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1 hour ago, blueboy3333 said:

There will be a lot of  southern teams in League 1 next season.  Never thought I'd be potentially grateful for short trips to Bury, Rochdale and Oldham:(

Possibly a day out at Blackpool :rover:

Glad to know last game is on Sky TV, albeit for the wrong reason. Does anyone know if game will be shown in Blues Bar?

Nervous week before we get conformation of which league and what (if anything) the future holds. 

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I can see Birmingham losing and Forest winning next week.  Ipswich at home is as easy a game as you could ask for while Brizzle away is tough as they are on a great run and everyone wants to finish strongly at home.  Same applies to Brentford I suppose.

We seem to have been doing enough to stay in it for the last couple of months while never quite doing enough to get out of the bottom 3 when the chance is there.  It will probably go to the last minute whatever happens.

No doubt we deserve to go down with the way the club is run and the fact we have been in the bottom 3 just about all season but if we can manage a win I think we'll might just scab it.

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45 minutes ago, McClarky said:

I can see Birmingham losing and Forest winning next week.  Ipswich at home is as easy a game as you could ask for while Brizzle away is tough as they are on a great run and everyone wants to finish strongly at home.  Same applies to Brentford I suppose.

We seem to have been doing enough to stay in it for the last couple of months while never quite doing enough to get out of the bottom 3 when the chance is there.  It will probably go to the last minute whatever happens.

No doubt we deserve to go down with the way the club is run and the fact we have been in the bottom 3 just about all season but if we can manage a win I think we'll might just scab it.

Don't know why you are posting anymore Neil, you appear to be more interested in St Pauli.

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The only real hope is Brum not doing better than a draw, and us winning. If not, then we will have to win by several goals to make up the goal difference vs Forest. Roller-coaster of death is on.

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I will be surprised if we survive I cant remember a team spending so long in the bottom 3 and surviving I think we have only been out of the bottom 3 for 2 weeks all season.Thought we would go down after first game, squad just not good enough for any league, has anyone gone down with out being in the bottom 3 until the final whistle of the last game?

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I expect Forest to win on Sunday, Birmingham not to win and us not to be good enough to win either sending us down.

If we can pull off a humongous win then I think it's more likely Brum will slip up than Forest.

If the gods are really on our side Forest will lose by 2 more goals than us !

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2 hours ago, had.e.nuff said:

I will be surprised if we survive I cant remember a team spending so long in the bottom 3 and surviving I think we have only been out of the bottom 3 for 2 weeks all season.Thought we would go down after first game, squad just not good enough for any league, has anyone gone down with out being in the bottom 3 until the final whistle of the last game?

It's a long time ago so probably more accurate if someone researches........ but I seem to remember a Dave Bassett-managed Sheff Utd getting relegated from the top flight (might have been pre-Prem days).  I think their first venture into the relegation places all season was about 10 mins from the end of their last game.

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Just now, Neil Weaver said:

It's a long time ago so probably more accurate if someone researches........ but I seem to remember a Dave Bassett-managed Sheff Utd getting relegated from the top flight (might have been pre-Prem days).  I think their first venture into the relegation places all season was about 10 mins from the end of their last game.

I said a week or two ago I  could see a side thinking they were completely safe with 20 mins to go on the last day then bang, a couple of quick goals in different games and they're gone.

Let's hope Forest or Brum are this years "Sheffield United".

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Trying to remain positive.

This season is now about hope after so much disappointment. We look to be hanging on by the skin of our teeth but as Greavesie said, its a funny old game. Who would have thought we could take 6 points off Newcastle.

Well done to the travelling 1,600 going on Sunday, hope this Sunday is a day of celebration for all of us.

 

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Just now, rog of the rovers said:

From 20th July 2016

Wish I'd put more on!

 

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I was as sure as sure could be we'd go down and I said so on this site the day we appointed Coyle. It looked like money in the bank but I could never back against us though.

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Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I was as sure as sure could be we'd go down and I said so on this site the day we appointed Coyle. It looked like money in the bank but I could never back against us though.

It pained me to do so, but seeing as I never win bets, I hoped I'd jinx us to stay up!

Alas, not

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4 hours ago, rog of the rovers said:

From 20th July 2016

Wish I'd put more on!

 

roversbet.jpg

That £50 will be like One-Eyed Willy's treasure.

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I've seen enough. It must be patently obvious to even the most rabid Rovers fan that there is something seriously wrong at the club. We are sinking like a stone down the table and although we have a cushion above the relegation places it  could  still be touch and go whether we stay up.  

Assuming we do stay up what happens next season ? As it stands, it is clear that this squad under this manager is relegation fodder. It is too old, too slow, unbalanced, with too many weary and demotivated players who are not good enough for this division. And it is badly led by a negative and weak manager who is tactically suspect and has failed to address defensive failings that have been apparent throughout his time at the club.

So, as i see it, the squad needs wholesale reconstruction, with as many as 7 players from today's starting line up needing to be replaced and requiring the owners to spend substantial sums in the summer.  Will they do it ? And is Mowbray the right man to continue managing the club ?  Some big changes are required because even at this early stage the portents for next season do not look good at all. 

 

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Good post but I'm more worried about this season's relegation battle at the moment. We currently do have a cushion but it will disappear very quickly if we cary on like this.

Yes, the owners need to spend big in summer.Yes, the team is too old and slow. But right now, the answer is to get some more hungry, quick and tireless youngsters in. Team needs turning round, Parkes did it.

Will the owners splash the cash in summer? Doubt it given the farce of Brereton.

Will they sack Mowbray? Doubtful, given the latitude they showed Kean.

We really are in a mess and always will be so long as Venkys are the owners. I truly despair.

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1 hour ago, 47er said:

We really are in a mess and always will be so long as Venkys are the owners. I truly despair.

This is the key issue - the owners.

We can rant and rave about the manger ( who isn't good enough) and the team ( who aren't good enough) but until we get owners who understand football and care about the club we are going nowhere. We need a proper board and infrastructure to allow us to function as a real football club with ambitions. The owners are the root of all our problems.

I don't rate Mowbray at all but I don't think anyone will succeed at Rovers under Venky's. I think we need to ramp up the protests again. Venky's Out.

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7 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

. And it is badly led by a negative and weak manager who is tactically suspect and has failed to address defensive failings that have been apparent throughout his time at the club.

 

 

Bingo. He also blames everyone but himself for the teams failings. 

I don't rate him at all and have no faith he will bring in the players needed to make us better. His record in the transfer market is frankly very poor. 

Trouble is he won't be sacked by the idiots running the club. I include his mate Waggott in that. 

Edited by blueboy3333

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10 hours ago, Crimpshrine said:

This is the key issue - the owners.

We can rant and rave about the manger ( who isn't good enough) and the team ( who aren't good enough) but until we get owners who understand football and care about the club we are going nowhere. We need a proper board and infrastructure to allow us to function as a real football club with ambitions. The owners are the root of all our problems.

I don't rate Mowbray at all but I don't think anyone will succeed at Rovers under Venky's. I think we need to ramp up the protests again. Venky's Out.

You can't blame Venkys for team selection, tactics and fitness, that's down to the whole of the footballing team, primarily ToMo 

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Just now, DeeCee said:

You can't blame Venkys for team selection, tactics and fitness, that's down to the whole of the footballing team, primarily ToMo 

There's no Board, existing staff are promoted from within with no selection process beyond their level of competence, we haven't got the back-up staff we need---even TM is complaining there's no Euro scouting network, important decisions have to go through India to be ratified by people who have hardly ever set foot in Ewood, we never have any idea from year to year what the transfer budget will be or even if there's going to be one, there's a history of players being sold over the manager's head whether its in the interests of the club or not. I could go on.

You think these factors have no effect on team performance? Only if you don't think beyond the 90 minutes.

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Just now, 47er said:

There's no Board, existing staff are promoted from within with no selection process beyond their level of competence, we haven't got the back-up staff we need---even TM is complaining there's no Euro scouting network, important decisions have to go through India to be ratified by people who have hardly ever set foot in Ewood, we never have any idea from year to year what the transfer budget will be or even if there's going to be one, there's a history of players being sold over the manager's head whether its in the interests of the club or not. I could go on.

You think these factors have no effect on team performance? Only if you don't think beyond the 90 minutes.

At the moment, the 90 minutes is the most important otherwise we'll be back in Div. 1.  Then we'll see what the infrastructure would be, absolutely pathetic I would imagine

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11 hours ago, 47er said:

Good post but I'm more worried about this season's relegation battle at the moment. We currently do have a cushion but it will disappear very quickly if we cary on like this.

Current odds on getting relegated are being given at about 350-500 to 1. Guess you should put a fiver down?

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Just now, RoverCanada said:

Current odds on getting relegated are being given at about 350-500 to 1. Guess you should put a fiver down?

They are good odds and I hope Mercer is listening!

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