tyrone when they cost us £12million!!! proof of the pudding etc etc I guess but at least I’m not doing my usual deadline day thing of going to sleep in a rage for once ! we can at least say defenders( and keepers) finally came this time . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superniko 644 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mercer said: Yep. A window better than we dared hope for. Kalinski - looks sound though early days Stergiakis - ticks the boxes as a good no 2 ready to challenge for no 1 Pears - don't get at all, IMO, bang average and a four year contract is ridiculous Ayala - steady but brings experience Douglas - shrewd, hope the lad stays fit Trybull - adds to the depth but mystified why Norwich would loan him to us if such a player Dolan - the lad excites me, could be a gem - let's see if he maintains form Elliott - Liverpool friend has just phoned who I rate as as a good judge of football. Reckons Elliott will blow the opposition away and help fire us to PL IMO, top two is there for the taking this season. Confidence and momentum is everything. Providing Mowbray loses his square pegs in round holes syndrome, I think we'll walk it. Just put £150 on Rovers for promotion at 13/2. Good enough for you? Good man Merce! It’s a great bet and I make the true price ~15% and you’re getting 13.3% at 13/2 (maybe you’re shrewder than I took you for ?) I do this professionally but tend to avoid anything too close to Rovers, however i must say I backed 3.6 for top 6 finish today which I make 16% value. It’s a bit early in the season to have too much confidence in my pricing but it’s a double interest at least. I’ve been involved in plenty of bickering on this site over the years, we’re always criticising and wanting the best for Rovers but it’s great on days like today when we have genuine optimism (not like that bollocks Ronaldinho stuff). A great squad, full of players we believe in, full of recruitment we believe in (I don’t want to mention the names of Kean/Appleton/Berg years). Really looking forward to tomorrow, 2020 has been a shitter all round and we deserve this optimism after the last 8 years. See you all in the morning in the Forest chat. COYB Edited October 16, 2020 by superniko Quote Link to post Share on other sites
damo100 71 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 37 minutes ago, 47er said: If only they had kept Sam and thrown £200M at it when we were 10th in the Premier League...... So we could enjoy more of that absolutely awful football we had to put up with? No thanks.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
windymiller7 1372 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) Gotta be honest, I'm buzzing about 3 of the 4 signings. Admittedly I don't know much about Trybull but his missus will do for me ?. Douglas is good from what I've seen, albeit limited. Elliot I'm really excited about. Working in Liverpool, I hear his name a lot so have paid probably more attention than most when he's had a game. Was really surprised with this one as I genuinely thought he'd have a sniff at Liverpool this year. Lòoks like TM has built up a good relationship with Klopp. Mates at work (Reds) are genuinely chuffed he's come to Rovers to get some game time. Thank you Rovers for making a shit day bearable. COYB Edited October 16, 2020 by windymiller7 Spelling of Trybull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
damo100 71 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said: I’m not disagreeing but there are plenty of clubs that would swap owners in a heartbeat right now. Venky’s have done plenty of damage but in the last 2-3 years they’ve haven’t done much wrong. They were also naive and poorly advised by Anderson and co. They've backed the club and lost millions, funded Brockhall to cat one status even in Div one. These past 3 or 4 years they've kept quiet and seemingly allowed football people to run the club properly. I think they've learnt their lesson and moved on, maybe you need to aswell Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garnersfags 369 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) Our surprising (but definite) starting line up this season: Kaminski Nyambe Lenihan Ayala Douglas Holtby Trybull Johnson/Travis Armstrong Dack/Brereton Elliott When fit, Dack will play a No 10 role behind Elliot and Armstrong, or in a flat front 3, with Holtby pushing forward, if Elliott plays more traditional winger role. Edited October 16, 2020 by garnersfags Typo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davefarnworth 106 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 First time I've felt good about my team since 2010. Up to Mowbray with a squad that could go back to the promised land Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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