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  1. This sums up exactlyhow I feel. I am in my 70th year, have had a season ticket since 1967 and have supported my club through thick and thin (and believe me there have been some bad times). However, I have never felt more depressed than I do today. I'm not one of those who think the club has a divine right to be in the top division, but as a fan, I feel I do have the right to see my team play with purpose and passion and with definite gameplans. To my mind, the players we have now ought to be good enough to be challenging for a play off spot. The problem is that they are completely lacking in g
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  2. Between 80/81 and 89/90 we finished 4th, 10th, 11th, 6th, 5th, 18th, 12th, 5th, 5th, 5th. Remember the play offs only started in 1988. All done without a pot to piss in a division that was much stronger than now, full of clubs like Leeds, Man City, Chelsea, Newcastle etc. Now that’s a club to be proud of.
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  3. I really dislike the dumbing down. ”do you really expect us to be beating Watford?” Yes! If we had any real ambitions of promotion we certainly should be looking to beat them but there’s always an excuse with a section of the fanbase. 5 losses on the bounce to Preston, QPR, Barnsley, Forest and now Watford and each has been a limp performance. We have 2 schoolboys at the back who we don’t own but saw fit to bring in, both looking well out of their depth. A talented but erratic keeper now taking things into his own hands. The slowest left back in the league.
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  4. There's no good reason to keep hold of Mowbray. If we shunted him, how many clubs would be queueing up for the geezer? How many clubs right now would be thinking, God, we need Tony Mowbray in here, he'd get this club sorted out. He's no bleeding good, he can't put a squad together, he can't put a team together, he's about as inspirational as Eddie Edwards skiing backwards blindfolded. And he's tainted by association with Steve Swaggot. What does he offer this club? All this money being spent by venkys and nothing to show for it. All I hear in return is a load of surrender mon
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  5. 5 defeats on the trot. Awful, clueless football. A CEO who won’t sack the manager come what may. A manager who won’t walk away. A manager who infers regularly that fans expect too much. A club that wants to build houses on its academy. What’s not to be happy about?
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  6. Very noble attitude to have, well done you for respecting other opinions and not tearing down. Just one thing though.....in the last week alone you've put your stamp of approval on tweets calling fellow fans "absolutely pathetic" and "petulant children". Just wondering where that falls in your spectrum of Zen enlightenment? 🤔 Let me guess, it's just the folk with an opposing opinion to you that are acting like big meanies?
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  7. There are too many contradictions in the facts and what Waggot has said making this proposal not add up. Something is fishy and call it gut instinct. He's hiding something and I don't trust a word. 1) In the interview he talked about covid costs, new pitch, trying to compete. VS In his next sentence that 100% of the STC sale income would go on upgrading the new training centre site. It might even cost more. Ok then Steve which is it. Why are you talking about other costs if 100% revenue is going into the redevelopment 2) We know the reason that the second site was purchased. There w
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  8. https://www.ribblevalley.gov.uk/planningApplication25634 The club sought planning permission in 2015 to construct floodlight pylons on the academy site. They sought this because it is one of the requirements of a Category A academy. The application was refused because the light overspill and reflection would cause increased visibility of the training ground, cause harm to nearby residential properties through noise and light disturbance. Also concerns about the impact upon ecology and protected species. This was why the floodlit pitch was then built at the senior site instead.
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  9. All we want is someone with a winning mentality who can organize a balanced first 11. Can't win all the time everyone knows that but runs of winning only 1 in 6 or losing 5 in a row should be unacceptable. A complete change of mentality is needed as we just seem to have a shoulder shrugger. You win some you lose some attitude and a real excuse maker, all we ever hear is the good points of the opposition we should fear and every sob story in the book as to why things don't go better than they should. It's rubbed off on the players that's clear. They know a bit of effort in a jumbled
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  10. That’s the bloke that celebrated Kean’s appointment because it got rid of ‘that fat Bolton bastard’... so I’m not going to take his insights too seriously.
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  11. Congratulations Tony. 5 losses on the bounce. First time thats happened since the worst manager in our clubs history was in charge. 👏
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  12. A short history of events for those still catching up on things. Episode 1 - Steve Waggott 2004-2010 - employed at Charlton Athletic, first in the Community Trust before ending up CEO of the football club. Our very short-lived Director of Football Paul Senior was also working at Charlton up to around 2004 according to his LinkedIn profile.... 2011 - Waggott joins Coventry City where in March 2015 Tony Mowbray arrives as manager, and in June 2015 Mark Venus becomes 'technical director' - a move that enables Waggott to concentrate on his 'other responsibilities' at Coventry having
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  13. "It's a slow build" Well, I'm at the point that if that is the case, I'm off to build a bonfire of my fondest memories of being around this club, the good times and the bad, the Shearer goals, the Batty & Le Saux handbags at 30 paces in Russia, Meccy going round in circles in the middle, Tugay ghosting past Liverpool's finest as if they weren't there, Terry Gennoe at full stretch, Andy Crawford tap ins, Kevin Hird and Waggy tearing up defences, Roger Jones calm and collected, Paul Dickov jumping like a flea to head in, the walk down Livesey Branch Road with my dad, the scramble to get
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  14. There's an easy answer to this - they aren't! And there will never be any attempt to do so, because the whole thing is a crock, a scam, a blatant attempt to sell off assets and to downgrade the whole operation at Blackburn Rovers - because they (whoever 'they' are behind the scenes) can, as things stand 😞
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  15. It’s so very obvious that Venkys basic plan hasn’t shifted since they turned up here. Their financial plan for rovers was that this club could only survive by producing young players, sell them at a profit, reinvest then move forwards. I do wonder where they want to move forwards to, because they sold an entire Premier League squad to invest in youth. Is it to move forwards to a league we dropped out of because of their own plan of relying on producing young players worth good money? It’s the wrong plan for us at this moment in time anyway IMO. The plan surely has to be to get a manager
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  16. Think it went - ke*n, Black, Berg, Bowyer, Appleton, Bowyer in that season. Everyone lords up Mowbray for inheriting a mess of a club from Coyle, but I'd always argue that Bowyer (and by no means am I a fan of his) inherited just a big a mess as Mowbray, maybe even bigger during/after that 12/13 season. The only difference being that Mowbray has had the luxury of a third division promotion season to really skew opinion of him where as Bowyer (who actually achieved his first task of keeping us up) didn't. Bowyer finished 8th and 9th with 70 & 67pts respectively with much less tran
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  17. Things I’m not interested in seeing or hearing: 1) Any talk about a journey 2) Where the managers best interests are 3) The value of the squad 4) Promotion from League One 5) The style of football 6) What the stats say 7) Being trusted to nurture top talent I’m judging this solely on the results and performances in the last 12 months.
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  18. Mick is in a lot of ways the total opposite to Mowbray. Keeps things simple, plays everybody in their best positions, sticks to tried-and-tested formations and makes his teams hard to beat - building from the back. TM overthinks everything and, despite being a centre-back, seems to have zero concept of how defending works, which is why we always end up in a muddle.
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  19. I can only assume that the 19000 figure should be square metres rather than acres. Thats the only explanation that makes any sense. Not off to a good start with this exciting project are they? News leaked from fans and forced to hastily release a statement Nobody putting their name to it Manager denying any involvement Inadequate site to accommodate what is needed. Company instructed to prepare plans can't even distinguish between square metres and acres. Maybe that explains why they think they can get it all on one site. They might have measured everything
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  20. As many know I’ve been as optimistic as anyone....but I can’t get past the fact that we haven’t played well since November 24th.
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  21. This is what Mowbray's backers say this but why is he better than Bowyer? Bowyer like Mowbray inherited a poor side in a relegation battle but unlike Mowbray he kept us up. Then he finished 8th and 9th higher than Mowbray has ever guided us and he did it by spending less on players in total than Mowbray has spent on Gallagher alone and he isn't even Mowbray's most expensive signing. If it wasn't for Sheffield Wednesday's points deduction then we would be in a relegation battle. Mowbray has had 4 years and spent what must be getting on for £20 Million and we are only 8 places better off
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  22. Have you not considered it might be a bit too late by then ? I know one thing, this lot won't get us out of a relegation scrap if we get in one. You can count the fighters in the team on the fingers of one hand ( thumb doesn't count ). He couldn't keep us up before and since then he hasn't signed one player who's got a bit of fight in them. The only guys who put a foot in were already here when he came. Edit. Sorry I got that wrong. He has signed 1 player who had some fight in him out of the 30 odd he must have signed in the last four years. Ritchie Smallwood.
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  23. Just watched this...my takeaways FWW TL:DR We need money, this raises money....dear residents...please don’t object, we need the money 1. Integration...integration...integration - a good thing ? Yes, can see that in an ideal world & all that ✅ 2. Applications “to establish the principle...” 🤔 3. “Came out earlier than I thought...” I’ll bet...🤨 4. Consultation with residents 11/3-19/3 - seem paranoid about resident objections....fans perspective/concerns not mentioned 😳website being set up...better late than never ✅ 5. “When the club isn’t using it...” sugge
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  24. Remember the song......” Tony had a dream, to build a football team “????? Well, at the last night’s final whistle this was it... 4 loanees 1 right back he doesn’t rate and plays when he has to 1 Irishman getting minutes in his legs before the next international 1 36 year old who couldn’t sign a contract in summer but could when he’d had no other offers in January 1 6 million pound striker on the left wing 2 players subbed ( Dack and Travis )looking broken and half the players they were. .............some team Tony , some journey .....
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  25. My understanding is that when Brockhall was a hospital the JTC grounds were outside the hospital footprint and used solely for recreation and sports. The difference with the areas 'up the hill' were that these were within the 'footprint' and when the hospital was demolished planning permission was secured to build housing over it. If you ever go to Brockhall you can tell feel this is the case, as the JTC can only be accessed through the village, passing the houses and going down a lane to the bottom of the hill outside of the village. It feels very much separate and outside of the village area
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  26. Avoided coming on here yesterday after the game as I was so angry at yet another abject performance, devoid of anything even remotely resembling tactics or passion. I consoled myself in the hope that maybe, just maybe, I'd get up today, check in & he'd either be gone or strong rumours that they were dotting the i's & crossing the t's on his pay off. But no. Nothing. Nada!. What the hell does it take to get rid of this clown? All the talk from these muppets saying 'yeah, get rid when we're in a relegation battle' is stupid. The time for change is BEFORE we get in a rel
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  27. @dcbrfc So passive-aggressive. So much flannel. You'd be surprised in how many classrooms it is teacher against pupils. You must have forgotten. Too many think that the kids they teach can't learn. Some kids don't want to learn. Pupils know who bad teachers are, but can't get rid of them. Kids know, if they're in a failing school. They don't need OFSTED to tell them that. They do need action to get new people in charge. We're in a failing 'school' and we can't change things. Unlike pupils, we can stay away. Mowbray couldn't turn around Coyle's mess and he certainly can't fix a mess of his
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  28. Extremely bored of all this, anyone else? Seriously struggled watching the game today it's just utter dross.
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  29. Watched it. No fears allayed. Just talk of “state of the art”, “fully integrated”, “football models” etc. None of the very valid logistical issues addressed. He did say Cat 1 was vital, but it just doesn’t seem in any way plausible after basic scrutiny of the plans. a couple of points worth noting... - Rob Coar has clearly given him a brief history lesson on the Brockhall set up after the disingenuous and dismissive comments last weekend. - He mentioned similar projects he’d been involved in at other clubs... not sure I’d be celebrating my track record if it read like his.
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  30. And your first sentence is my point about a new manager coming in. He needs time to assess and plan so now is the time. Summer is too late.
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  31. It's so sad what's happened to Rovers in the past 10 years. The fans, the club, the town, the community didn't deserve this to happen. Jack Walker's legacy has been raped, diminished and destroyed by charlatans, chancers, spivs and crooks. Could the footballing gods for once smile on this proud and historic club for a change?
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  32. Considering both are international centre halves you'd have thought he might have tried that before putting in the U15s🙄
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  33. Bristol C sacked their manager after a few losses ... then appointed Pearson .. two straight wins, one of them against Swansea away...says it all....bad team but plays better with a better manager...
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  34. Verdict: No sense of panic from Rovers during winless run | Lancashire Telegraph Those inside the club won’t be unaware of the issues and mounting criticism, yet there appears very little sense of panic, at least not outwardly, manager Tony Mowbray and chief executive Steve Waggott both making reference to an ‘extraordinary’ season, citing the schedule and injuries as mitigating factors for a campaign that has so far brought three more defeats than victories. Don't forget chaps, Rovers are the only club in the EFL/PL who have had to deal with injuries and a hectic fixture sche
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  35. A change of manager is needed.
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  36. People do this all the the time when they downsize their houses to free up equity. But you can only do it once & it’s called downsizing for a reason. Once it is gone it is gone & JW put those covenants in for a reason. Not addressing this point is disingenuous at best.
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  37. So just so the manager can ‘wander across to a youth team pitch’, we need to; reduce our footprint significantly, knock down the STC, remove pitches, have to build 170 houses, remove the Cat 1 required classrooms and apply once again for already rejected floodlights on the JTC - again risking Cat 1 academy status. Explain to me again how it’s tangibly improving what we already have?
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  38. Mark Hughes over the last few years for some reason has gained a reputation as a failure but honestly for me that is very harsh, in a full season he has only once finished outside the top half. We all know what an excellent job he did of course did at Rovers but since then his record is still very respectable. At City he had to deal with the take over happening in his first season where he finished 10th which at the time was a respectable finish for then the following year he was sacked with them finishing 5th in the league. Also at City he signed 2 stalwarts of their successes to come in Zaba
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  39. ‘Understood to be displeased’, they medieval monarchs?
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  40. Don't worry, someone offset it by comparing him to our greatest ever manager of modern times.
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  41. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/24/mick-mccarthy-cardiff-city-championship-football?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other No idea why anyone would want Mick McCarthy, winning all those matches, getting the most out of players....
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  42. The residents of Brockhall Village and surrounding area have formed a comittee to oppose both the planning applications and are already in talks with Councillor Atkinson and MP Nigel Evans.
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  43. This debate is better than the football! I always laugh when people say “it can’t be a teacake they have currants in them!” “That’s a currant teacake!”
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  44. I have no admiration for Tony Mowbray, I didn't want him in the first place. I do however have plenty of admiration for Roverschimp, who has had a very productive afternoon. He has managed to order a 2/slice toaster, (wide enough for barmcakes) and get this for attention to detail, it matches his kettle, well done sir ! Have you ever coached a football team at any level ?
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  45. Does 1 point out of 18 count as progress?
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  46. How about a starter from the club to evidence their intentions before cracking on with this Brockhall project? If the owners and club management are so keen to improve the club, facilities and modernise things then lets see some FFP exempt investment into these facilities that doesn't rely upon selling off acres of prime land for housing. A new or refurbished Riverside should convince people. Or how about a deep clean of Ewood to get rid of the filth that has built up over the last decade. Or how about we see if this major pitch project actually happens without needing to sell off pl
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  47. It would be hugely satisfying if Waggott received the orders that he had to sack his mate tomorrow morning. But not half as satisfying as if Pasha was following up behind with P45's for Waggott and Venus as well.
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  48. Was it? After almost 8 years of nothingness I'm a bit sick of seeing him to be honest.
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  49. I feel really strange about that goal. In that, I didn't really feel any different to the moments before it. It's not even an empty, barely care, resigned feeling like I've had before recently, just an absolute lack of reaction. Don't think I've ever had this reaction before.
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