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Rovers are after Ben Sheaf. Dont know alot about him. Currently on loan from Arsenal at Coventry. Young, CM, keeps the ball ticking over.  Played 29 times this season in the champ before getting injured, now fit but Coventry wont play him as agreement in place that they will pay a fee to take him perm when he hits a certain amount of apperances. Contract expries May 2021. Potential free transfer, young, cheapish wages, championship experience.

Room for growth.

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Honestly I'm at a point where I just can't get excited about new signings as long as Mowbray is in charge. Even if the signee appears impressive I already know his impact will be neutered by Mowbray's

Hi all. Would like to thank anyone and everyone who has given my work a read over the last few days. As you can probably tell it took a very long time to do and a lot of late nights around my full tim

Fast forwards 12 months.... 'We lost the quality of Holtby and the goals of Armstrong last summer along with the regular right back and the experience of Johnson.  It's a sad day for the club but

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6 hours ago, bluebruce said:

....yes. We had two. It would be foolish to go through the season with one.

 

we haven't had one left-back this season

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6 hours ago, bluebruce said:

I'm a bit surprised at Bell as the LT seemed to think he was being offered one, but clearly they got it wrong.

I suppose this means we are either intending to offer Douglas a contract which I hope not, or we are dipping into the market for another LB.

Well the rumour seems to be he's turned it down because more is being offered elsewhere.

Not sure whether that sends a good message or bad one but if they are sticking to their guns, saying we only rate you at X amount per week that's fair enough.

 

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8 minutes ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

Don't think we will sign anybody until after Arma has actually departed and the numbers have been crunched by Cheston.

Until then we are under a transfer embargo.

 

Freebies and loans at max 10k pwk will still be a goer i would have though. 

Seems like they might be cutting or culling all those on that or more to come into line with it anyway.

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6 hours ago, DeeCee said:

Typical Mowbray, Johnson was past it when we signed him, plays decent 1 game in 4 and only plays every 3rd game, another on 10k plus a week, absolute shambles!

Agreed.

Absolute disgrace if Johnson gets a new deal, ditto Bennett.

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1 hour ago, callumrovers said:

Rovers are after Ben Sheaf. Dont know alot about him. Currently on loan from Arsenal at Coventry. Young, CM, keeps the ball ticking over.  Played 29 times this season in the champ before getting injured, now fit but Coventry wont play him as agreement in place that they will pay a fee to take him perm when he hits a certain amount of apperances. Contract expries May 2021. Potential free transfer, young, cheapish wages, championship experience.

Room for growth.

Plays for errrrm Coventry. Who'd have thought it?

Wonder who Warnock wants shut of this summer? Let's hope Mowbray is gone before he gets the chance to palm off his latest round of cast offs on us.

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According to a friend in Italy we've been offered a 6 ft 6 Nigerian centre forward Simy Nwankwo who plays for Crotone in Serie A for 800,000 Euros.

Crotone were relegated but the player scored 19 goals, only 2 less than Lukaku. Mowbray wasn't interested apparently.

Seems a fairly low risk punt at that price. Perhaps his Coventry/Boro connections weren't strong enough.

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8 hours ago, bluebruce said:

I'm a bit surprised at Bell as the LT seemed to think he was being offered one, but clearly they got it wrong.

I suppose this means we are either intending to offer Douglas a contract which I hope not, or we are dipping into the market for another LB.

Maybe Bell wants to play football?

He's been alienated by our manager since January. A few token games at the end of the season before desperately offering him a contract extension because you can't be arsed to find anyone better maybe isn't the golden ticket he's after?

Fair play to him if he's told Tombola to fuck off.

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2 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Jaquob has confirmed Johnson is staying - absolutely baffling he's been woeful.

I’d rather take a chance on an up and coming younger player from lower down the league to be honest. Some work out and some don’t but Johnson is on the downhill slide now.

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1 hour ago, yeti-dog said:

The problem with keeping Bennett is that although he's versatile he's just not very good at all the things he's versatile at.

Get rid.

That's the problem though when you are the gaffers love child it was the same with Lowe.  They'll keep trying to fit you in somewhere just because you are good to have around.

If Bennett was used properly, not regularly, just properly in his real positions he'd probably still serve a purpose.  I agree the time is right to cut him loose but we are going to be very light on any experience next season.

Mowbray/Venus/Lowe/Benson and a bag full of kids being rotated weekly is relegation guaranteed imo.

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2 hours ago, callumrovers said:

Rovers are after Ben Sheaf. Dont know alot about him. Currently on loan from Arsenal at Coventry. Young, CM, keeps the ball ticking over.  Played 29 times this season in the champ before getting injured, now fit but Coventry wont play him as agreement in place that they will pay a fee to take him perm when he hits a certain amount of apperances. Contract expries May 2021. Potential free transfer, young, cheapish wages, championship experience.

Room for growth.

Where is this from?

I dont remember seeing him play, looking online, Coventry fans dont seem to particularly want him back, suggesting that he gives the ball away at times dithering in front of the defence, and that he seems not to have really matured from the sanitised under 23 environment. Here is a thread on him:

https://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/ben-sheaf-future.131648/

His future seems to be a bit of a mystery, Coventry had an obligation to buy clause in his contract, so the fact that they presumably want to get out of that doesnt bode well, and surely means that he is still under contract at Arsenal if a fee was set to change hands. Plus he has suffered a bad injury. Strange one.

 

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I think where we are up to is that those players willing to accept more of the same - another 12 months at the same or less salary - will hang about. So Johnson will come into that category.

The others - Evans, Bell and more to come - will be getting advised that they can get more than 1 year elsewhere which is why they will be leaving.

Doesn't bode well that's all I can say.

No way would Mowbray be allowed any input into contracts at this juncture if he was leaving.

Shame because I was looking forward to being back watching games.

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15 minutes ago, JHRover said:

 

Shame because I was looking forward to being back watching games.

Do not let one man ruin something for you. If the last 12 months has taught us anything it is not to take anything for granted. In modern times there are no guarantees Rovers will be here in the next 10 years. 

Boycotting does not work with owners that are not interested in the thoughts of fans. 

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3 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Do not let one man ruin something for you. If the last 12 months has taught us anything it is not to take anything for granted. In modern times there are no guarantees Rovers will be here in the next 10 years. 

Boycotting does not work with owners that are not interested in the thoughts of fans. 

It isn't one man though, it's 3, plus inadequate staff throughout and owners that couldn't care less.

The trust has long gone and the only way that gets repaired is if one or preferably all of the 3 stooges depart.

Admittedly my anger goes well beyond football and results. In normal conditions I might forgive/forget the horrendous results and performances and put it to the back of my mind when renewal time comes.

But after the training ground stunt and blackmail of fans over the last 12 months too many bridges have been burned and I simply can't justify offering any level of support to these charlatans who are not acting in the interest of the club and are not worthy of the positions they occupy.

My position might change but i think it is very unlikely. I also won't allow them to guilt trip me further. If the club is in danger of insolvency then the wages of Waggott, Mulgrew and co. need to go first.

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1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Where is this from?

I dont remember seeing him play, looking online, Coventry fans dont seem to particularly want him back, suggesting that he gives the ball away at times dithering in front of the defence, and that he seems not to have really matured from the sanitised under 23 environment. Here is a thread on him:

https://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/ben-sheaf-future.131648/

His future seems to be a bit of a mystery, Coventry had an obligation to buy clause in his contract, so the fact that they presumably want to get out of that doesnt bode well, and surely means that he is still under contract at Arsenal if a fee was set to change hands. Plus he has suffered a bad injury. Strange one.

 

Apologies, when I say free, I mean his contract ends as of May 2021. We will still need to pay compensation to Arsenal via a tribunal if we did sign him... Unless we sort out a fee with Arsenal prior (wont be alot.) 

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33 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I think where we are up to is that those players willing to accept more of the same - another 12 months at the same or less salary - will hang about. So Johnson will come into that category.

The others - Evans, Bell and more to come - will be getting advised that they can get more than 1 year elsewhere which is why they will be leaving.

Doesn't bode well that's all I can say.

No way would Mowbray be allowed any input into contracts at this juncture if he was leaving.

Shame because I was looking forward to being back watching games.

Good point 

Think its looking like he's staying 

A lot of spoof on here from "ITKS". Should "IDK" , as in I don't know. 

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8 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Do not let one man ruin something for you. If the last 12 months has taught us anything it is not to take anything for granted. In modern times there are no guarantees Rovers will be here in the next 10 years. 

Boycotting does not work with owners that are not interested in the thoughts of fans. 

How many Clubs having had bad owners have actually disappeared completely?

How many Clubs of Rovers stature and history have actually disappeared completely?

Meanwhile Clubs in Leagues below us with little or no history continue to be bought.

The only way we disappear is if Vs force it that way whilst ignoring other options.

They are a mean spirited spiteful family so that could happen.

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4 minutes ago, callumrovers said:

Apologies, when I say free, I mean his contract ends as of May 2021. We will still need to pay compensation to Arsenal via a tribunal if we did sign him... Unless we sought out a fee with Arsenal prior (wont be alot.) 

Where is this information from? I saw since that @J*B put similar on twitter but was unsure if either of you posted based on the other, or have heard it seperately.

If true, sounds a little underwhelming based on his spells at Doncaster and Coventry, and perhaps a cheap replacement for Evans. His supposed style and weaknesses make him sound like a Johnson lite version!

Low fee signings of young players from big teams do make sense in theory although I suppose the Davenport deal hasnt really worked out and it has a lot of similarities.

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42 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I reckon Ben Sheaf is an analyst signing if I'm honest. 

Seems an odd dig at the analysts with no evidence. Surely the fact he plays at Coventry points more to this being a Mowbray deal?

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1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

Low fee signings of young players from big teams do make sense in theory although I suppose the Davenport deal hasnt really worked out and it has a lot of similarities.

I think at £250,000 with some add-ons, the Davenport deal has plenty of time to look great in the future. He looked good the other day and could continue to grow. Unlike BB and SG he doesn't have a stupid money move hanging over him. 

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