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Portugal at 9/1 are seemingly not a bad bet to retain the trophy. They have Dias and Cancelo performing brilliantly at Man City, they have some real quality in midfield with Bruno Fernandes, Bernardo Silva and Ruben Neves in midfield, and they have goals in them obviously with the admittedly aging Ronaldo but also with Diogo Jota and Andre Silva. Plus they have experience that has been there and done it in Patricio, Pepe, Moutinho etc.

Belgium will always be one of the favourites and tend to get the better of us but like with us a bit question mark comes in the dug out.

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Just play less internationals full stop, then you don’t have to make up a convoluted competition to replace friendlies. All you need is Qualifiers, a few warm up games before a tournament and the tour

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10 hours ago, roverandout said:

Yes the previous golden generation was sidetracked by club allegiance.  This group don't seem to have that.  We are more than good enough to win something.  Outside of France its anyone's between England Portugal Belgium.  I don't see Italy being good enough.  Germany don't have enough depth.  Spain are pretty average right now.  Holland lack in so many areas. I wouldn’t swap our attacking options for ANYONE.  I think this euro might be a bit too early but semi final is definitely realistic 

never write the germans off

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"This tournament has come too early for this squad" has been said before every tournament since 2014 then two years later some players have dropped off and some more talent has emerged. 

So I'm hoping that only having a 1 year gap between euros and World Cup may give us half a chance of keeping the same group of players together and firing. 

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England U21's struggles in their championship has surprised me - as someone who doesn't really follow that team but noticed that they seemed to have a strong squad. I wonder to what extent it is a case of other teams have superior (though, less hyped) players and England under-performing?

Aside from the striking position, where Nketiah has not been prolific at club level, though in qualifying, he has scored a lot, it seemed as if England had a team full of proven club experience. That said, I don't know about the standard of their opposition.

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1 minute ago, riverholmes said:

England U21's struggles in their championship has surprised me - as someone who doesn't really follow that team but noticed that they seemed to have a strong squad. I wonder to what extent it is a case of other teams have superior (though, less hyped) players and England under-performing?

Too many think they’ve got it made already. They’re on easy street. Having a decent coach would help though.

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1 hour ago, riverholmes said:

England U21's struggles in their championship has surprised me - as someone who doesn't really follow that team but noticed that they seemed to have a strong squad. I wonder to what extent it is a case of other teams have superior (though, less hyped) players and England under-performing?

Aside from the striking position, where Nketiah has not been prolific at club level, though in qualifying, he has scored a lot, it seemed as if England had a team full of proven club experience. That said, I don't know about the standard of their opposition.

Down to boothroyd completely.  Hes like the under 21 version of Mowbray.  Clueless.  Its an outstanding squad

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14 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

defensively england are very poor and will always be caught out when playing against the best,our defensive capability ended with rio,terry,cole and neville,there has`nt been an england defender iv`e trusted since the the above all retired,kyle walker especially should`nt be anywhere near the national side,he`s a liabilty who can`t work out when to  go forward or stay back

Stones is back to his best. Walker is still an able defender but should be at fullback.  I see a new breed of young defenders coming through.  Konsa tomori gomez gheui White.  

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1 hour ago, riverholmes said:

England U21's struggles in their championship has surprised me - as someone who doesn't really follow that team but noticed that they seemed to have a strong squad. I wonder to what extent it is a case of other teams have superior (though, less hyped) players and England under-performing?

Aside from the striking position, where Nketiah has not been prolific at club level, though in qualifying, he has scored a lot, it seemed as if England had a team full of proven club experience. That said, I don't know about the standard of their opposition.

One credible defence is a lot of their best players are now in the first team - TAA, Rice, Saka, Sancho, Bellingham, Mount.

Not sure is that's the same elsewhere in Europe or we are particularly aggressive at promoting players.

It seems when the players get a senior cap they aren't asked to step down again.

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1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Too many think they’ve got it made already. They’re on easy street. Having a decent coach would help though.

Reading in The Times today that Boothroyd is more worried about being liked than pushing the players. Obviously not an issue when they stroll through qualifiers, but they get repeatedly shown up in tournaments. 

I presume he’ll be on his bike by the weekend...
 

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2 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

Does anyone actually get excited when Sterling is on the ball? 

Well he's beaten his man half a dozen times and won a penalty so he's not doing too badly...

But yes final ball has been poor. If he'd been better we would have scored another one or two.

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Rice has been excellent again.  Phillips is dreadful.  Poland want to be taken seriously without lewondovski they need to be more adventurous.  They're garbage 

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10 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

Does anyone actually get excited when Sterling is on the ball? 

Sterling is magic when he's running at defenders but he can be far too lapsidasical 

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Running with the ball / running at someone he's class but I have no expectation that he'll do anything with it. He either over thinks and holds onto it far too long or fluffs a shot or cross. 

Few years  off yet but when his pace goes he's finished 

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3 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Classic Stones... Can't afford madness like that at international level.

I wouldn't accept that sort of mistake at Alehouse level

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5 minutes ago, matt83 said:

The euro 2021 favourites have been poor this half. But like rovers flatter to deceive with pointless possession. 

How can we be favourites? We're not bad, but obviously some European teams better than us.

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