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  1. Coyle should never have been appointed and to be frank this is an historical debate. I will say this ,the fella in charges is now is worse. How much money. How many time does he run us down. I’m absolutely sick of him telling me Rovers have to accept where we are and we can’t compete.Who does he think he is and do I prefer Coyle I don’t care.Coyle was just useless but no where near as bad has the fella in charge. This one is far worse. PS Fuck cakes The fella in charge had 15 games to save us In 2017 not 2 . The big bag of shite. February 2017 he was appointed the same length of time he hasn’t managed to win a game now. kean shit coyle shit mowbray shit What appalls me the most with him is not losing but running Rovers down. It annoys me no end. Quote :Boro are a premiership outfit but we have to accept what we are. Well you big fat boro tow rag you are in charge of the most successful small town team of all time. The list of our achievements stand tall by any measure. He just needs to go. My blood pressure has now reached pop.
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  2. Seeing the thread title was like feeling my lottery numbers had finally come up... and then realising I hadn't bought a ticket.
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  3. Outside of his injury patches, which is of course not his fault, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen you say. Dack absolutely delivered in his first season in this league, and was delivering just fine in his second until injury hit. Maybe you're baiting on purpose here and I took it too easily, but it's hard to ignore how ludicrous what you said is. Obviously Toney has worked out better, but that's not the point and he also cost a lot more.
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  4. Thing is if you had to spend money on one thing in the championship a good manager would be it. The difference it makes to a club is huge. It's amazing that some clubs don't realise that.
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  5. Thanks for a very well reasoned reply. Appreciate there is a lot of opinion and conjecture in this although fwiw given his clout at the club I find it impossible to think he didn't know of and at least tacitly approve of the plans. (Plus the Coventrio is a huge coincidence otherwise too!) Where I really take issue is the all managers comments can be seen as talking us down. There is a huge difference between the reality changing BS the current incumbents spouts and previous managers talking us down a bit. Not under Souness, Hughes, Ince or any manager has anyone ever said the fans are measuring against winning the PL. It's an utter lie to discredit fans. No manager has ever said we need to acclimatise to the championship as a league one outfit. No manager has ever effectively said the previous 3 years don't count. No manager has stated as many factual inaccuracies (deliberately) as him. There's a huge difference between what TM is doing and what others have done. It's a bit like comparing someone who goes a couple of miles over the speed limit with someone drink driving along the pavement. As you say though it's probably best to leave it here before I start to forget Coyle was utterly useless too. It's a poor do that the competition between the two is so fierce for who is worse and even sadder than neither make the top spot. And all in the last 10 years! Makes me amazed we still have any fans left.
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  6. I don't believe for one second that Venkys bought this football club because they had its best interests at heart.
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  7. He holed a lovely red on the 19th.
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  8. Ah the old ‘fella at the golf club bar said...’ Done deal, obviously!
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  9. ignore the cant wait for you to be wrong lot, people get told things in good faith that are accurate at the time doesn't stop people changing minds. What is frankly more boring are those that continue to snipe when people are good enough to share information. If you aren't happy here with that go to rovers talk or the rovers on FB
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  10. And how many things have I flagged that did happen! Two examples of 'bigger' things that readily come to mind that LT and Radio Lancs didn't have a sniff of: Posted on here that deal with Huddersfield done for Rhodes hours before any media knew (came from Huddersfield end) Posted on here Venky's been approached to sell part of / interest in Rovers and then reported a couple of days later in LT that Battersby and co were behind Venky's approach And there have been many others though perhaps not as 'big' as the above. I don't need to justify myself to anyone and frankly I'm getting a bit p1ssed off with snide comments from likes of yourself. What the feck have you ever brought to the table on this MB? Simple answer is I'll stop posting and sharing stuff that comes my way.
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  11. Got a very Bowyer's-last-season feeling about it. There were rumours all that summer that he was leaving and communications between he and India had stopped. The Sun also printed a story in August that he'd been sacked, with that story having presumably leaked from Ewood. It took until October for the axe to actually fall. Would not surprise me in the slightest if history ends up repeating itself here.
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  12. Thanks Gav and Admiral for well thought out and reasoned opinions. While it is obvious from previous posts I have a low opinion of Mowbray I can still appreciate and reflect on alternative views. In terms of the Brockhall if this were an isolated incident of infrastructure sale then yes I could agree that it is possible that Mowbray had no knowledge but unfortunately the three of them have prior for this sort of dealing. I suppose I’m saying it’s guilt by association. One of the things we all agree on is we want the best for Rovers. I can find no case for that sale which would support this goal. I was once at a Rovers U23 game at Norwich and was sat amongst the parents. All of them were clear that Mowbray hated the academy and wanted to dismantle it and use the money for the first team. They also felt the academy graduates would struggle to get first team opportunities because Mowbray did not want the academy to be seen as successful. I do appreciate these are only opinions but every opinion has at its base an element of fact particularly when it’s shared by a group. I also would appreciate Mowbray complaints about Rovers but he’s had money, time and facilities that most championship managers only dream of. Yet none of its good enough. I can’t wait to see where he ends up next because he has in my opinion totally wasted a fantastic opportunity to achieve any of the goals a professional manager should have. Mowbray fulfills the criteria for a bad workman blaming his tools
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  13. Coyle deffo tried to pull wool over our eyes somewhat re: SEM, but I never felt he tried to actively and deliberately disrespect the club in the same way Mowbray has. 'Shrearer and Sutton aren't here anymore' ffs. Coyle was just a crap manager and a liar. Mowbray is a crap manager, a liar, and willing to put us down as a club. In fact the only managers post-Sam to respect Rovers to any real degree are Bowyer and Berg.
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  14. Carry on, as you are fully entitled to do so and I sincerely, hope you are correct.
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  15. I’ve said this before and I still believe it. Mowbray didn’t get us out of league 2 the senior professionals at the club did when they took over after the disaster at Oldham. Mowbray even said it himself and they were handsomely rewarded for it with big long contracts. The idea that we are stable under Mowbray is nonsense and unless someone at the club acts I fear the wheels are about to come off.
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  16. It makes a huge difference everywhere. The difference between Sale Sharks under a decent manager in Steve Diamond and what looks like an excellent appointment in Alex Sanderson is amazing. You win matches youd previously have lost. You hold onto leads you'd previously have lost. You overcome problems on the pitch and players sort things out for themselves mid game because of the confidence an excellent manager gives them. Training ground moves start to appear in matches, and players really play for the team. It's not rocket science. It's just like any other job. Get a really good person at the top and everything else falls into place
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  17. Great post. No-one has ever held the view that we needed to acclimatise in the Championship because we were relegated when arguably we shouldn't have been. It's just something Mowbray has invented in the last few months to excuse his own abysmal performance.
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  18. Coyle is stigmatised by his Burnley connection plus being a very poor manager and paying little attention to defence. Reminds me of someone else. He wasn't at Rovers long enough to exert any real 'control' over the Club and was binned as soon as the Vs actually realised we were headed to relegation. The one Mowbray himself admits he failed to save us from. Kean was a lapdog for those who 'ran' the Club at that time. Mowbary with his cohorts, appointed by Mowbary, have ingrained themselves into the Ewood woodwork and are untouchables. It's like comparing a single dog shit with piles of turd to compare Coyle with Kean and Mowbray on the long term damage to the Club. And yet even yesterday I read on this MB that Mowbray still has credit in the Bank! Some just never ever learn.
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  19. Sounds plausible but remember we have been told that Venky's the Indian Billionaires never refuse to sign a cheque Considering a decent pitch is somewhat crucial to the business at their Ewood Park franchise, should really be a no-brainer.
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  20. They pulled the plug on this. It’s the thing that keeps me believing that Mowbray and his men are gone. Dodgy group. Old fashioned looking for a bit of gravy on a deal. Train on the ewood pitch to prove you need to sell brockhall. Buy your friends son and give him a four year contract. Anyone who has to keep speaking about how honourable they are needs watching because hourable people don’t. He’s in the same group as Kean and Coyle but craftier. All I want is a guy who want to achieve things for us and not for himself. He’s spent 4 seasons talking us down he wouldnt do that at boro the old lag
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  21. I didnt know Mercer played golf ....???
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  22. If they want a wide forward, they could spend that £15m on Sam Gallagher instead!! 😲
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  23. Funny isn't it how I posted a few weeks ago that the 'whole thing' had got bigger and more complicated only for Rovers to announce a couple of days later the Brockhall plan was off! Anyhow I don't give a flying feck what you think.
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  24. Don't fuel the fire, he's no more idea than anyone else.
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  25. Exactly. Can't believe some people are still falling for the nice but dim Uncle Tony jumpers for goalposts routine. You could just about forgive him for installing his own boss IF the owners were daft enough to suggest it. However the way Waggott has subsequently defended Mowbray to the hilt despite him pissing money away like water and producing abysmal results and then the three of them all trying to pull off the same stunt as at Coventry suggests there is something rather more sinister afoot.
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  26. Factor in how he pulls the strings on everything, including his own boss. Bit odd if he then has no say in this after that kind of clout. Then there's the fact that even if it wasn't his plan he could have opposed it or the manner in which it was undertaken (i.e. sneaking it through.)
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  27. Wake up Gav, why do you think we we training on an already knackered pitch in the middle of winter in atrocious conditions? Of course Mowbray was instrumental in it just as much as the other two. They tried (and failed) to pull off the same sort of scam at Coventry as well. You can't pin that on Venky's.
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  28. Sometimes these types of appointments work out but more often than not, they start well and then fade quickly. This bloke is 53 years old, never been a manager before in his life and has spent the last 7 years being an assistant to the bloke they just sacked. Those 7 years by the way, being the only 7 years as an assistant or anything close to in his career and he never played professionally either. Feels like an appointment straight outta the Venkys top drawer. Driven largely by one factor, he'll be the cheapest option around. They couldn't have picked a less inspiring choice if they tried.
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  29. Looking at the full list of clubs , we seem a odd addition ,Somebody in Asia shoved a big wedge on it ? https://www.oddschecker.com/football/manager-specials/frank-lampard/next-club
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  30. The very fact that we are being mentioned in that sort of market is a sign that others think we will change managers soon.
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  31. Having now finished a binge of all 6 Series of LoD I can confirm Mowbray is not H. He is however definately a T, which has nothing to do with LoD. An Ewood CHIS was the source, allegedly.
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  32. Lol. Mind you: Falling upwards. Incompetence and in a position above his station. Surrounded by other crooks. Since the glove fits perhaps there are parallels. We could do with an AC 12 style purge on our club too.
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  33. Keep on sharing, Mercer. We hear nothing but bullshit and propaganda from the likes of the LT, journalists on twitter and the facebook brigade. All who are way behind the curve. Personally, I'm glad to hear of any potential news or developments at the club from posters on here. It brings a bit of hope. Yes, things don't always come off, but with these unpredictable owners things can change on a whim.
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  34. How many things have you predicted that didn't happen? Even a broken clock is right twice a day
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  35. Any potential investor or buyer would immediately put in place a good CEO and managerial team to try and ensure a return on their investment even Tombola T wouldn’t survive that!
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  36. Does anyone actually have a shred of evidence that Tony Mowbray played any part in the proposed selling off at Brockhall? As that fact alone seems to have propelled him from a manager past his sell by date, to scum, as someone posted last night? Its a genuine question as I'm not up to speed, other than the plans have been shelved and it was the Chairman who was pushing this, but its the owners ultimately that are to blame, they own the club and land, not Waggot. Its not unusual for clubs looking to raise cash to sell the training grounds, or part of them, I don't agree we need to sell ours just to make that clear. Sheff Wednesday have just been relegated due for dodgy dealing around training ground sales and where that money went, that was the owner not the manager/managers. If Mowbray has played a part and was due to benefit financially that changes everything, but if thats not the case then he's just another manager past his sell by date in my book.
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  37. Coyle was a crap manager but at least it didn't last long. Mowbray is a crap manager but also a liar and it's lasted years. Kean turned fan against fan. Mowbray is now doing the same. I would say he's as bad as kean and Coyle in different ways
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  38. Hi get that none of us are saying either are good, more like a debate as to which is worse a punch in the face or kick in the balls. It's a good point that you make. With the same squad TM was doing a bit better. And that points to him being a little stronger in terms of ability. My counter would be two fold. Firstly his character and actions away from the pitch are FAR worse. Trying to sell the training ground - unforgivable. Suggesting Rovers fans were entitled due to remembering 1995 - insulting. Coyle also didn't give contracts to his mates kids and the like either. Off the pitch, far, far worse which more than undermines him being a bit better in ability (which I tend to agree with just.) Secondly it's a just/very marginally better. For starters TM still got us relegated. Secondly the limited number of games, as we saw to our cost this season, probably helps TM in comparison as there was less chance of the obligatory death spiral (hypothetical I know). Also Coyle came into an utter mess, he didn't even get a load of his recruits in till towards the end of the window. It was a far from easy start. To use an analogy its easier to come in part way through cleaning up a mess. Then of course there is this season. To be three points better off with a shed load of advantages is absymal. Utterly appalling and just as unimpressive in its own way. To be fair I doubt Coyle would have done as well as the previous 2 seasons, although with that budget and team I think he might still have got us up. but overall I think TM has shown plenty of ineptitude as a manager and blows Coyle away with his off field antics.
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  39. That name would really confuse Mowbray
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  40. False promises to mask over an issue that WILL reoccur. I did not believe it at the time, although it was a good experiment to prove right - that anything said by the club, like any badly run business, has to be taken with a pinch of salt. Do journalists really believe that the owner's can't afford £2 million on a new pitch??? This isn't a financial issue it's a lack of interest and ownership issue. Ask the awkward questions. It's chump change to them! Our pitch doesn't need to hold up for a full season, just like the manager doesn't need to perform for a full season. In my opinion it epitomises everything wrong with the club. The problems are glaring, the fixes are obvious but instead corners are cut and we fail to achieve. We are no longer a club of progressive and continuous excellence. As it stands we do not have the right executives or owners to move the club forward. The only way to get their attention is to show how it can be monetised. They're everything that's wrong with club ownership today. When are we going to hear from them?
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  41. Coincidence that the £2m pitch was announced by a Sky commentator on a live game. You’d almost think that was strategically dropped in there
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  42. The way Coyle arrived, usurping a good manager in Neil Warnock, combined with the "SEM who?" lie will always grate. Obviously the team also performed poorly under him - but he was a shit manager with a below average team. It is what it is. When it was obvious things were not working out he was sacked - too late, as always, but at lightning speed by Venky standards. That's what separates the likes of Mowbray and Kean from all of our other managers - they've worked themselves into positions of absolute power where football results no longer seem to matter. Even Bowyer wasn't immune to that. That's why these comparisons between Kean and Mowbray are made. I don't think anybody will deny Kean was far worse (and anybody that does has forgotten how bad it was between 2011-2012, imo) but Mowbray has somehow gotten himself into the same bulletproof position. The Brockhall debacle just makes it even worse and propels him way ahead of Coyle on my list.
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  43. For me the Brockhall scandal will forever taint TM's time here. I can't believe he knew nothing about it. Not after they tried to pull the same stunt at Coventry. For me that's worse than anything Coyle did, although Kean still retains the worst manager spot by some distance.
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  44. Having read a fair few of Nostradamus’s and the Brahan Seer’s predictions (late night junk reading) I would say I have learned two things about successfully predicting the future: 1. Make your predictions so vague that they can mean anything. 2. Re-write the prophecy after the event to make it fit a bit better. Former resident of these parts - Alan Nixon - was an absolute master at it. He could put Nostradamus and Old Mother Shipton to shame. I genuinely enjoy all the “itk” stuff that gets posted on this site. If anyone doesn’t take it with a huge pinch of salt (like me every time somebody says TM is on the way), then it’s our fault not the posters. It’s an internet message board and all part of the fun. Whether it’s the sale the club, TM and Waggot being booted, or Frank Lampard being at suspiciously short odds for a market I’m surprised even exists - keep it coming - what else is there to discuss? TMs new signings? If we can possibly over achieve and push for 14th place next season? How many more years before we sign a new centre half? Will TM practice set pieces next year? Are results important? Reality sucks at the moment- bring on the escapism.
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  45. Are you saying TM is H?
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  46. Like a clown? I amuse u?
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  48. Nail on head. Personally, I have zero trust in either Waggott or Mowbray. I think Waggott showed his colours a long time ago when he 'represented' Andy Cole in his move to Newcastle and seemingly pocketed Cole's £30k signing on fee. I would love the two of them to debate that one in a telephone box!
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  49. I'm no Coyle fan - he was useless. But he never took pops at the entitled fans or tired to sell off the training ground. Both of which make him less odious than TM. Also before we build up TM as a managerial giant I do wonder if Coyle would have done much worse than TM if he had had the backing TM had. Compare this seasons performance to Coyle's and I would say it is probably worse. 3 years into the position, £15 million net transfer spend, no enforced sales, the advantage of Covid overall and Covid and a points deduction helping us Vs relegation rivals and we are what, 3 points better off. That doesn't strike me as a better manager to me. Again not that Coyle is any good. He gave us Williams and Byrne for starters and let Duffy go awol. But if we are doing a like for like comparison I wouldn't be too confident on TM looking good.
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