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2 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Nyambe is a very good defender one-one-one and would probably put the likes of Trent Alexander-Arnold to shame (maybe a stretch but you get the point!). But TAA can ping a 50 yard crossfield pass on someone's toe, smash a free kick in for 30 yards and has all the skills of a Brazilian wide midfielder from the 70's. Nyambe obviously can't. The FB role has changed.

Because Mowbray effectively copied Liverpool's system this season he'll want at TAA rather than a Nyambe at FB. JRC is probably the closest he's got as he's technically better than Nyambe and uses the ball better. But he's not a patch on Nyambe defensively.

Horses for courses. Liverpool don't need FB's who can defend as they are set up to win the ball back before it gets near their defence. They want FB's who can create and score like TAA. I'm not sure Rovers can afford that luxury.

Interesting that Pickering looks very similar in style to Andy Robertson from the few video clips I've seen - very attacking, very direct.

As for Mowbray, he very much sees himself as a cutting-edge, modern coach. The dinosaur jibes aren't really accurate. He's more like a Klopp fanboy who tries to copy everything Klopp does. Mowbray strives for credibility by association, he drops the right names and uses all the modern football lingo. He just isn't very good at getting results. 

 

good point,i think he identifies himself more on pep than klopp,but it`s the same result,he is`nt a good enough coach to communicate his team shape,hence thats why we are were we are and it will stay the same until they chop the conceited ****,i really don`t like him anymore

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For me, after the play off dream disappeared post Christmas, the only thing I cared about was finishing above Preston. When we beat them 3-0 at their place we demonstrated how superior we should be to

23 points off the top 6. Get out Mowbray, you fraud.

I'm going rogue here   I want Rotherham to win. I want Derby to go down and Mowbray doesn't deserve any pointless end of season gloss.  I don't even feel guilty  Having said that we wil

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3 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

It isn't. It's in line with his general offensive play. Assists practically non existent too. He's a good defender, but over hyped on here and excused with claims that it's Mowbrays fault he hasn't improved. 

I would describe Nyambe more in terms of a good recoverer of his own mistakes. If he didn't make the mistakes in the first place he would be an excellent defender.

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2 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Nyambe is a very good defender one-one-one and would probably put the likes of Trent Alexander-Arnold to shame (maybe a stretch but you get the point!). But TAA can ping a 50 yard crossfield pass on someone's toe, smash a free kick in for 30 yards and has all the skills of a Brazilian wide midfielder from the 70's. Nyambe obviously can't. The FB role has changed.

Because Mowbray effectively copied Liverpool's system this season he'll want at TAA rather than a Nyambe at FB. JRC is probably the closest he's got as he's technically better than Nyambe and uses the ball better. But he's not a patch on Nyambe defensively.

Horses for courses. Liverpool don't need FB's who can defend as they are set up to win the ball back before it gets near their defence. They want FB's who can create and score like TAA. I'm not sure Rovers can afford that luxury.

Interesting that Pickering looks very similar in style to Andy Robertson from the few video clips I've seen - very attacking, very direct.

As for Mowbray, he very much sees himself as a cutting-edge, modern coach. The dinosaur jibes aren't really accurate. He's more like a Klopp fanboy who tries to copy everything Klopp does. Mowbray strives for credibility by association, he drops the right names and uses all the modern football lingo. He just isn't very good at getting results. 

 

This is the most beautiful post I've ever seen. You've Vulcan mind-melded with thousands all at once.

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Just now, Meesh said:

This is the most beautiful post I've ever seen. You've Vulcan mind-melded with thousands all at once.

I've not Vulcan mind-melded with you enough though to know if you're taking the p1ss😉

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2 minutes ago, Meesh said:

This is the most beautiful post I've ever seen. You've Vulcan mind-melded with thousands all at once.

My mind used to meld in the Vulcan.

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9 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

It isn't. It's in line with his general offensive play. Assists practically non existent too. He's a good defender, but over hyped on here and excused with claims that it's Mowbrays fault he hasn't improved. The modern full back role has changed and he is missing a lot of the stuff necessary to be a top championship one 

If what you are saying is correct and a daft blanket statement like “The modern fullback role has changed” is true, then Nyambe’s coaching has obviously been wrong since day 1 and he should probably have been a centre back.

I think it’s far more a case of there are about a dozen full backs in world football who play for a handful of really good teams who provide a lot more of an attacking threat than the other 70% of fullbacks who just do their actual job. There is also about 20% of fullbacks who fall victim to managers chasing fads and employing confused tactics - this is where Nyambe fits in.

“Hasn’t improved” is bollocks. His assist numbers have gone up this year, although assists aren’t on xG levels of nonsense stats, they aren’t great either. A player could dribble from his own goalmouth the full length of the pitch, beating every player twice and hit the post. Someone tucks the rebound away, but nobody credited with the assist.

Everybody has different opinions on players, and that’s all part and parcel. However, some of our fans have had a downer on Nyambe since day one and will never change their opinion. There’s another significant number who have the really odd mindset of slating him because they believe Mowbray doesn’t rate him. Loads of examples on here and other sites.

Oh, and the piss poor goal returns of our 5 and 7 million forwards are far more of a concern than the fact Nyambe has not scored.

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3 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

If what you are saying is correct and a daft blanket statement like “The modern fullback role has changed” is true, then Nyambe’s coaching has obviously been wrong since day 1 and he should probably have been a centre back.

I think it’s far more a case of there are about a dozen full backs in world football who play for a handful of really good teams who provide a lot more of an attacking threat than the other 70% of fullbacks who just do their actual job. There is also about 20% of fullbacks who fall victim to managers chasing fads and employing confused tactics - this is where Nyambe fits in.

“Hasn’t improved” is bollocks. His assist numbers have gone up this year, although assists aren’t on xG levels of nonsense stats, they aren’t great either. A player could dribble from his own goalmouth the full length of the pitch, beating every player twice and hit the post. Someone tucks the rebound away, but nobody credited with the assist.

Everybody has different opinions on players, and that’s all part and parcel. However, some of our fans have had a downer on Nyambe since day one and will never change their opinion. There’s another significant number who have the really odd mindset of slating him because they believe Mowbray doesn’t rate him. Loads of examples on here and other sites.

Oh, and the piss poor goal returns of our 5 and 7 million forwards are far more of a concern than the fact Nyambe has not scored.

Calm down man, you're getting a bit aggressive I feel. Is everything ok? 

He's a good defender, hasn't shown enough going forward to be a top championship full back Your comment about 70% of full backs doing their job and only a handful being good enough for the top clubs is "bollox". There are far better and more well rounded full backs at clubs in this division, let alone further up accross all clubs in the premier League. 

Also your comment about him being a centre half is also unadulterated bollox ,because he is pretty weak in the air. 

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1 minute ago, WacoRover said:

Getting ready in Texas for the game. It’s 8:10 AM here, 2nd cup of Java, & blueberry scones.

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Those scones look good, but there was no need to do that to them.

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29 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

It isn't. It's in line with his general offensive play. Assists practically non existent too. He's a good defender, but over hyped on here and excused with claims that it's Mowbrays fault he hasn't improved. The modern full back role has changed and he is missing a lot of the stuff necessary to be a top championship one 

Whilst assists isn't a statistic that I go massively on it is simply untrue to say that assists for Nyambe are practically non existent. He has 4 assists this season, Roberts at Swansea is the only right back in the division to have more assists.

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34 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

It isn't. It's in line with his general offensive play. Assists practically non existent too.

I'm not sure how many times this needs repeating, but whilst Nyambe hasn't been good enough on the assists front previously, this season he has 4 assists this season, which is the joint-third highest at the club, and has played in 3-4 less games than those equal and above him for that stat.

Personally think he has been unlucky not to have more. Once you put the ball on a plate for someone it's not your fault if they squander it.

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Just now, Sparks Rover said:

No Lemon Drizzle, Waco?

He he!

I need to clue the wife on Tony’s favorite treats. Maybe a “fare thee well, Tony” meal, at seasons end? 

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6 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Calm down man, you're getting a bit aggressive I feel. Is everything ok? 

He's a good defender, hasn't shown enough going forward to be a top championship full back Your comment about 70% of full backs doing their job and only a handful being good enough for the top clubs is "bollox". There are far better and more well rounded full backs at clubs in this division, let alone further up accross all clubs in the premier League. 

Also your comment about him being a centre half is also unadulterated bollox ,because he is pretty weak in the air. 

Aggressive? Really?

Read what I said about him being a centre half again. If you still don’t get the point I will explain.

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3 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

Whilst assists isn't a statistic that I go massively on it is simply untrue to say that assists for Nyambe are practically non existent. He has 4 assists this season, Roberts at Swansea is the only right back in the division to have more assists.

Is that right? I stand corrected if so. 

It feels like he hasn't had 4 in his career before this season. 

 

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Just now, Miller11 said:

Aggressive? Really?

Read what I said about him being a centre half again. If you still don’t get the point I will explain.

He isn't good enough in the air for centre half. You can't reach that 

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3 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

I'm not sure how many times this needs repeating, but whilst Nyambe hasn't been good enough on the assists front previously, this season he has 4 assists this season, which is the joint-third highest at the club, and has played in 3-4 less games than those equal and above him for that stat.

Personally think he has been unlucky not to have more. Once you put the ball on a plate for someone it's not your fault if they squander it.

Yes, one of the leagues better right backs.  Off he goes, Mowbray has took the piss out of him.  Benno,  Bucko,  etc ahead of him....not fit to lace his boots

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Whilst I understand the decision to stick with most of the same squad from the good result against Huddersfield (though would personally have liked to see us actually build for the future as promised), the one change seems daft. Johnson for Evans. Firstly, Evans actually had a fairly good game last time out. Secondly, Johnson isn't that great at the same role, assuming that's the intention rather than dropping Travis in there. But thirdly and mostly, it should blatantly be Davenport who gets the nod there, especially with Johnson out of contract and the age difference.

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