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v QPR (a) - 19/10/21


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The loans this season just look a bit desperate as in 'what can you give us for nowt in return for games'.

We got a bit spoiled with Tosin, Elliot, THB but now it's a cheaper step down from them. At least you'd hope they are cheap but knowing this club we are probably still spaffing good money on some of them.

It wouldn't be so bad if they were back up to our own but football messiah Mowbray is actually trying to conjor up formations for them. At the same time in doing this he's wasting our own attacking talent in favor of them being deployed just to stop the opposition.

A point would've been handy last night but that wouldn't change the general concerns nor the poor efforts on show.

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30 minutes ago, arbitro said:

So it's Venky's Out now then?👍👍

It always has been from the very first day that hasn’t changed and nor will it change their running of this great club has been nothing short of diabolical incompetence

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11 minutes ago, tomphil said:

It wouldn't be so bad if they were back up to our own but football messiah Mowbray is actually trying to conjor up formations for them. At the same time in doing this he's wasting our own attacking talent in favor of them being deployed just to stop the opposition.

It’s what he’s known for doing.

It was frustrating to see him tinker with the team/formation “trying to nullify the opposition” in League 1 against clearly inferior teams. He could get away with it in that league and he’s not bright enough to figure out he can’t do it in this league.

He was just as much an idiot doing it back then but he had the luxury of having a very good league 1 side at the time to cover up his mistakes.

 

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17 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

It always has been from the very first day that hasn’t changed and nor will it change their running of this great club has been nothing short of diabolical incompetence

Really keen to hear about these positive changes afoot, currently see nothing positive from a footballing stand point? 

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4 minutes ago, booth said:

It’s what he’s known for doing.

It was frustrating to see him tinker with the team/formation “trying to nullify the opposition” in League 1 against clearly inferior teams. He could get away with it in that league and he’s not bright enough to figure out he can’t do it in this league.

He was just as much an idiot doing it back then but he had the luxury of having a very good league 1 side at the time to cover up his mistakes.

 

Yes it's an achiles heel of his all along and at times it makes no sense but he just lacks ambition i guess.

Last season we'd probably have had 65% possession, 2 shots on goal and lost 0-1. 

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27 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

It always has been from the very first day that hasn’t changed and nor will it change their running of this great club has been nothing short of diabolical incompetence

Well please stop posting about other clubs who have been through the mill and are now better for getting rid of poor owners in some comparison to us and where we might be without that lot. By doing so I interpret that as you putting up some defence of Venkys because they are still putting money in.

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I can’t imagine Mowbray will know where to start after that performance.  It wasn’t just an off day. Individual performances were very, very poor, up front we posed no threat whatsoever, midfield was completely awful and the back four were anything but convincing. We couldn’t maintain any shape, we couldn’t lay a tackle on a rather boring QPR side.

If you look in any old programme and look at the relegation seasons, you’ll  see the squads and realise how poor they were. I suspect we might be doing that in a few years when we look back at this seasons programmes.

 

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1 minute ago, den said:

If you look in any old programme and look at the relegation seasons, you’ll  see the squads and realise how poor they were. I suspect we might be doing that in a few years when we look back at this seasons programmes.

 

That's my fear. Unless the club acts quickly, we're in the mire.

I genuinely think we'll go down unless something drastic happens.

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3 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

That's my fear. Unless the club acts quickly, we're in the mire.

I genuinely think we'll go down unless something drastic happens.

The really scary thing is that in Pune it’s just Wednesday.

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I decided on Saturday that I wasn’t even gonna pay £14 for sheff United I wouldn’t even pay 14p, mowbrsyvis careless and out his depth he doesn’t fear the sack he even appointed his own boss ffs, he couldn’t care less if he was sacked he just won’t leave even though he said he wouldn’t wanna be a burden cause he wants the pay off. Sick to death of him no enthusiasm, shite tactics, poor man management.

says it all that he’s already thrown away 2 half time 2-0 leads from the exact same tactics against two mediocre at best teams who was here for the taking. The mans ab arrogant wanker but unfortunately he’s here till may atleast but the big problem is the club needs all round change all the first team management team need clearing bar Johnson and the whole board room especially the owners.

I was picking and choosing games before now I ain’t gonna bother, I ain’t swimming in cash and there is no way I’m parting with 25 quid plus train or bus then food and drink plus my brothers ticket and even my partner for that crap when I can be spending the day doing something worth while

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There was definitely an air of inevitability about last night's result. The more astute amongst us (not me!) have spoken about the Mowbray Death Spiral, as a pattern that is woven inextricably into the manager's modus operandum. I think there is something concrete in that, and the only disappointment is that the concrete isn't a lifejacket taking Mowbray and his cronies to the bottom of a deep ocean.

The season plods on. Down to 11th, relegation form on the pitch, dwindling crowds, key players eyeing the exit door...

Yup! Sounds like a Gurning Chump's wet dream...

Venkys OUT! Mowbray OUT! Gurning cheating liars OUT!

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54 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Well please stop posting about other clubs who have been through the mill and are now better for getting rid of poor owners in some comparison to us and where we might be without that lot. By doing so I interpret that as you putting up some defence of Venkys because they are still putting money in.

It’s not me who rants about other clubs misfortunes and again at binoojntnhwve I ever defended venkys. If they didn’t put the cash exactly where would we be? Up shit creek administration and relegation x 2 or even more

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22 minutes ago, WIR Second Coming said:

There was definitely an air of inevitability about last night's result. The more astute amongst us (not me!) have spoken about the Mowbray Death Spiral, as a pattern that is woven inextricably into the manager's modus operandum. I think there is something concrete in that, and the only disappointment is that the concrete isn't a lifejacket taking Mowbray and his cronies to the bottom of a deep ocean.

The season plods on. Down to 11th, relegation form on the pitch, dwindling crowds, key players eyeing the exit door...

Yup! Sounds like a Gurning Chump's wet dream...

Venkys OUT! Mowbray OUT! Gurning cheating liars OUT!

He doesn't have a core solid system that he returns to when the right bods are available. It's been the same right through his tenure yet he likes to pretend different but the evidence to regular watchers is overwhelming.

No need for that bullshit last night but that's what he comes up with time and again just to accommodate players. What base do the team get to play off when it is so disjointed ?

There is just no need for it at this level when the core of your side is available. Yet just watch next game they'll come flying out the traps and go 2 nil up.

Most frustrating and confusing manager in the clubs modern history and that's saying something.

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6 minutes ago, tomphil said:

No need for that bullshit last night but that's what he comes up with time and again just to accommodate players.

Exactly.  The problem is that Bielsa and Potter will be expecting their wingers to be playing sooner rather than later, or they'll be going back.  So, expect them to be starting in the coming games.....🤷‍♂️🙄

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1 hour ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Really keen to hear about these positive changes afoot, currently see nothing positive from a footballing stand point? 

Me too.

I sincerely hope he hasn't had a dose of someone talking the talk, just to get rid of another pesky fan meddling in their little project. We need drastic action and quickly as the fans are getting more despondent, with every passing game.

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1 hour ago, arbitro said:

Well please stop posting about other clubs who have been through the mill and are now better for getting rid of poor owners in some comparison to us and where we might be without that lot. By doing so I interpret that as you putting up some defence of Venkys because they are still putting money in.

That's how it seems to me too, quoting Bolton losing 2-0 at Plymouth last night as an example. I do keep an eye on Bolton as my kids were brought up there, so know a lot of Wanders fans. Their journey has been painful at times, but they are definitely on the way up again and rid of dodgy owners and mountains of debt.

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1 hour ago, den said:

I can’t imagine Mowbray will know where to start after that performance.  It wasn’t just an off day. Individual performances were very, very poor, up front we posed no threat whatsoever, midfield was completely awful and the back four were anything but convincing. We couldn’t maintain any shape, we couldn’t lay a tackle on a rather boring QPR side.

If you look in any old programme and look at the relegation seasons, you’ll  see the squads and realise how poor they were. I suspect we might be doing that in a few years when we look back at this seasons programmes.

 

Have you seen some of the other teams squads and performances?We are poor but there is worse In this division.

I'm willing to take any bet that we won't go down this season?

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