Blow-in Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, DE. said: According to the BBC only one team have gone on to win the tournament after losing their first game (Spain in 2010), so Germany have given themselves a mountain to climb already. The Mexicans worked hard and Germany looked clueless as to how to break them down. Italy lost their first game at USA 94 before making a run to the finals and technically not losing in the final as it was decided on penalties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Audax Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Brazil might not even get the monkey off their back here, but they do have to plod on... it might come around. Maybe it's time finally that the traditional powers fail and someone absolutely brand new runs the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Tom Posted June 17, 2018 Backroom Share Posted June 17, 2018 Unreal finish from Coutinho 1-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Are Switzerland really the 6th best team in the world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audax Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, Husky said: Are Switzerland really the 6th best team in the world? And Argentina are the 5th! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Stuart said: Linekar and Shearer couldn’t have been more delighted at the Germany defeat. They could barely contain their excitement. Like kids on Christmas Day! Me too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Golaaaaazzzzo! LOL! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbitro Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 And the VAR confusion goes on. Surely the Switzerland equaliser falls into the clear and obvious error category and should have been passed to the referee to review his decision. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, arbitro said: And the VAR confusion goes on. Surely the Switzerland equaliser falls into the clear and obvious error category and should have been passed to the referee to review his decision. And how about for that blatant dive in the area by Jesus? It's non stop confusion . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbitro Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, Husky said: And how about for that blatant dive in the area by Jesus? It's non stop confusion . . . Confusion is an apt description. There are too many grey areas as each review by the VAR is opinion and not fact. The referees will always make errors but when incidents are effectively re refereed and they still get it wrong then the overwhelming evidence is that VAR is more trouble than it is worth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Mike E Posted June 17, 2018 Backroom Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, Husky said: And how about for that blatant dive in the area by Jesus? It's non stop confusion . . . He should be crucified for that! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doaksie Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, Mike E said: He should be crucified for that! He was back up on his feet in less than three days too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, arbitro said: Confusion is an apt description. There are too many grey areas as each review by the VAR is opinion and not fact. The referees will always make errors but when incidents are effectively re refereed and they still get it wrong then the overwhelming evidence is that VAR is more trouble than it is worth. I know this isn't VAR but I do often wonder about the injury time too. Like sometimes they add 5 minutes on where there has seemingly been none which is also really noticeable in the extra time of the play-offs when they add 2 onto 15 etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audax Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Dumb foul by Zakkaria.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audax Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) Brazil got favourable home cooking last time vs. Croatia, Croatia really got gipped big-time. Congrats Switzerland, really nice.... I don't see as much mickey mouse officiating this time. Edited June 17, 2018 by Audax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchrover Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 The ever reliable Brazil have now blown their first game- must have something to do with me having them in work’s sweepstake ?. I sense this World Cup is going to be wide open come the knock outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbitro Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, Husky said: I know this isn't VAR but I do often wonder about the injury time too. Like sometimes they add 5 minutes on where there has seemingly been none which is also really noticeable in the extra time of the play-offs when they add 2 onto 15 etc. There does seem to be more than normal added in this WC so I wonder if Collina has told the referees to be more precise. In the laws it is called additional time. The injury time name is a real misnomer as I frequently hear people say there were no injuries, where did he get x minutes from. Additional time is an all encompassing description for injuries, cautions, substitutions, goals, time wasting etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted June 17, 2018 Backroom Share Posted June 17, 2018 Brazil looked awesome in the first 25 minutes or so, then lost their rhythm and never got it back. Great result for Switzerland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Tom Posted June 17, 2018 Backroom Share Posted June 17, 2018 Could be like the season Leicester won the league, the big boys not quite at their best meaning, hard work and organisation could see you through! A good start for us will see the expectation rise though so just a win will do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRochina Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 The most entertaining side I've seen up to know we're Peru of all teams ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 The ref plays to neymar's dives instead of neymar playing to the ref's whistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audax Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) Tunisia's FIFA #21; England #13. I would not shrug Tunisia off. Especially with a number of these games going in screwy directions like 2 of them today. https://us.soccerway.com/matches/2018/06/18/world/world-cup/tunisia/england/2166099/?ICID=HP_MS_01_03 https://uk.soccerway.com/teams/rankings/fifa/?ICID=TN_03_05_01 It sounds like a valid point, Neymar got fouled a lot, Brazil fouled James from Colombia last time.... 1998 World Cup, England defeated Tunisia 2-0, they had a friendly as a draw. Edited June 17, 2018 by Audax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, Audax said: Tunisia's FIFA #21; England #13. I would not shrug Tunisia off. Especially with a number of these games going in screwy directions like 2 of them today. https://us.soccerway.com/matches/2018/06/18/world/world-cup/tunisia/england/2166099/?ICID=HP_MS_01_03 https://uk.soccerway.com/teams/rankings/fifa/?ICID=TN_03_05_01 It sounds like a valid point, Neymar got fouled a lot, Brazil fouled James from Colombia last time.... 1998 World Cup, England defeated Tunisia 2-0, they had a friendly as a draw. Out of the 3 European teams that played today you'd have had Germany down as the least likely to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Im worried about tomorrow as its shown so far the smaller teams are capable of giving the bigger teams a good run for their money (england are a big team) 1-0 england Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I don’t get all the bellyaching over VAR. I’ve been quite impressed so far. We’ve stopped seeing soft penalties and diving in the box (with any intent to deceive) appears to have gone entirely. Swiss goal analysis? In the words of the inimitable Slaven Bilic: “to be fair, I don’t really care”. He’s the new Souness. Even made Roy Keane crack a brief smirk! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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