glen9mullan Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: So, if that's true, that flies directly in the face of your assertion that Mowbray didn't have money to spend in January. If he wanted it. Request for funds comes from the board, not the manager. You cant have whats not asked for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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martonrover Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, rigger said: Would that not be upto the sporting dirctor, in the club model ? This is the problem at the rudderless ship that is Rovers. Just randomly deciding to have a Director of Football, without knowing what exactly that entails and who is accountable to who. Dogs Dinner. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen9mullan Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, bluebruce said: Thanks as always for sharing what you know. But these two statements seem incompatible? I'm confused how they can never refuse to sign a cheque, yet turn off the taps and require a player sale to buy players. Even if the reason was to avoid FFP rather than not wanting to part with money, that still sounds like not signing a cheque. And was still a bizarre decision (though, bizarre decisions are their forte), as we had a real opportunity to earn the mega money of the Prem and make FFP irrelevant for a while. Even if we had spent a bit more (but not too crazy, say 4-5 million) there is the likely BBD sale in the summer to largely offset it. I dont believe transfer funds were asked for by the board. We needed money in january, we needed to push on for promotion, we needed that extra spice. Had we asked for it, im sure we'd have got it. If we then failed to go up, whose neck was in the noose? The manager leaving was always on the cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieUK Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 I suspect "sporting director" is likely to involve merging multiple roles into one and cutting a wage - will we bring in a new head of recruitment or is that on the new role I wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, glen9mullan said: Request for funds comes from the board, not the manager. You cant have whats not asked for Some nice mental gymnastics there to overcome the obvious contradiction. The Board can't request funds the manager hasn't asked for either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 God I hope we get something positive to talk about this week 🙏🙏 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 I just can't read anymore of this depressing wifflewaffle (whether it's true or not) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasta Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: I just can't read anymore of this depressing wifflewaffle (whether it's true or not) Try the Burnley thread 👍 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadsword Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: God I hope we get something positive to talk about this week 🙏🙏 Venkys put the club up for sale? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hasta said: Try the Burnley thread 👍 Tbf they have very good reason to be depressed and maybe a bit peed off at the moment. But once the dust settles at least they'll be in a very good position to challenge for an automatic promotion. Can see Farke or one of our other top choice available managers taking over there soon as well (just to add to our woes😅) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: Tbf they have very good reason to be depressed and maybe a bit peed off at the moment. But once the dust settles at least they'll be in a very good position to challenge for an automatic promotion. Can see Farke or one of our other top choice available managers taking over there soon as well (just to add to our woes😅) Think it will be either Rooney or Santo. Got a bet on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasta Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: Tbf they have very good reason to be depressed and maybe a bit peed off at the moment. But once the dust settles at least they'll be in a very good position to challenge for an automatic promotion. Can see Farke or one of our other top choice available managers taking over there soon as well (just to add to our woes😅) Presuming the new owners don’t pull the £60million back and then cut their losses with the parachute money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 1 hour ago, glen9mullan said: Where did I say he should of got a new contract? Sorry chaddy, you are going on ignore, because you take 3 words, juggle them in your head then spout poo out the other end. I have neither the time or patience to get pulled into a classroom chat with you Tbf chaddy never said that you said he should have been offered a new contact. He meant offered a new contract by the club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrenbot Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, roverandout said: Tbf chaddy never said that you said he should have been offered a new contact. He meant offered a new contract by the club I think sometimes people can construe things wrong because of the way Chaddy words his sentences at times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, Mercer said: Think it will be either Rooney or Santo. Got a bet on both. I'm not at all interested in your gambling habbits fella. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 51 minutes ago, Mercer said: Think it will be either Rooney or Santo. Got a bet on both. Santo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteJD13 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Santo? nuno espirito santo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: I'm not at all interested in your gambling habbits fella. Nailed it👌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossydave Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 27 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: I'm not at all interested in your gambling habbits fella. In fairness, whatever he claims to be betting on, you can absolutely guarantee it won't happen so its semi useful in that respect 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 The idea that Venkys never refuse to sign a cheque is blatantly untrue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) How many layers of finance people are there at Ewood ? Just who exactly doesn't or does refuse cheques, pitches, strikers etc ? Waggot - Supposed to be CEO and in charge of budgets and stuff. Suhail - Has to sanction anything about 5k apparently. Badu - Allegedly VH finance man Cheston - Just there to do the payslips ? Barry - Venkys chief Rovers cheerleader Barry jnr - Hidden on the board now with some sort of say ? No wonder things don't get done if that lot has to be navigated through. Mr & Mrs D - The ultimate big financial cheeses Anyone else ? Who, why, where is allowing or blocking the pennies ? Edited May 22, 2022 by tomphil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen9mullan Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 1 hour ago, roverandout said: Tbf chaddy never said that you said he should have been offered a new contact. He meant offered a new contract by the club It was a gradual trying to put words in ones mouth, so at that point to prevent having to keep repeating myself he became the 2nd ignore of the day. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen9mullan Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said: It takes me back to a quote from Waggott 2018. Posted it on here a number of times. It ended with him saying "we can't keep going back to the owners and ask them to spend more money each time". I have suspected ever since that there may have been times where the owners were not asked for funds in order to keep costs down, or to show that we can do things cheaper than expected. The issue for me is, somebody is lying in amongst all of this. By somebody, I mean from within the hierarchy. We're hearing Mowbray had money to spend but chose not to. Then we're hearing he had no money to spend and just had loans to play with. Mowbray when leaving threw hints by saying if you just want to win all the time you need to spend some money. He also said he wants to be at a club where it hurts not to go up, a possible dig at the owners. Honestly looks like buck passing to me from those behind the scenes. One fan is told one thing, another is told something else and the blame seems to be passed around without it ever coming to light whose fault it really is. It's not any of the fans' fault though for asking or trying to engage, the problem lies within the club structure. I agree, people will say what they was told, problem is people are told different things from different people or sometimes from the same person. Ewood is still jobs for the boys, every man/woman for themselves, with eyes only for their own pay cheque. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 40 minutes ago, PeteJD13 said: nuno espirito santo No chance ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, glen9mullan said: I agree, people will say what they was told, problem is people are told different things from different people or sometimes from the same person. Ewood is still jobs for the boys, every man/woman for themselves, with eyes only for their own pay cheque. Just like most multi million pound businesses then 🤷♂️ and defintely like most other professional football clubs since sky first took control. sad but true Edited May 22, 2022 by Armchair supporter supremo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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