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I have a likely stupid question.

When a manager "resigns" before his contract expires, is he actually in breach of contract and therefore due to pay compensation to the club that he's contracted to? Or potentially face legal action by the club, perhaps?

When I see the term "resign", I mostly think of packing in a full-time job, e.g. "I'm sick of dealing with my idiot boss, I quit!". But is that how it works with managerial (or player) contracts?

For example, if Mowbray said "I've had enough of myself! I quit!", but let's say Venkys were outraged because they felt he was the long term future of the club ( 🤔 ), could Venkys go to town on Mowbray and claim "loss of projected losses earnings"? As in, is the contract a guarantee on both sides with financial recompense if one or the other breaks it? Or is it more like a full-time employment contract?

On the other hand, I reckon when managers walk away from a contract, maybe the club doesn't care 90% of the time, or is possibly relieved.

I've followed football for a long time, and I'm embarrassed to ask, but I'd love some enlightenment. 🤗

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1 hour ago, Meesh said:

I have a likely stupid question.

When a manager "resigns" before his contract expires, is he actually in breach of contract and therefore due to pay compensation to the club that he's contracted to? Or potentially face legal action by the club, perhaps?

When I see the term "resign", I mostly think of packing in a full-time job, e.g. "I'm sick of dealing with my idiot boss, I quit!". But is that how it works with managerial (or player) contracts?

For example, if Mowbray said "I've had enough of myself! I quit!", but let's say Venkys were outraged because they felt he was the long term future of the club ( 🤔 ), could Venkys go to town on Mowbray and claim "loss of projected losses earnings"? As in, is the contract a guarantee on both sides with financial recompense if one or the other breaks it? Or is it more like a full-time employment contract?

On the other hand, I reckon when managers walk away from a contract, maybe the club doesn't care 90% of the time, or is possibly relieved.

I've followed football for a long time, and I'm embarrassed to ask, but I'd love some enlightenment. 🤗

There is the option of the club putting him.om garden leave for the remainder of his contract to ensure he doesn't work for a competitor.  More often than not they agree a severance and 6 months garden leave.  In our case I'd gladly drive him to our competitors. 

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This was in Steve Kean's contract (see below in bold). Presumably if he's doing a bad job and it would cost to sack him, they come to some kind of mutual agreement. I suspect that's why you hear the term "mutually agreed" in relation to a manager leaving a club more often than "resigned". 

15.2 In the event that the Manager shall, at any time, wish to be released early from
this Agreement the Club shall grant his request only if the Manager, prior to any
release, compensates the Club or procures the payment of compensation to the
Club by way of liquidated damages in a sum equal to twelve (12) months’ gross
basic salary as enjoyed by the Manager at the applicable time.

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@LeftWingerWhere is that from? My Googling skills aren't what they used to be.

That's interesting. So it's pretty much like a freelance contract. The compensation works both ways. Paul Lambert must have counted his lucky stars that he set up an early release clause.

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3 hours ago, Meesh said:

@LeftWingerWhere is that from? My Googling skills aren't what they used to be.

That's interesting. So it's pretty much like a freelance contract. The compensation works both ways. Paul Lambert must have counted his lucky stars that he set up an early release clause.

Someone leaked his contract amongst other documents. I've got a copy in my emails. 

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On 25/03/2021 at 22:23, Meesh said:

I have a likely stupid question.

When a manager "resigns" before his contract expires, is he actually in breach of contract and therefore due to pay compensation to the club that he's contracted to? Or potentially face legal action by the club, perhaps?

When I see the term "resign", I mostly think of packing in a full-time job, e.g. "I'm sick of dealing with my idiot boss, I quit!". But is that how it works with managerial (or player) contracts?

For example, if Mowbray said "I've had enough of myself! I quit!", but let's say Venkys were outraged because they felt he was the long term future of the club ( 🤔 ), could Venkys go to town on Mowbray and claim "loss of projected losses earnings"? As in, is the contract a guarantee on both sides with financial recompense if one or the other breaks it? Or is it more like a full-time employment contract?

On the other hand, I reckon when managers walk away from a contract, maybe the club doesn't care 90% of the time, or is possibly relieved.

I've followed football for a long time, and I'm embarrassed to ask, but I'd love some enlightenment. 🤗

The simplistic answer is that, what can be construed as ‘normal’ in every aspect of business life, contractual and employment law, does not appear to apply in the world of professional football in the UK.

No KPIs that are enforceable exist, Performance reviews, appraisal analyses against agreed criteria and corrective action or potential disciplinary for poor performance etc...you’re having a laugh!

Pro football in UK is a gravy train for those that are in it: shit at your job? Who cares?...get sacked, contract term paid off, spend 6 months in Dubai and when you’ve had your fill there, there’s always some other mug club to take you on on even better terms than you had previously.

Yeh, Mowbray will be shitting himself...not!

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