OJRovers Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 1.6 goals conceded per game is atrocious. "Standout candidate" though according to spreadsheet Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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den Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I agree. We need to be tough to beat. Coyle isnt a manager who can do tho. And I dont think we have the midfield who can do this either. Thats why with the current squad I would go all out attack. 3 strikers. Kevin Keegan approach. Good point there. Trying to out score the opposition is total folly Chaddy. Good players, discipline and organisation is the only way forward. That's what a manager should bring to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHRover Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Great work JHR. This should go on a PowerPoint presentation and be sent to Charlie Cheston. It took me about 30 minutes to do that research on my laptop the other week. Somehow I get the feeling that the people who led the managerial 'search' and then proclaimed Coyle as the 'standout candidate' won't have delved into such alarming figures or even considered his appalling record. It wouldn't surprise me if Cheston couldn't even name the previous clubs Coyle has managed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Rover Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 how many goals do we score on average per game - 1.15 How many goals do Brighton score - 1.5 They concede on average 0.5 We concede on average 1.6 I think the writing is on the wall for this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davulsukur Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 how many goals do we score on average per game - 1.15 We concede on average 1.6 = Relegation This is all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Rover Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Trying to out score the opposition is total folly Chaddy. Good players, discipline and organisation is the only way forward. That's what a manager should bring to the club. I'm no fan of Owen Coyle but I bet most fans would rather see goals at both ends with an awful squad, than 0-1 losses with an awful squad den. One thing seems certain at the moment, we'll not see many 0-0 draws, be that a good thing or a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Trying to out score the opposition is total folly Chaddy. Good players, discipline and organisation is the only way forward. That's what a manager should bring to the club. Thats Coyle approach IMO. Hes not a manager who can organised a defenceWe need to sort out the defence and make is a stronger unit. Lenihan and Hoban at centre back when Hoban is fit. Mulgrew and Evans in front of them would be my way. Need a proper right back in cos Marshall isnt a right back and not good enough defensively Gav, I would settle for 1 nil wins every game. But I would still like to see us play attacking passing football but you cant always play that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Gav, I would settle for 1 nil wins every game. But I would still like to see us play attacking passing football but you cant always play that way Remember when we were a top 10 PL team under Big Sam and some on here hated Sam's style. Now we are bottom of the Championship serving up copious quantities of dross -'hoofball' - apart from a couple of decent moves each game. Oh for those halcyon days of 2010 pre Venky's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverCanada Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Totally agree, if you look at the Newcastle result its an outlier, if you were plotting a graph/analysis of performance in a business environment that result would be excluded. Lets ignore those first two games against Norwich and Wigan then too That Cardiff game with Duffy looks quite the outlier too hehe... ... We've averaged 1.23 goals for and 1.23 goals against in the past 13 games. Which would be roughly equivalent to 12th and 10th in the league for the year, respectively. We've upgraded to mediocre, but those first 7 games are still a noose around Coyle. And those games coincided with the upheaval of losing his top 2 CBs for nothing. Coyle for Manager of the Year! *runs for my life* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllRoverAsia Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Agent Coyle is a thick git. I have come to detest him http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/14962566.Owen_Coyle_says_there__39_s_no_hard_feelings_towards_Shane_Duffy_ahead_of_Blackburn_Rovers_return/?ref=mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHRover Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Sucking up to Brighton. Obviously grateful for the money they paid and hopeful they'll come in for someone else (Marshall) in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chor808 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Thats Coyle approach IMO. Hes not a manager who can organised a defence We need to sort out the defence and make is a stronger unit. Lenihan and Hoban at centre back when Hoban is fit. Mulgrew and Evans in front of them would be my way. Need a proper right back in cos Marshall isnt a right back and not good enough defensively Gav, I would settle for 1 nil wins every game. But I would still like to see us play attacking passing football but you cant always play that way Hang on a minute did he not bring in Wes Brown to help sort the defence, what the heck is he doing whilst we are shipping goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverCanada Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hang on a minute did he not bring in Wes Brown to help sort the defence, what the heck is he doing whilst we are shipping goals. The Brown signing is bizarre and whatever he's getting paid is probably a crime. (The combination of Hoban, Greer, and Mulgrew were decent additions given the complete lack of a transfer budget, though Greer has his limitations and Mulgrew is of course quite injury-prone - hence why they were free and are playing for us! Hoban's injury may be overlooked by some as a particularly bad break for the backline... Lenihan's looked good in spurts, but I'm not entirely convinced by him just yet, like any young player) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggyBlue Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hang on a minute did he not bring in Wes Brown to help sort the defence, what the heck is he doing whilst we are shipping goals. No and it has been posted before that he was brought in to help the U23's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllRoverAsia Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 No and it has been posted before that he was brought in to help the U23's He was originally brought in after a long trial period to play in the Championship. His other roles are afterthoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I agree. We need to be tough to beat. Coyle isnt a manager who can do tho. And I dont think we have the midfield who can do this either. Thats why with the current squad I would go all out attack. 3 strikers. Kevin Keegan approach. Good point there. Going 4-3-3 with the players we've got is asking to get dicked. I remember Wales having 3 top class centre forwards. Wyn Davies , Ron Davies, and John Toshack. All outstanding goal scorers in the old First Division. One match they got desperate and played all three. They got hammered because there was nobody to provide the service for the front three. I'd do what Hughsey did and go 4-5-1. He had Dickov up front on his own. Tell Graham to run his nuts off up front until half time and then bring Emnes with the same instructions for the second half. Pack the midfield with scrappers and the odd animal ( The Axe ) and make teams dread coming up against us. Trouble with that plan is we've not got enough scrappers. All our midfielders are a bit averse to rolling their sleeves up and getting stuck in. Evan's is twice the player for Northern Ireland, Lowe's just an headless chicken and our one authentic midfield battler, Lenihan, is having to play centre half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggyBlue Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 He was originally brought in after a long trial period to play in the Championship. His other roles are afterthoughts. He's off the pace when he plays with the U23's, there's no way he'd ever be considered for the Championship unless we were really really desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Agent Coyle is a thick git. I have come to detest himhttp://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/14962566.Owen_Coyle_says_there__39_s_no_hard_feelings_towards_Shane_Duffy_ahead_of_Blackburn_Rovers_return/?ref=mac He asked me how much I wanted - so I told him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Rover Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Dropped himself in it there, contradicts the "we don't want to sell our best players" line he was spinning earlier in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllRoverAsia Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Dropped himself in it there, contradicts the "we don't want to sell our best players" line he was spinning earlier in the year.Motormouth Coyle rarely engages his brain before speaking. No doubt Agent Coyle will have a chat to his mate Chris this evening and try to agree a fee for Marshall. Naturally I am not for a moment suggesting that Owen has anything other than Rovers best interests at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Coyle's here to sell and plug the holes for nothing that's his job his wheeler dealer instincts and contacts work both ways. Lambert wanted no part of it as soon as he realised it wouldn't be reinvested, this guy couldn't wait to get into it. There'll be much more of the same in the next 7/8 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABBEY Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 No and it has been posted before that he was brought in to help the U23's an afterthought to appease us peasants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 To cover the fact they'd probably already signed him in the summer but kept it under wraps then got jittery when they realized they couldn't get him fit to play. Bulldust plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldgregg86 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Be interesting to see marshalls effort levels tonight. Can see a mom performance for the wrong reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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