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On 13/01/2020 at 15:50, chaddyrovers said:

we are going have to agree to disagree on this. 

I would say that International law shouldn't be protecting Terrorists and the countries have the right to take them out in my opinion

There’s no agree to disagree here chaddy, you are completely in the wrong. 
 

International law protects everyone and the term “terrorist” means different things to different people. In WW2, French “terrorists” helped disrupt the Nazis in France. We called them “The French Resistance” but they engaged in assassination missions, bombings, and killed innocent people as well as their targets. By your standards they were certainly terrorists, and throughout occupied Europe there were similar underground movements that targeted the occupying forces. Whenever these movements were foiled they were put down with violence and execution, often without trial. Is that acceptable to you? The French are very proud of the resistance, should they stop glorifying terrorism?
 

The man you call an Iranian terrorist was many things to many people. He was a hero to many Iranians, a respected General, a father to his children, and no doubt a wicked, dangerous man to many others. Labelling him as a terrorist that planned to kill American and British forces is a dangerous simplification. British and American forces have caused innocent blood to be spilled around the world, what happens if someone decides that we are the terrorists and it’s ok to commit violence in foreign countries to stop a warmongering leader?

 

Violence is always wrong. Attacking people in other countries is an act of war. If Russia or China had committed this act we’d be up in arms and rightly so. The assassination was wrong chaddy, think about it.

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45 minutes ago, The Hypnotic said:

Good post. Exactly what Jeremy Corbyn said. Prepare yourself for a right wing reaction 

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1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Amazing measures being put in place in China to combat the Coronavirus. Could you see the UK reacting so drastically ?

1939-1945 would suggest that you could.

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Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I was thinking more this century to be honest.

Depends on the assessment of the challenge that is faced. You don't say what measures that the Chinese are imposing that you are referring to but if you mean clampdowns on travel and building of hospitals you have to remember that China is not a democracy whereas in the UK the government would potentially face challenges in the courts and complaints regarding planning and green types arguing against building on the green belt. That sort of opposition can only be overcome if the government assume the sort of emergency powers that it had in the last war.

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1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Amazing measures being put in place in China to combat the Coronavirus. Could you see the UK reacting so drastically ?

Boris gave them all a leaflet then let them all loose on the crowds. What more do you expect? The Tories do love a good leaflet.

As for China. If they could sort out their hygiene and animal welfare standards in the first place they probably wouldn't be where they currently find themselves.

Hopefully the UK can get a decent trade deal with them as we could do with a good population cull.

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16 hours ago, perthblue02 said:

Some top trolling from Wigan Warriors with the news the god-botherer has signed for Catalans Dragons

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jan/28/israel-folau-switches-codes-again-to-sign-for-catalans-dragons-rugby-league?CMP=share_btn_tw

"His views are abhorrent in a modern world" - It seems the Wakefield Trinity chief executive has never heard of this ancient thing called religion that dominates the modern world.

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21 minutes ago, Amo said:

Probably wouldn’t have hurt you to be show some class, when people have died, instead of attempting to score cheap points.

Especially as no details about the attacker have been released yet...
But then, you did think The Holocaust was exaggerated, so maybe my expectations of you are too high.

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12 hours ago, K-Hod said:

Probably wouldn’t have hurt you to be show some class, when people have died, instead of attempting to score cheap points.

Especially as no details about the attacker have been released yet...
But then, you did think The Holocaust was exaggerated, so maybe my expectations of you are too high.

1. No one died, except some worthless terrorist

2. Oh he’s been named. “Sudesh Amman” released early for terror offences. 

3. Keep playing that holocaust card. Never gets old. 

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2 hours ago, Amo said:

1. No one died, except some worthless terrorist

2. Oh he’s been named. “Sudesh Amman” released early for terror offences. 

3. Keep playing that holocaust card. Never gets old. 

Probably the best all round.

At the time of posting, he hadn’t been named.

Thanks for your permission, you keep holding an awful view and it will continue to be referenced.

 

 

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On 03/02/2020 at 09:57, K-Hod said:

Probably the best all round.

At the time of posting, he hadn’t been named.

Thanks for your permission, you keep holding an awful view and it will continue to be referenced.

 

 

How many terrorist attacks have been carried out in London by white nationals in the past 15 years?

I don’t think you can blame anyone for assuming the religion of peace strikes again. If it quacks like a duck...

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2 hours ago, Amo said:

How many terrorist attacks have been carried out in London by white nationals in the past 15 years?

I don’t think you can blame anyone for assuming the religion of peace strikes again. If it quacks like a duck...

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-42910051

Don’t you remember this one? It wasn’t reported as a terrorist attack as he was white, but it was a copy of a previous terrorist attack, so for all intents and purposes, it was.
Blaming Islam is missing the point. It’s a minority of some 1.8 billion that have been brainwashed. 
If it was solely Islam to blame, we’d really be in bother, as Muslims make up about 25% of the word population. 

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There was a security consultant on Sky News yesterday that stated, of the foiled terrorist attacks, about 30% were from White Far Right groups, so plenty - they just don't make it into the Daily Heil or Express for reporting  because it doesn't fit their agenda. but here's a couple that weren't foiled to be getting a long with.

  • 2013, 29 April to 12 July: Pavlo Lapshyn, a Ukrainian student and right-wing extremist, fatally stabbed Birmingham resident Mohammed Saleem on 29 April. Lapshyn later detonated a home-made bomb outside a mosque in Walsall on 21 June.[45] On 28 June, Lapshyn detonated a second home-made bomb near a mosque in Wolverhampton, and attacked a mosque in Tipton with an improvised explosive device containing nails on 12 July. He later admitted to police that he wished to start a "race war"[46] and was sentenced to serve at least 40 years.[47][48][49]
  • 2014, 10–14 February: The New Irish Republican Army (NIRA) claims responsibility for a series of parcel bombs sent to army recruitment offices in Oxford, Brighton, Canterbury, Slough, Aldershot, Reading and Chatham.[51][52]
  • 2016, 16 June: Murder of Jo Cox – Thomas Mair, a 52-year-old white nationalist, shot and stabbed the MP Jo Cox outside a surgery in Birstall, West Yorkshire, and severely wounded a passerby who came to her aid. The attack was treated as an act of terrorism,[53] and in sentencing Mair to life imprisonment the judge said "There is no doubt that this murder was done for the purpose of advancing a political, racial and ideological cause namely that of violent white supremacism and exclusive nationalism most associated with Nazism and its modern forms".[54]
  • 2017, 19 June: Finsbury Park attack – Darren Osborne, a 47 year old British man, drove a van into Muslim worshippers near Finsbury Park Mosque, London. A man who had earlier collapsed and was receiving first aid died at the scene. The incident was investigated by counter-terrorism police as a terrorist attack.[64][65][66] On 23 June, Osborne was charged with terrorism-related murder and attempted murder.[67][68] In February 2018 at Woolwich Crown Court, he was found guilty on both counts[69] and was sentenced to life imprisonment.
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Commas added for clarity

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On 04/02/2020 at 19:22, K-Hod said:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-42910051

Don’t you remember this one? It wasn’t reported as a terrorist attack as he was white, but it was a copy of a previous terrorist attack, so for all intents and purposes, it was.
Blaming Islam is missing the point. It’s a minority of some 1.8 billion that have been brainwashed. 
If it was solely Islam to blame, we’d really be in bother, as Muslims make up about 25% of the word population. 

Bolded for emphasis.

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4 minutes ago, Husky said:

It just shows what you can do when you're not allowed any other hobbies and interests, not to mention mixing with the opposite sex. 👍

Made me laugh like a lunatic on a packed train, many thanks Husky 😂😂😂

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Just now, Mashed Potatoes said:

As they are women clearly there is no possibility of them leading the Labour party.

As they are Muslims there is clearly no possibility of them joining the Conservative party

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/anti-muslim-group-says-5-000-members-join-conservatives/1686503

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/09/tory-candidate-linden-kemkaran-shared-tweet-claiming-muslims-play-race-card

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