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Just now, JoeHarvey said:

He'll do one more year, and next summer he'll go. He's well within his rights to go next year too for me, he deserves the opportunity. The type of player than the English national side is begging for. Nobody in England's midfield takes the ball on the half turn like Dacky does.

Agree with the first bit but for me I feel as fans we overate him slightly, he’s not a patch on Grealish. 

His first season at this level though and the highest he’s played so fingers crossed for more consistency this term.

I think he’s a Dunny/Le Tissier type player, lacks pace to get to the top.

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Just now, Scotland1 said:

Agree with the first bit but for me I feel as fans we overate him slightly, he’s not a patch on Grealish. 

His first season at this level though and the highest he’s played so fingers crossed for more consistency this term.

I think he’s a Dunny/Le Tissier type player, lacks pace to get to the top.

I like him but I agree Grealish is a better player.

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17 minutes ago, Scotland1 said:

Agree with the first bit but for me I feel as fans we overate him slightly, he’s not a patch on Grealish. 

His first season at this level though and the highest he’s played so fingers crossed for more consistency this term.

I think he’s a Dunny/Le Tissier type player, lacks pace to get to the top.

A Championship modern era Dunn is as good a comparison as you can get I think.  Not on his level but similar enigma with the same build, refuelling, ego and bird issues it seems.

Dunny at least climbed to the top before he fell off his pedestal this lad will never get there unless he puts the graft in.

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1 hour ago, Scotland1 said:

Agree with the first bit but for me I feel as fans we overate him slightly, he’s not a patch on Grealish. 

His first season at this level though and the highest he’s played so fingers crossed for more consistency this term.

I think he’s a Dunny/Le Tissier type player, lacks pace to get to the top.

I think you mean 'very top' in the case of Dunn, he did play at PL and England levels.

Le Tissier was just brilliant, loyal to Soton and managed by fools at England level.

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1 hour ago, tomphil said:

A Championship modern era Dunn is as good a comparison as you can get I think.  Not on his level but similar enigma with the same build, refuelling, ego and bird issues it seems.

Dunny at least climbed to the top before he fell off his pedestal this lad will never get there unless he puts the graft in.

I agree, Dack could really benefit from sorting himself out physically and becoming more consistent in his performances.

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2 hours ago, Scotland1 said:

I think he’s a Dunny/Le Tissier type player, lacks pace to get to the top.

Happily take Dack failing as badly as Dunn or Le Tis.

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2 hours ago, JoeHarvey said:

He'll do one more year, and next summer he'll go. He's well within his rights to go next year too for me, he deserves the opportunity. The type of player than the English national side is begging for. Nobody in England's midfield takes the ball on the half turn like Dacky does.

This has to be a joke. Dack is not an international footballer - it's doubtful he's even good or fit enough to play in the Premier League

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7 minutes ago, philipl said:

Happily take Dack failing as badly as Dunn or Le Tis.

So would I but that’s not a Spurs or Everton player. It’s a mid table PL player at best 

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3 hours ago, Scotland1 said:

Agree with the first bit but for me I feel as fans we overate him slightly, he’s not a patch on Grealish. 

His first season at this level though and the highest he’s played so fingers crossed for more consistency this term.

In that first season at this level (not the case for Grealish) he scored 9 more goals and got the same number of assists. They're very different types of players, and I've not seen a lot of Grealish to say who I think is better, but the stats suggest 'not a patch' is a bit harsh on Dack.

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35 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

He’ll be in the England squad as soon as he seals that move to Man Utd.

Typical big club bias.

I’ve more chance of playing for Utd. Best Dack will play for is West Ham.

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3 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

This has to be a joke. Dack is not an international footballer - it's doubtful he's even good or fit enough to play in the Premier League

Nope, never a joke.

He is a Premier League style player. When given room to play (which he would be given at that level) he’s quality. Best player on the pitch against Everton and Liverpool last year.

He got the time and space naturally in League One because the defending was that poor, but somehow in the Championship he’s managed 20 something goal contributions whilst being man marked out of the game, often under extreme high press.

The same simply wouldn’t happen against most Premier League teams who adopt a very counter attacking, let the other team play, style. Hence his quality displays against Newcastle in the FA Cup also.

ps. It’s my opinion 😊👍🏻

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Dack isn’t good enough for the PL but mainly because of his attitude. If/when he leaves Rovers he probably end up like Bentley.

When he is sulking he can be a very lazy player but he gets a free pass because he regularly scores goals and/or makes assists. (Jordan Rhodes got dog’s abuse on here for similar attributes and look how he fared in the PL). Without natural pace he will really struggle to contribute much of either in today’s PL. Maybe 10-15 years ago but not now.

That said, I’ll be surprised if any decent team takes a punt because of his off-the-field distractions which is probably why the West Ham link keeps coming up.

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11 hours ago, Scotland1 said:

So would I but that’s not a Spurs or Everton player. It’s a mid table PL player at best 

Two of the most naturally gifted English born players of their respective generations?

And Everton are not mid table?

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Dack has the ability to play in the PL, I have no doubt about that but I have question marks over his application, desire and attitude. 

Also, comparisons between Grealish and Dack don't really wash. Different types of player. Grealish is a playmaker, better technique and can open teams up. Dack is more a second striker who has good ability on the ball, strong finishing skills and is an expert at making those perfectly timed runs.

Edited by JacknOry

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I think there are some comparisons which can be made with the careers of Dack and Simon Garner. I have no doubt if it hadn’t been for his liking for a pint glass and fags, Garner would have been snapped up by one of the big clubs, and would never have been at Ewood long enough to become the legend which he is. For very different reasons, Dack could well fall into the same category.

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2 hours ago, renrag said:

I think there are some comparisons which can be made with the careers of Dack and Simon Garner. I have no doubt if it hadn’t been for his liking for a pint glass and fags, Garner would have been snapped up by one of the big clubs, and would never have been at Ewood long enough to become the legend which he is. For very different reasons, Dack could well fall into the same category.

I've only seen Dack around the  Christmas / New Year period and he didn't look all that. Apparently he was having a dip in form at the time and he looked a little heavy and not quick enough for the Premier League. My mates, who are season ticket holders, tell me he's special and his goal against West Brom suggested that he might be but I'd be very surprised if the likes of West Ham or Palace would be prepared to stump up anything north of 12m.

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Just now, deryck guyler's spoon said:

I've only seen Dack around the  Christmas / New Year period and he didn't look all that. Apparently he was having a dip in form at the time and he looked a little heavy and not quick enough for the Premier League. My mates, who are season ticket holders, tell me he's special and his goal against West Brom suggested that he might be but I'd be very surprised if the likes of West Ham or Palace would be prepared to stump anything north of 12m.

I get what you're saying but the way Premier League teams are throwing the dosh at players you've never heard of means I wouldn't rule it out.

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Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I get what you're saying but the way Premier League teams are throwing the dosh at players you've never heard of means I wouldn't rule it out.

I think I might be one of the few that wouldn't mind too much if you were proved correct. 

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9 hours ago, JoeHarvey said:

Nope, never a joke.

He is a Premier League style player. When given room to play (which he would be given at that level) he’s quality. Best player on the pitch against Everton and Liverpool last year.

He got the time and space naturally in League One because the defending was that poor, but somehow in the Championship he’s managed 20 something goal contributions whilst being man marked out of the game, often under extreme high press.

The same simply wouldn’t happen against most Premier League teams who adopt a very counter attacking, let the other team play, style. Hence his quality displays against Newcastle in the FA Cup also.

ps. It’s my opinion 😊👍🏻

He's going to get more time and space in a technically, athletically and tactically superior league?

I don't think so.

Much like Grealish - if he was all that he'd have bossed the Championship. It only gets more difficult the higher you go in the pyramid.

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There's something to be said for Dack being the main man in this league, he's clearly our dangerman and plenty of teams have taken the approach 'stop Dack, stop Blackburn'.

For what it's worth, I think Dack's of the quality of a good (not CL) top fight team, but probably not to be talisman like he is for us now. Wouldn't put him in the same class as Le Tiss or Dunny (I'm still one of those who think under slightly different circumstances, Dunny would've played for one of the elite clubs with 50 caps for England). They could do it despite being marked men. But I see no reason whatsover if he was in Bournemouth's, Watford's, West Ham's teams, along with a few others, that he wouldn't slot right in there and do well. Playing with better players would do him the world of good in my opinion.

 

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31 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He's going to get more time and space in a technically, athletically and tactically superior league?

I don't think so.

Much like Grealish - if he was all that he'd have bossed the Championship. It only gets more difficult the higher you go in the pyramid.

You’re clearly ignoring my point. If you can’t see that Premier League teams, besides Man City, don’t adopt a high press, and let their opposition play, then you’re not looking hard enough.

Of course it’s a tougher league, but the style of Premier League football suits Dack’s playing style.

And both Dack and Grealish have “bossed the Championship”. He may have off days but over 20 goals contributions is awesome stuff.

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2 hours ago, renrag said:

I think there are some comparisons which can be made with the careers of Dack and Simon Garner. I have no doubt if it hadn’t been for his liking for a pint glass and fags, Garner would have been snapped up by one of the big clubs, and would never have been at Ewood long enough to become the legend which he is. For very different reasons, Dack could well fall into the same category.

Liverpool were keeping an eye on him for a while but in the end felt he was to small so size could have held Garner back a bit as well.

More similarities to Dunn really for me but yes he could end up just being happy plodding at Rovers because it allows him the lifestyle he has and pays him enough to sustain it. That won't last long with this modern breed though so couldn't see him reaching Garner status , Simon was obviously very settled around here with the mates he made and the pubs he went in.  Bradley will get bored before long he's more suited to the nightclubs of London and Essex I think.

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17 hours ago, Scotland1 said:

Agree with the first bit but for me I feel as fans we overate him slightly, he’s not a patch on Grealish. 

His first season at this level though and the highest he’s played so fingers crossed for more consistency this term.

I think he’s a Dunny/Le Tissier type player, lacks pace to get to the top.

I generally agree, but let's not forget that Tugay had no pace, and yet what he could do with the ball at his feet made him world-class. Dack could become a top-level player, and then potentially world-class, but it's a long-shot; right now, he is a good Championship player, and I'd be delighted if we kept him on. I wouldn't be too surprised to see him go to a Bournemouth (or similar) by the end of this window, though.

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