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The ref just used the yellow to right on as he waited for confirmation in his ear.  

Totally obvious and unwarranted for any hysterics over it.

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I've a lot of sympathy for Aguero here. Some scrotey Wigan fan charges at you, scresming in your face, on the pitch after a big defeat. If I run on the pitch and did that to a professional athlete in those circumstances i'd expect a slap.

Aguero can't even just walk off the field as the fans are surrounding him and getting in front of him. So he's meant to carefully negotiate a way past the fans whilst putting up with a load of abuse.

 

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A good win sees a pitch invasion these days...

If what we all hopes happens, I presume Ewood will be subjected to one for the mighty achievement of getting out of the third division?

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1 hour ago, Rover_Shaun said:

The ref just used the yellow to right on as he waited for confirmation in his ear.  

Totally obvious and unwarranted for any hysterics over it.

Refs write on the card to be used/ shown. He pulled yellow too quickly as it was plainly going to be a red card offence.

I agree that he got further info confirming red.

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5 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Refs write on the card to be used/ shown. He pulled yellow too quickly as it was plainly going to be a red card offence.

I agree that he got further info confirming red.

Trust me he was going to show a yellow card until he was told it was red. That was the right decision but the amateur way they got there was embarrassing.

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Just now, arbitro said:

Trust me he was going to show a yellow card until he was told it was red. That was the right decision but the amateur way they got there was embarrassing.

Thanks for clearing it up.

Who decided it was a red? AR? Were they nearer the incident.

It did look a straight red to me.

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48 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Trust me he was going to show a yellow card until he was told it was red. That was the right decision but the amateur way they got there was embarrassing.

Once they got the decision right is the main thing though 

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51 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Thanks for clearing it up.

Who decided it was a red? AR? Were they nearer the incident.

It did look a straight red to me.

One of his colleagues advised him but the teamwork was poor. The message to send Delph off should have been immediate. Normally in that situation a referee would whip a red card out straight away to prevent any escalation and retribution.

A red for me too. Excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent.

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7 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Once they got the decision right is the main thing though 

Yes but it caused the Man City players and staff to accuse the Wigan players and management of influencing the referee to change his mind because to the vast majority of people that's how it appeared. For one of the top referees in the country it was poor in the extreme.

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2 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Yes but it caused the Man City players and staff to accuse the Wigan players and management of influencing the referee to change his mind because to the vast majority of people that's how it appeared. For one of the top referees in the country it was poor in the extreme.

Why? He didn't see it properly, so his assistant updated him. I don't see the problem. Of course city fans will complain. 

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3 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Why? He didn't see it properly, so his assistant updated him. I don't see the problem. Of course city fans will complain. 

Because the message should have been immediate to him from the official who presumably had a better view. The ensuing issues could have been prevented.

It was caused by the officials.

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3 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Because the message should have been immediate to him from the official who presumably had a better view. The ensuing issues could have been prevented.

It was caused by the officials.

They are only human. I really don't see the problem. It would be worse if they got the decision wrong. 

The only ones giving out are city and their reactions , manager and players ,after the games shows that they are extremely sore losers. Fans likewise. 

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29 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

They are only human. I really don't see the problem. It would be worse if they got the decision wrong. 

The only ones giving out are city and their reactions , manager and players ,after the games shows that they are extremely sore losers. Fans likewise. 

Guardiola said it was a red card post match fuelling the view that Wigan players and staff influenced the referee. Had he not got the yellow card out we wouldn't be having this debate and the decision accepted. In refereeing terms it was naive and elementary.

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Credit to the Wigan Stadium announcer/tune player for sticking oasis on at the end of the match just to rub it in :)

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1 hour ago, arbitro said:

Guardiola said it was a red card post match fuelling the view that Wigan players and staff influenced the referee. Had he not got the yellow card out we wouldn't be having this debate and the decision accepted. In refereeing terms it was naive and elementary.

So you don't think the Wigan players running in and surrounding the referee had a bearing on it then ? Then the guy gets up and plays on with not a care in the world.  I thought that sort of behaviour was being disciplined also ? Do you get that kind of behaviour in Rugby ? Ever asked yourself why ? What they don't realise is between them they are slowly killing the game.

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Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

So you don't think the Wigan players running in and surrounding the referee had a bearing on it then ? Then the guy gets up and plays on with not a care in the world.  I thought that sort of behaviour was being disciplined also ? Do you get that kind of behaviour in Rugby ? Ever asked yourself why ? What they don't realise is between them they are slowly killing the game.

Couldnt agree more. Here Here.

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36 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

  I thought that sort of behaviour was being disciplined also ? Do you get that kind of behaviour in Rugby ? Ever asked yourself why ? 

Because in rugby when they feel aggrieved by a decision they just punch and gouge the opposition in the next passage of play to take their frustration out.

If fotballers 'behaved' like a lot of rugby players do with regards to on field violence it would be shocking. The egg chasers get away with it as part of the game. Big Dunc got jailed for far less.

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Nice deflection of the real argument but no cigar.  Would you like to try to respond to the point I made about the respect shown by the players  in both codes of rugby to the match officials. When did you last hear a football player call the referee " Sir " ?

At least the violence is real and not " Hollywood " violence as in football.

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The ref really should've left his cards alone before the decision was finalised. Perhaps should've made a show checking with the 4th official?

I feel that if refs were mic'd up to the PA as in rugby, so many issues would be resolved, including players giving them abuse.

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5 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Nice deflection of the real argument but no cigar.  Would you like to try to respond to the point I made about the respect shown by the players  in both codes of rugby to the match officials. When did you last hear a football player call the referee " Sir " ?

At least the violence is real and not " Hollywood " violence as in football.

You asked a direct question - "ever asked yourself why?"

So I answered.

And then also pointed out why Rugby players get away with a hell of a lot which footballers would then get lynched for.

edit - Although having watched it again I agree that the Wigan players did a bit more than just complain. One of them actually runs into the ref and barges him a bit. I've no issue in appealing but it was OTT. So now I'm arguing both sides of this one 😀

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33 minutes ago, Hasta said:

You asked a direct question - "ever asked yourself why?"

So I answered.

And then also pointed out why Rugby players get away with a hell of a lot which footballers would then get lynched for.

edit - Although having watched it again I agree that the Wigan players did a bit more than just complain. One of them actually runs into the ref and barges him a bit. I've no issue in appealing but it was OTT. So now I'm arguing both sides of this one 😀

For me the refs have only themselves to blame for putting up with all the nonsense.  Whatever happened to the recent initiative were only the captain was supposed to approach the officials ? Maybe I dreamt that one.

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Blondes in football. When the draw takes place right in front of you then half a second later you make a total dogs dinner of repeating it and there were only 2 ties to remember 🤣🤣

Stick to channel 5 obscurity Lyndsey Hipgrave 😂😂

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43 minutes ago, Rover_Shaun said:

Blondes in football. When the draw takes place right in front of you then half a second later you make a total dogs dinner of repeating it and there were only 2 ties to remember 🤣🤣

Stick to channel 5 obscurity Lyndsey Hipgrave 😂😂

Give me Lyndsey any day over Trevor Brooking, the detail is secondary at this stage because we're never in it. 

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Tottenham Chokers FC. They have lost the last eight FA Cup semi finals that they have played in.

Let their media friends spin that one.

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