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  1. Aye, today is the end of an era. Josh, Ian, Stu and co have effectively been running the site for many years now, Ste and I long since vanished into the shadows and have had almost no input bar paying the odd bill. but today is the biggest and first publicly visible step towards it all being officially owned and managed by the new team. I first got involved with BRFCS in 1998 and I think Ste and I formally took control (with Paul and Don) around 2001, in our time we did some amazing things (the events around the Genclerbirligi away game in Turkey being my personal highlight), we've streamed live from Ewood, had a dinner hosted by Tash McDermott with Simon Garner as a speaker, we're doing Podcasts a decade before they became commonplace, hosted Poker Tournaments, done site specific merch, hosted the Grooby Annual Awards Ceremonies, had a recognised rep on the clubs Fans Forum, had great projects like FLB & CN174s history, CN174s Jack Walker Tribute, Den's epic All Time Starting 11 and kept "raising the coffin" alive, to name but a few. We've done a lot, and had so much help doing it, but so much fun along the way. But most of all I made friends, lots of friends. Trying to research the pre-Grooby era of the site for Josh I've been re-reading thread after thread, reading name after name of people I now consider real life friends that I met through the site, seeing the names hundreds of people who would come up to us at games and say Hi and Thank You. Whilst it's easy to relive the sites former glories, over the last decade or so, Josh and his team have managed to steer the site through some of the toughest times for internet sites in general and in all that he's stayed true to our vision that the site remains a "free for everyone" community resource with a primary aim of it's own long term survival. Hopefully through me being tight with the purse strings, I've taught he him how to do so much with so little. I'm also proud that whilst the site it now under a new company, Ste and I are in the fortunate position to give them a chunk of starting capital. A world apart from when we took over when the lucrative advertising deal had just collapsed, there was nothing in the bank, we faced a massive hosting bill and had to walk around the stands at games asking for donations to keep the site alive! It's not all been good times, but we survived people inside and outside the club attempting to destroy us, we outlasted them all! I'll always be proud of that. It's fair to say in recent years I fell out of love, with BRFCS, with Rovers, with football in general and I don't know if it's correlation or causation that that love is starting to return at the very time the millstone of BRFCS is being lifted. Whichever, it feels great and I'm confident we've leaving the site in very capable hands. Finally a massive Thank You to everyone who has contributed in all way, big or small, to keeping the site running the last 20+ years (25+ including the Grooby era), I'm not going to attempt to name you because I'll only miss people who made a significant contribution, but you are ALL heroes! Thank You!
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  2. Popular fan forum, BRFCS.com to relaunch with expanded content, partners with 4000 Holes. Tuesday 27th July 2021 This Wednesday, July 28th 2021 sees the re-launch of the BRFCS.com website. The leading Blackburn Rovers fans online forum will expand to include articles from guest authors and will incorporate the hugely popular “4000 Holes“ fanzine archive. The new website is formatted in a magazine style content and retains the much-loved forum. Fans can continue to have their say on the topics of the day, just as they have for over 25 years, sharing their hot takes after the latest match, or opinion on a new signing; but now, when they have more to say, there's a place for them to say it. BRFCS.com already has a team of familiar names to create multi-media content and some new contributors have been added to the team too - keep your eyes out for interesting items from them all. The "new" team behind the venture have been operating the site for the past 3 or 4 years. I’ll be the Forum, @Herbie6590 on podcast content, @4,000 Holes on website content, @StubbsUK running the website back end and @Rothon front end. The website will by run through Northern Horde Ltd. We’d like to thank the previous owners Glenn and Ste for everything they have done for the site historically. 
We’d also like to thank everyone who has helped us get this far, special mentions to the moderation team led by @K-Hod whilst we worked on the site, @Kamy100, @Biddy and Phil T. The new BRFCS continues the “not for profit” ethos of previous guardians of the site, with all profits from the forum continuing to be reinvested in order to improve the site and the Rovers community.
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  3. I’m not even that bothered by the lack of signings at this point, and I’m certainly not surprised. We should’ve got whatever money we could at the start of the window for Armstrong and used it to pay off Mowbray, Venus, Lowe, and whoever else, as well as Waggott. A compensation package should’ve been agreed with Wycombe for Ainsworth and Tom Finn should’ve been approach with a sincere apology and a handsome offer to try and get the club back on track. Just a quick one on Waggott, if his salary was talked about weekly instead of annually, it becomes apparent he earns more than most of our first team squad. More than we are offering Nyambe. It’s ridiculous. I’d be happy going into the next season with no new signings, but with major changes in the dugout and boardroom, in fact, I’d be delighted.
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  4. I really enjoyed that. Nyambe and Buckley were excellent, Kaminski picking up where he left off. Really impressed with Magloire, the lad is a physical phenomenon and those attributes alone mean he should be in and around the first team not shipped out in favour of other teams kids. Pickering has a lovely left foot but struggled defensively against a tough opponent. Garrett loves a tackle, Cirino looks like one to watch, Dolan was busy first half, and what a hit by McBride… the way he set the ball down it was always flying in! Armstrong looked like his head was in Southampton. Oh, and that Diaz lad reminds me a lot of Brereton we had last season. We’re obviously going to be reliant on a lot of these young lads at times throughout the season. What a shame that during what is probably the academy’s most purple patch since it’s inception, there is such an uninspiring manager at the helm. A dynamic manager with motivational skills might get these lads playing fearlessly and above themselves giving us something to get really excited about.
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  5. Some bleak reading in the last few pages, but I find it very easy to believe. Owners aren’t so much asleep at the wheel as curled up on the backseat with a brick on the accelerator. A genuine tragedy if the legacy of Jack Walker was dismantled to save face of a trio of spoilt, bratty siblings on the other side of the world. I have nothing but ill will towards them. The type of things I wish for them are possibly incriminating to share publicly, but I do hope they get what’s coming to them. Having said that, Jack himself would say that no one person (or group of people) defines the club. Players, managers, owners - even fans! - all come and go. The colours, the crest, the history, the town are what last, what defines us. I think a part of me has always held onto the shred of possibility that we could be a top-flight team again, that we could go up, grind out and stay up. Before the 90s, we hadn’t been one for a while, so I suppose older posters on here can point to that as the norm for us. Is it so bad? Well, it’d be awful while these owners and the litany of chancers they’ve employed were still involved with us, no doubt. I don’t spend money with the club anymore, where I can help it. Occasionally I’ll buy a match pass to watch when I’ve the time to sit down and watch. The new kits have definitely piqued my interest. But the thing I understand about business is that - while the average consumer has very little bearing on management’s KPI’s - mass desertion (while maybe not a huge effect on top/bottom line) - works. When you have absolutely no customer base, it’s impossible to ignore. One way or another - whether the owners are still at the helm or whether they drop us in some way - it feels like administration is pretty nailed-on. There’s no way anyone buys us outright in our existing state and the owners have been unresponsive to offers, if memory serves me right. Tragic, genuinely awful. It will be absolutely heartbreaking, it will feel like a bereavement. Part of the reason I don’t spend money with the club where I can help it is I’m essentially ashamed. I love every pre-Venky’s memory, I absolutely cherish it. But I’m embarrassed to be a fan of a plaything of some of the most two-bit amateur-hour morons that have ever been involved in football, Waggott included. When it comes, administration will be mercy, essentially. And with that, comes the opportunity to move on. Agency. An opportunity to learn, an opportunity to reminisce, to bond, to share. If there are enough of us feeling that way, there will be a way to build out of it, there will be something to be proud of again. We’re all masochists for still following the club, maybe out of duty, compulsion, compassion or delusion. It’s going to be a painful watch, at times, but at least we’re all still watching, at least we all still care (to whatever extent!) and maybe we’ll one day have something to be proud of, of our own making.
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  6. I know Venkys are shite houses, I know Mowbray is holding on with all his might to his last ever pay day, I know Waggott is the worst CEO in football. But, I'm still going to say it ... I'm absolutely staggered at what is going on at Blackburn Rovers with regards to preparing a squad for a season in England's second tier, I'd be shocked if a league two club were so clueless. It is an absolutel embarrassment to the history of this famous club, its an absolute shambles!!!
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  7. Mowbray is doing what he does best - absolving himself from any blame as he sees the writing on the wall. He has never once accepted any culpability in the mess Rovers have become for a large part of his tenure. He is a self serving, egotistical pillock and I just wish he would piss off away from my club.
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  8. Wow! I’m loving all this because he made it all happen himself. The boy deserves everything good coming his way.
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  9. It's simple really and iv'e banged on about it all along, he won't get anything because hes already spent it. There's a 12 million quid shaped hole on the books in the last cycle of FFP. Only way that could ever be plugged was promotion or sales or owner input. Because of what we spend on wages the last bit can't cover it. So here we are largely courtesy of this mangers slow build policy. Which included spending big on two forwards and gambling on higher wage short term contracts on for Downing, Holtby, Johnson etc. Alongside costly loans and keep the likes of Evans, Smallwood, Mulgrew, Bennett etc on deals they didn't warrant. Some journey.
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  10. Christ, can we not just all agree that the owners AND the management team are responsible for our plight?
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  11. Why speculate it only causes you to get angrier than you already are? Rovers are a very poorly run club, we are on the back foot already and the season hasnt even started yet. There has been very poor planning, management is awful and it is clear there are players who do not trust or back mowbray. I am definately in the mowbray out club, he is taking us down and waggot is shoving the club into oblivion.
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  12. Agree 100 percent. I'm a headteacher, if Ofsted graded our club we'd have been in Special Measures moons ago. We'd also have a new enforced senior management team drafted in. Shame the EFL doesn't offer something similar...
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  13. Welcome back Gav. Our kids are playing this year whether we sign 4 premier league loans or not, that much is clear. We have lost 11 players. The thing that pisses me off soo much is everyone at the club should have known this stripped back version of the transfer window was coming, and the kids should have been playing the last 4 games of last season to see who could hack it. Instead we had to watch Mowbray with his pathetic self preservation ploy. Sickening, and now we go into the Swansea game next week non the wiser. The whole senior management setup at the club is an absolute farce top to bottom.
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  14. I know you like a doomsday scenario. You’ve predicted a few. Looking at what is happening and signals such as staff leaving certainly suggests the club is run appallingly, there are serious issues with governance and in all likelihood we are never going to be back to where we all want to believe we belong (a separate debate - personally in modern day football I think we are right where we probably should be, bitter pill to swallow). But this is the great irony in what you are saying, Venkys pump in £20m+ a year. We are many many many things, but close to skint or admin ain’t one. The debt is assured against them, not the club (I do think you tend to bloviate in how you paint some of the financials on here - there are plenty of us who can read a P&L). The reality is we are are but a very small cog in their vast empire - they don’t need or want to care. It’s a bad investment that they are prepared to ignore and not admit defeat. Perhaps like that crap bottle or case you bought, but you’re too proud to admit it to yourself or your associates….. Do I like how rovers are run and the state we are in? Absolutely not. Do I want Mowbray and Waggott here? Of course not. But come on, none of this makes sense. We’re an absolute shambles and a classic example of why modern football is, frankly, rotten.
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  15. Seaon ticket renewed, out of loyalty rather than optimism. No new players at this stage, with squad likely to be propped up with Loans. We are a side gearing up for the championship, but in reality with a division 1 stroke 2 budget. This has been on the horizon since the clowns in Pune took over, regardless of who is sat in the dugout/boardroom. The club has been on the decline, will continue to decline and the fact we still have a club is a minor miracle given the mismanagement to all those involved since the changing of the guard. Season tickets/walkons will likely be at the same level or worse, than before Jack Walker bought the club. A 31000 all seater stadium which will be not even a third full including away support. An atmosphere, which will need life support to get you off your seat. Selling a player or two to stay afloat, then loaning a kid or two to plug the gap. Rovers are very stale, in terms of vision, management top to bottom and ownership from afar. I'd like to say I can't remember a more underwhelming run up to the new season, however since the Venkys, its been a recurring theme each season. We cant afford to buy players, or even match wage demands. When they sit down with potential targets, genuinely, how do we sell this club to the player? Only positive this season, is nice new kit, although that became a negative when they sold out in 48 hours. Whatever this season brings, i'm already resigned that this season, next season, the season after etc. Will be a continuation of decline. Enjoy the season fellow supporters and cherish the memories
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  16. If money is needed quickly I would rather lose AA for less money than expected rather than lose the training ground forever.
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  17. It’ll be circa £3 / month and released as soon as we can get it ready. That £3 is roughly what each member generates in ad income each month for the site. I know people are talking about AdBlockers - to be absolutely clear, if everyone on the website runs an adblocker the site will go under. It costs money to maintain and if you don’t see the ads, we don’t gain the revenue to pay the bills. The ads are the main source of income. So I would hope everyone would either put up with the ads to help us keep the site alive… or sign up for the ad free version when released.
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  18. You talk about 28-29 year old's as though they are ancient and on their last legs. Tugay was 31 when we signed him, McCarthy was 29, Savage was 30, Nelsen was approaching 28, Dunn was 28 when he resigned, Salgado was 33, Givet was approaching 29 and Ooijer was 32. I don't worry about their age I worry more about what they are going to bring to the team.
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  19. Community use? Since when was the purpose of our training ground to provide a facility for the community to use? With the demands of a professional football club, academy, full time staff, rehab there simply isn't the space or time for locals to use the facilities Nor do we want them there. BwD has perfectly adequate sports facilities as it is. If the community want more they can pester the council for it. Not Rovers job to provide facilities for people in Blackburn to use. I'm from Hyndburn. Would I be able to use these facilities? Accy Stanley have recently erected steel fencing to prevent locals using their training pitch so why would we be any different? Why should Joe Bloggs who supports United and does nothing for Rovers but lives in BWD get any benefit from our facilities? Do folk from Salford get to go and use Carrington for a kick about?
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  20. The sad thing is To fix it, it would be pretty simple. Sack the trio, Bring back Tom Finn and appoint him as Executive Chairman, Ainsworth in as manager and give them £3m for players and what ever they raise as well.
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  21. I will always get behind the players on the pitch (even though my Riverside upbringing means I'll have the occasional moan too!) but I will never be reconciled with the arrogance being shown by the gurning goon, the spivmaster general or the loons from Pune. Until there is a broom through Blackburn Rovers, wielded by people who care about the status, standing and future prospects of the club, then we are being asked to support a hollow shell that is Blackburn Rovers only in name, and not in nature - remember, Arte et Labore should not be an afterthought; it should be the raison d'etre.
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  22. Christ, here we go again, I didn't think they would have the brass neck to try again quite so soon. This is the one thing they shouldn't be allowed to get away with, players come and go and can be replaced. Once infrastructure is gone it's gone and the current incumbents at Ewood won't be here much longer anyhow due to their age if nothing else. If a progressive manager who was taking us places and a forward thinking CEO had a different vision for the Training facilities that might be a bit different. But this lot will just bugger off into the sunset leaving us with nothing. For me this was why it was so imperative they were all replaced at the end of last season before they had chance to revisit this scheme.
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  23. My two penneth Positives Defended really well against a fluid, Premier League quality Marcelo Bielsa team, which contained several of their bigger names (Rodrigo, Raphinha, Harrison etc) All of the younger lads acquitted themselves well and by the end, all had done their first team chances no harm indeed. Notable shout-outs to Garrett, Carter and Magloire. All played 90 minutes and defended, headed, tackled and work hard throughout. All three will be involved more this season I'll bet, and based on last night, they have something to add to the squad. Of the others, nice run by Cirino, McBride rides his luck with the goal (but at least his free kick was on target) for his second of preseason. Him as a fourth/fifth striker option isn't the worst news. Nyambe, getting better each season, nothing new to report. Pickering, I think he's getting a bit of undue flack on here! Based on last night, I think he's a ''Steady Eddy'' type at left back, More of a Michael Gray/Alan Wright type than a dynamic fullback, but handled Raphinha as best he could. I can say this with absolute certainty.......He won't face too may Raphinha level wingers in the Championship! Mention too for John Buckley, some very nice moments, some frustrating ones too, a couple of beautiful passes, a couple of ''who was he passing to there?'' moments. Never shirks a challenge to be fair to him, big season ahead. Brereton Diaz - A different beast all together, more like a £7.5m potential star of the future than we've ever seen down at Ewood before, plus the stadium (or at least where I was sat in the Blackburn End) came to life whenever he had the ball. Kaminski also looked every bit the keeper that won Player of the Year last season. Negatives Armstrong looked completely isolated up top in that system, and his shooting boots where on the wrong feet! Pike and Vale couldn't make the same impact as some of the other substitutes, poor header from Pike for the Leeds goal, but I think both need some first team football in League 1/2 this season. No Butterworth either, which is a shame, after his MotM cameo at Fylde and he played against Bradford too. Nothing too major in the negatives in regards to play and ball retention as it was a very young team against a team heading in the right direction in the Premier League, but still sloppy at times, particularly going forward. Overall Before even speaking about the match.....How brilliant it was to be back inside Ewood. Feeling that connection with the team once again, and that feeling of pride at the final whistle. Great to be home! The kit looks fantastic, plenty wearing the shirts in the stands, saw both home and away on display! c.9,000 fans provided a great atmosphere for a pre-season match. Thankfully Rovers fans almost matched the Leeds fans 1 to 1, so made for a nice spectacle. Left the ground feeling more optimistic than I felt going in! In regards to almost everything! Off the pitch, how comfortable it felt being amongst a large group of people. The euphoria of being at a live match at Ewood and the feeling when the ball hit the back of the net. On the pitch, I still feel as though this season will be a battle from start to finish, and I'm predicting a lower middle placed finish, but I do feel we have enough to survive. Particularly with Gallagher, Johnson, Travis, Ayala and others to come in and come back.
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  24. ‘In it for the long haul’ normally implies owners who are willing to put their heart and soul into a club (or any other business, for that matter) and stay involved for as long as it takes, to either maintain standards or improve them. This set of uninterested, absent landlords have done the exact opposite, have relegated us twice and put us in a position where our standing in the Championship is looking frail to say the least. We are only going in one direction and it’s not an upward trajectory. Protect Jack’s legacy? What a fucking joke! And a question you posed earlier about where would we be if we had run them out of town. The answer is probably still in the Premier League. We were an attractive, stable, relatively successful, family run PL club with state of the art training facilities and a supporter base of 20-22k, most of whom were season tickets holders. The Walker Trust sold us down the river and got rid to virtually the first buyers who appeared on the scene. Given time, they could (and should) have found more suitable buyers and certainly ones who would have upheld that legacy.
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  25. Spot on. There was no value whatsover in giving Downing, Evans et al game time towards the end of the season. Mowbray would have known that they were leaving. Pathetic.
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  26. Think this advert, whilst browsing this thread, couldn't have put it better.
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  27. Mowbray isn't the man to do it, but I'd actually be extremely happy if Rovers turned into an entertaining mid-table Championship side that blooded Academy players every year before selling them on for a profit. At least we'd have an identity. We've lacked that for over a decade. How I miss Hughes' Black-eye Rovers.
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  28. I can't believe how short sighted we have been with regards to recruitment. How, have we allowed ourselves to get into a situation whereby we now have such a thin squad, not only are we relying on our own youth players to make the step up but we have to go and loan other peoples young players in order to have a reasonable sized squad. Shambolic really. Someone needs to be pulling Mowbray up on his journey and building a squad comments, it was all clearly bullshit.
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  29. That was a good watch with plenty of our talented youngsters on show. Plenty of effort too.
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  30. Just what is really driving this Brockall stuff though ? When the owners continue to 10/20 million in at the top end and allow contracts for the likes of Ayala why is the club so desperate for a couple of million quid from a land sale ? This really really stinks and could well be the worst move these lot have inflicted on this club. And that takes some doing yet the first mention of it and berks will come out of the woodwork saying it's a good idea. There is something at the heart of it very wrong and that will be some eyeing a quick few quid for their own pockets.
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  31. Probably a good half, or more, of our present fan base think Venky’s are a good thing. ‘Where would we be without them?’ comes the whine…’Nobody will buy us,’ comes the whimper. Well have a look at little Wigan Athletic then. Almost relegated from League One. Selling all their best players after going into Administration. Almost lost their ground. Tiny fan base. Surprise, surprise, somebody has bought them. Who would have thought it? These things don’t happen. Well, that’s what the bleaters of Blackburn think. Wigan now sold 6k season tickets as a L1 club, and they have only been on sale for three weeks. If Venky’s aren’t kicked out (and they won’t be, our passive supporters have already proved they haven’t the stomach for a fight), the status quo will remain. Except, it won’t be a status quo because there will be a downward trajectory. Until Venky’s leave, we are only going in one direction and our crowds will continue to diminish accordingly. If we aren’t already, we’ll become the laughing stock of the Lancashire town clubs. We had the chance to do something about it but fecked it up.
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  32. I can see us starting the season in similar fashion to Coventry did in 2016-17. The parallels are remarkable - team full of kids, not enough 'men', injury prone players and reliance on loans. I have to wonder how much of that is down to inept ownership and how much is down to an inept manager who is clearly stubborn and welded to his principles and over inflated opinion of himself. I think a few are going to be surprised by how far off it we are, distracted or misled by a good performance against Leeds the other day.
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  33. To be honest I would prefer to see Magloire and Carter being given opportunities this season instead of Ayala.
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  34. Firstly it felt amazing to be back in ewood watching live football again. The first thing I noticed was how much magloire had bulked up, he had a good game and would play along side lenihan from the off for me until Wharton is back and assess. Garrett looks tidy and played well, Dolan did what Dolan does and should get a lot more first team action this season. Brereton looks like a new man. I could smell the confidence ooze off him when he came on and he played really well. I take back all my comments because I was his biggest critic and had completely wrote him off. I was also Buckley’s fanboy and he showed again what he is capable of but still has these odd moments that cast doubt at senior level that he never showed at youth level . I’m hoping it’s all part of his learning curve. The one disappointing aspect for me was Pickering. No doubt shoot me because I’m basing this on one performance in a friendly but IMO he looked like a league one player and lacking the quality we will need going into the season. I hope I’m wrong but first showing not very convincing. so all in all, am glad to be back and regardless of where we finish there are a lot of good young lads that I will happily get behind week in week out no matter who owns us or is in the dugout . I still think it’s going to be a long season where we will struggle to stay up but being back in ewood with the effort those young lads put in reminds me why I’m a rover COYB
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  35. Just as an aside. I think our new head of recruitment needs an assistant and I am available. He will do nothing and I will help him.
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  36. Evolution not revolution remember. Now we've been through this before with this ownership so it's no surprise. Yet it all stems from backing the wrong horses again for what they allegedly wanted. A top 6 push with a mid budget but one better than a lot of similar teams in this division. For a brief spell everyone sang from the same hymn sheet after relegation. Auditors gave a plan, manager was set a target then got the backing it required. Job done, club on its uppers for first time in years and fans beginning to re-engage. A lesson there for all of how to run BRFC and what it's all about. Was it learned ? Was it #### it all began to slide again from then on because too much faith was thrust on those who'd achieved promotion. Owners wanted to invest and wanted the double bounce. Management etc wanted stability and to plod on moulding the club in their own image. People start pulling in the wrong direction again, lack of real target or direction. No ruthlessness on the field or off it to drive it forwards. Now here we are, seems we might finally get some ruthlessness. As always though with this set up it's going to be in all the wrong areas again. The whole lot not to clear off if we are ever truly to start over.
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  37. Youngsters won the Lancashire cup tonight against a poor Wigan side. Very one sided. A couple of new faces on display. A massive centre back named Ash Phillips. Handle himself well, very suprise to learn that he turned 16 this year as he was a big filled Out unit. Charlie weston, midfielder, Just turned 17. Was on the bench for the first team in preseason. Really like the look on him. Accomplished two way midfielder with good passing. Probably going to be fast tracked to U23 like Garrett Last year.
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  38. Talking about loaning SIX players. So let's just say he is budgeting around £50kpw for that "journey". Here's an idea, why not loan in two more established players of real quality, at positions of need, for £20kpw each and then use this plethora of young talent at our own elite level academy as backups. We don't need 6 extra bodies if they're going to be Jarrod Braithwaite, Marten Samuelsen, Mo Barrow, Jack Byrne and Rakeem Harper. We need starting 11 quality additions. Elliott, Harwood-Bellis and Tosin have all just about checked that box. But don't forget the likes of Tyrone Mings, Mason Mount, Reece James, Harvey Barnes and Ben White were all on loan in this division 2 years ago. Set some type of fucking bar, Tony. Please.
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  39. Sadly, there are always fans who swallow these kind of “plans”. Just as they swallow the idea that selling your best players and replacing them with untried youngsters from lower leagues with a “potential” sell on profit is a good idea, or the right way to go. When you don’t have any money there’s no reason why it should take season upon season to build a decent squad. There’s as much chance of getting a squad together in the first couple of seasons as there is in six seasons. You can’t gradually build when you’re skint anyway because anyone half decent wouldn’t hang around for too long either. If Mowbray was capable - we’d have seen it well before now. Long term plans are for the benefit of one man, the manager.
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  40. Nor is it all on Rothwell. You don't buy players with potential to passively hope they get better, you actively try to coach them. Given how many players have regressed under Mowbray, Venus, and Lowe, I'm more inclined to place the blame there.
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  41. This. There's minimal benefit to the owners of this. Running cost wise the savings would be insignificant out of £20 million a year. This is also something that they could have explored and progressed many year ago if they were interested in such 'projects' yet nothing has happened. No the drivers of this are the middle men between Ewood Park and India. As you say why so desperate to get this done? Is this for the owners benefit, the club's benefit or others benefit? This is the key question that needs investigating. Much can happen in the chasm between here and Pune. Personally I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them.
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  42. I'm still waiting for the excuses about Covid and how this has demolished our season ticket base. Of course the reality is that this isn't having a serious impact on sales elsewhere and actually at many clubs is actually seeing increasing numbers of sales. Bolton - 9000+ Wigan - 6000+ Rovers - about 5000 supposedly Now there can be no more damning data than that on the state this club finds itself in. And yet we are supposed to be grateful to Venkys for ensuring we don't go the same way as Bolton and Wigan. Tell you what - I'd take Bolton's position over ours right now. Debt free, 9000+ season tickets, unity, new ownership and a bright young manager.
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  43. We lose 400k a week because of them and their incompetence, negligence and disinterest. If someone seriously hurt you on purpose and offered to pay for your medical care indefinitely, but did so ineffectively so you stayed at a rubbish hospital, would you thank them?
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  44. Sorry I'm confused by this statement, Brereton still yet to show us what he can actually do? I'm really yet to see a championship level player.
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  45. Still hope it's bust for Mowbray and we give Ainsworth a call.. That would mean a Huge difference.
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  46. I would be tempted to swap Mowbray for Chaddy🥴
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  47. I thought we were awful today. The back five just didn't work with Carter and Magloire looking lost at times. Magloire seemed to be asked to step into midfield for some reason and then got caught out. The wing back system didn't work at all with both full-backs having their hands full against a lively Bolton attack. Early days but Pickering strikes me as one who enjoys going forward but isn't so hot when it comes to defending and got a bit of a chasing at times today. Hopefully, it's just teething problems as he gets to know the players around him. I know Travis has been ill and lost weight but he looked anything but fit and Davenport really struggled. Again, the system didn't work as we were overwhelmed and outgunned in midfield. A week away from the start of the League season and we looked a disorganised mess for much of this game. I can't remember ever going into a new season with such a feeling of dread with regard to the outcome. I was impressed with Bolton and former Rover Alex Baptiste seems just the sort of defender we need - experienced, calm under pressure and one who won every ball he went for. Pity our manager doesn't do proper defenders.
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  48. Without doubt Mark. For a club with our catchment area and rapidly changing demographics in the town we just couldn’t afford a decade like this. We’ll never get back to where we were in the late 2000s. They’ve wrecked the fanbase beyond repair.
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  49. Exactly, what a likeable lad he is. I'd written him off but I don't think I've ever wanted to see someone succeed more than him.
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