Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas

[Wheelton Blue]

9 minutes ago, RV Blue said:

We just sold an academy product for £20m a little over a year ago. If the women’s team was producing players worth £20m you might have a point, but it doesn’t, so you don’t.

Try seeing the bigger picture.

[Mashed Potatoes]

Just now, Mattyblue said:

This the same Masher who was banging the drum at Glen insisting on female representation in any fan consultation group... weird then that he doesn't think the club should extend the courtesy to female representation for an actual team.

The two matters are totally unconnected. If the club feel the Ladies team is no longer viable - which principally will be because not enough people go to watch - then closing it down is justified.

[StHelensRover]

I don't get why some people (here and elsewhere) don't think we should have a viable womens' team unless it generates revenue. The mens' team play in a division where a large number of the clubs, including ours, lose tens of millions per year. 

Edited 9 hours ago by StHelensRover

[Mattyblue]

Amazing mental gymnastics to defend the regime from Masher here.

 

[RoverDom]

10 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

The two matters are totally unconnected. If the club feel the Ladies team is no longer viable - which principally will be because not enough people go to watch - then closing it down is justified.

The men's first team is not financially viable either. Close that too? 

[London blue]

10 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

The two matters are totally unconnected. If the club feel the Ladies team is no longer viable - which principally will be because not enough people go to watch - then closing it down is justified.

Yeah heaven forbid the club swallows a relatively small cost to uphold the standards of a club that has produced Euro winners. 

[glen9mullan]

The coalition has already reached out to the players and are in dialogue with them.

We are seeking further clarity and sent the screen shots India too.

A number of the current and former players are speaking out.

The women's team is equally as important as any other part of the club, and other investment surely needs to be seeked if it turns out the Raos don't wish to support the team further 

 

[Mashed Potatoes]

8 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

The coalition has already reached out to the players and are in dialogue with them.

We are seeking further clarity and sent the screen shots India too.

A number of the current and former players are speaking out.

The women's team is equally as important as any other part of the club, and other investment surely needs to be seeked if it turns out the Raos don't wish to support the team further 

 

From the Guardian article it appears that certain changes are being imposed on the Womens League Championship division which will lead to a substantial increase in costs - notably the requirement that players are full time professionals. That appears to have prompted Ewood Park management to have a long hard look at whether it is worth it. The level of investment required may be substantial, maybe enough to deter new investors.

If one looks at the Womens leagues every team in their Premier League is in the Premier League proper, and of the teams in their Championship only Birmingham, Charlton, Bristol City, Sunderland, Portsmouth, Sheffield United and ourselves were not in the Premier League proper (there is also London City and Durham in the league). 

[K-Hod]

21 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Amazing mental gymnastics to defend the regime from Masher here.

 

 

32 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

This the same Masher who was banging the drum at Glen insisting on female representation in any fan consultation group... weird then that he doesn't think the club should extend the courtesy to female representation for an actual team.

You certainly Mashed Potatoes is a man?

[MarkBRFC]

Just now, Mashed Potatoes said:

From the Guardian article it appears that certain changes are being imposed on the Womens League Championship division which will lead to a substantial increase in costs - notably the requirement that players are full time professionals. That appears to have prompted Ewood Park management to have a long hard look at whether it is worth it. The level of investment required may be substantial, maybe enough to deter new investors.

Absolutely nothing to do with it.

They don't want to invest full stop.

Our owners are billionaires by the way.

[K-Hod]

2 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

From the Guardian article it appears that certain changes are being imposed on the Womens League Championship division which will lead to a substantial increase in costs - notably the requirement that players are full time professionals. That appears to have prompted Ewood Park management to have a long hard look at whether it is worth it. The level of investment required may be substantial, maybe enough to deter new investors.

If one looks at the Womens leagues every team in their Premier League is in the Premier League proper, and of the teams in their Championship only Birmingham, Charlton, Bristol City, Sunderland, Portsmouth, Sheffield United and ourselves were not in the Premier League proper (there is also London City and Durham in the league). 

We should have the money, our owners are billionaires. Even aside from that, we’ve sold all our best players and not spent anywhere near all of it to replace them with, so we absolutely should have the money.

[Forever Blue]

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[Mashed Potatoes]

2 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

We should have the money, our owners are billionaires. Even aside from that, we’ve sold all our best players and not spent anywhere near all of it to replace them with, so we absolutely should have the money.

The level of funding is determined by the owners. The management at Ewood Park have to work according to what budget is made available to them and decide how that budget is best spent.

[K-Hod]

1 minute ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

The level of funding is determined by the owners. The management at Ewood Park have to work according to what budget is made available to them and decide how that budget is best spent.

Thanks for the update Captain Obvious  👍.

I know that, but the owners should be putting more money into the club. If they aren’t willing to, then they should sell.

It’s not that hard to understand.

[glen9mullan]

7 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

From the Guardian article it appears that certain changes are being imposed on the Womens League Championship division which will lead to a substantial increase in costs - notably the requirement that players are full time professionals. That appears to have prompted Ewood Park management to have a long hard look at whether it is worth it. The level of investment required may be substantial, maybe enough to deter new investors.

If one looks at the Womens leagues every team in their Premier League is in the Premier League proper, and of the teams in their Championship only Birmingham, Charlton, Bristol City, Sunderland, Portsmouth, Sheffield United and ourselves were not in the Premier League proper (there is also London City and Durham in the league). 

If they don't want to invest, then sell that element or find external investors who will invest.

Football in general loses money, it's what most sign up for.

That being said, something special could be created with the right vision in our Womens team.

As per my previous post, we are seeking the facts,  including numbers involved and then will see how we can support.

[lraC]

1 minute ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

The level of funding is determined by the owners. The management at Ewood Park have to work according to what budget is made available to them and decide how that budget is best spent.

How many times have we heard the line trotted out, that the owners never fail to sign a cheque? 
 

That can’t be true, if they are given a budget to work to and have to decide, how it is spent.

I have no great love for the women’s team and wouldn’t follow it myself, but given it is not affected by FFP and the narrative that they never fail to sign a cheque, this now stinks. 

[RoverDom]

Outside FFP, owners committed to the club, no impediment to funding. Something doesn't add up as per usual. 

Edited 5 hours ago by RoverDom

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Absolutely nothing to do with it.

They don't want to invest full stop.

Our owners are billionaires by the way.

On paper at least.

[Bronzed A Donis]

4 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

The difference is that the Academy has a track record of making a significant contribution to the performance of the first team, as well as generating significant funds. Nobody sensible wants to see the Academy go.

Does the phrase,  cost of everything, value of nothing mean anything to you?

Your ilk who shrug your shoulders further erode the community standing of Blackburn Rovers and the role it plays in local football. It's about wanting to do the best, if we were owned by well meaning but skint owners you could make an argument.

How do you defend an ownership that has billionaires thay are chomping at the bit to invest if it wasn't for that pesky FFP? What is stopping them from at least doing bare minimum? The money won't go into the mens team.

These are people with hopes, dreams, bills to pay, life decisions to make who represented our club and our town. Being strung along and treated like this.

Have you no pride in what a football club should be or how it's perceived? 

If they aren't prepared to invest when they have an open goal for a relative pittance , walk away and let's get owners in who want us to be the best we can be.

[scotchrover]

Thank God I didn’t buy a season ticket. I nearly cracked before the Sheffield Utd game, but seeing this has made me glad I’m making a stand. Well done to the women’s team for speaking out too. 

[Mike E]

Only three years ago the England Women’s Team won the Euros thanks in large part to a goal set up, assisted, and scored by three Blackburn girls.

Yet another legacy the club are happy to ruin, after having no problem with briefly getting on the bandwagon.

@glen9mullan is the Coalition reaching out to Toone, Walsh, and Stanway?

[scotchrover]

Just now, Mike E said:

Only three years ago the England Women’s Team won the Euros thanks in large part to a goal set up, assisted, and scored by three Blackburn girls.

Yet another legacy the club are happy to ruin, after having no problem with briefly getting on the bandwagon.

@glen9mullan is the Coalition reaching out to Toone, Walsh, and Stanway?

Apparently, the club are second only to Arsenal for producing England capped players. I’m sure someone put that on Twitter before.

[glen9mullan]

8 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Only three years ago the England Women’s Team won the Euros thanks in large part to a goal set up, assisted, and scored by three Blackburn girls.

Yet another legacy the club are happy to ruin, after having no problem with briefly getting on the bandwagon.

@glen9mullan is the Coalition reaching out to Toone, Walsh, and Stanway?

We are talking to the current players to ascertain to the facts.

I've been made aware the club are at logger heads over issuing a statement as Suhail don't want it to include the owners have pulled the funding.

He'd rather it state the Execs have made the difficult decision due to the loss making operation and the need to safeguard the men's teams funds rather than dilute investment by diverting it to the woman's team.

Another strong source has advised  me this decision was made by Suhail and it's him advocating for funding to be pulled.

 

[Bronzed A Donis]

4 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

He'd rather it state the Execs have made the difficult decision due to the loss making operation and the need to safeguard the men's teams funds rather than dilute investment by diverting it to the woman's team.

However the spin this and try the divide and conquer. 

Whichever way up they pitch it, it boils down to owners don't want to put a penny into the club they don't have to.

Pretty low, to say those bloody women , if we weren't throwing money away on them we'd be all over the transfer market, like a Gestede looking for a move.

[Upside Down]

Another day, another disgrace from this so-called football club.

I see mashed brains is defending it. Is he a venky simp or just thick?