Dominic Samuel

[Oldgregg86]

I did my acl when I was 16 and 18. The latter did cartelidge and tendons to. I spent 18 months getting back to fitness. I soon realised I couldn't play the way I used to and the enjoyment went. By the time I was 21 I was fit for nowt. Couldn't go for run without knee pains, swelling etc. Can't play any sport involving twisting and turning. So I now cycle but even that leaves my knee stiff for days. I understood what Michael Owen was saying but if he should of been still taking a wage knowing that then some ethics can be questioned. It's not the same when you can't run, twist and turn without fear of ripping or tearing plus strength and balance loss was another factor to not being able play to the standard I expected of myself. Unfortunately we are not on a position to be able to risk re injuring because I simply couldn't risk another 6-16 weeks off work

[DeeCee]

I managed 25 years (pub team standard) without many probs other than dodgy knees, did my Achilles (playing cricket ffs) took a long while to get over albeit I was 40+

ACL different deal altogether for professional sportsmen.

[ewoody]

I had two PCL reconstructions in the 90's, an ACL injury is more common.
Still have pain and laxity with the knee, reliant on painkillers for the last 25 years.

 

Edited September 4, 2018 by ewoody
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[ewoody]

Dominic Samuel .. ACL reconstruction.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 6, 2018 by ewoody

[Give 'Em the Axe]

I can't help but feel sorry for the chap. Argue the toss about whether he was good enough or not, but that's a really rotten injury for him.

As far as I know it's the last year of his contract? Open to correction on that, but it means his recovery is really a 'make or break' situation.

Good luck to him.

Edited September 5, 2018 by Give 'Em the Axe

[roversfan99]

Think he signed a 3 year deal.

[tomphil]

I had the ACL reconstruction via patella tendon graft like the Gazza operation, served me well since but it was hell for years and although the knee can be stronger it's never quite the same. Took 4 ops to sort me out although a lot of that was down to the national health service overload etc, oh your only young just build the quads up and it'll be fine ..er no !!!

Didn't kick a ball for four years but got back playing e eventually but I wasn't a pro footballer so not quite the same.  I think things will be done differently now sports science and rehab moves at a hell of a rate so good luck to him. Probably have to alter his game a bit though and may e become the target man he probably should be.

Edited September 5, 2018 by tomphil

[Vinjay]

On 31/08/2018 at 13:20, roversfan99 said:

Never going to be good enough for us in the Championship, was a bit of his depth really in League 1, with a pitiful goal return.

That being said, the circumstances with such a serious injury is never nice to see. Hopefully he goes on to make a full recovery and when hes back fit he joins a club lower in the pyramid to try and make a career for himself.

Could argue it's the ideal time to release him though it's a somewhat mean spirited thought. Guess there would be some kind of payoff anyway.

[Ruaney]

I think although maybe he can’t cut it for us, we shouldn’t just get rid of him whilst he’s recovering. Have to think we’re a better club than that and I also don’t think Mowbray would do that.

Shame for him though, he seemed to work incredibly hard over the summer. Can’t fault him for wanting to get better for the step up in division.

[Vinjay]

17 minutes ago, Ruaney said:

I think although maybe he can’t cut it for us, we shouldn’t just get rid of him whilst he’s recovering. Have to think we’re a better club than that and I also don’t think Mowbray would do that.

Shame for him though, he seemed to work incredibly hard over the summer. Can’t fault him for wanting to get better for the step up in division.

Insurance thing as well perhaps. What if he tries to return, gets injured again and sues the club with some false malpractice claim? Paranoia? Maybe? Without cause given the last few years? Absolutely not. 

Or what if Samuel injures one of the first teamers in training? Not saying deliberately but there's no point keeping anybody around if their future is inevitably away from the club. Look at how the BBC for instance with older actors in some cases they can only spend so many days on set for insurance purposes. Different of course but the club's inner circle should be a closed door to anyone but those who need to be there. Then again what fans feel on here isn't essentially what the managers feels though we can obviously disagree. Providing he recovers (not an inevitability with this sort of injury however hard you work) 

Saw someone mentioning Michael Owen on previous page. Isn't it one of the worst kept secrets in football that Owen is a complete jackass? Still the biggest way he's stolen a living is as a commentator.

Edited September 5, 2018 by Vinjay17

[Give 'Em the Axe]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Think he signed a 3 year deal.

Yep, man. You're dead right. I looked it up and he's under contract until the end of June, 2020. Cheers!

[Bigdoggsteel]

23 hours ago, Vinjay17 said:

Could argue it's the ideal time to release him though it's a somewhat mean spirited thought. Guess there would be some kind of payoff anyway.

No, I don't think anyone sane and reasonable would argue that. 

Edited September 6, 2018 by Bigdoggsteel

[1864roverite]

On 01/09/2018 at 09:14, den9112 said:

Correct ....

Did mine in 1983 i had a some help mainly from two  ex Rovers players who owned a Gym at the time were i could try to get fit again i did play a few times after but soon had to pack it in...

I am now 56 and i walk with a limp my knee is constantly swelled up lots of aches and pains and i also have arthritis. Too young for a knee replacement so they say and to be honest i am going as long as i can before i have to have it done ..and i have had more knee scrapes and arthroscopies than i care to remember ...

I know how you feel. Op number 9 coming up on my knee in 3 weeks!

 

[den9112]

1 hour ago, 1864roverite said:

I know how you feel. Op number 9 coming up on my knee in 3 weeks!

 

I am in constant pain and it  does vary from day to day.

I am now 56 i am trying my best to hold on for a knee replacement as i am still pretty active..

I have tried every potion going but nothing works ,i suppose it's down to me what to do but at the moment but i have put up with it for so many years i am pretty used to it ..

One thing i do remember is my specialist saying that when i reach 50(i was around 21 at the time ) i may not be able to walk on it so an extra 6 years aint to bad

[tomphil]

Leg straight, toes back, straight leg raises lads, 100's of em.... ?

[old darwen blue]

Tom, give us a better description of that and I’ll try it for me knees please?

[oldjamfan1]

I did my ACL at the age of 16 and was never the same player again. I'm now mid 50s and my knee has started really playing up again. I went to the docs and told him my knee was really sore. He said "Its just age Andy" to which I replied "What a load of old bollocks doc, the other knee is the same age and there's bugger-all wrong with that one!"

[Vinjay]

16 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

I did my ACL at the age of 16 and was never the same player again. I'm now mid 50s and my knee has started really playing up again. I went to the docs and told him my knee was really sore. He said "Its just age Andy" to which I replied "What a load of old bollocks doc, the other knee is the same age and there's bugger-all wrong with that one!"

Did you report this guy to the NHS for blatant malpractice? Things like knee injuries have a varied success rate. I'm no doctor (and neither have I sustained any knee injuries) but would prefer to see a specialist in this area rather than a GP. Certainly not one with that kind of lazy misdiagnosis attitude.

Edited September 6, 2018 by Vinjay17

[oldjamfan1]

39 minutes ago, Vinjay17 said:

Did you report this guy to the NHS for blatant malpractice? Things like knee injuries have a varied success rate. I'm no doctor (and neither have I sustained any knee injuries) but would prefer to see a specialist in this area rather than a GP. Certainly not one with that kind of lazy misdiagnosis attitude.

He diagnoses sense of humour bypasses as well apparently Vinjay ha ha!

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, old darwen blue said:

Tom, give us a better description of that and I’ll try it for me knees please?

Probably better googling it for a proper description pal i'm no physio lol but that's what they always used to get you doing after any op's or injuries so you strengthen the quad muscles without bending the knee and putting any sheering force or strain on it.

I still do them now when mines playing up which isn't too often luckily and it does work if you do regularly and do enough of them.

[old darwen blue]

Cheers pal I'm assuming you do them laid down on your back?

[tomphil]

59 minutes ago, old darwen blue said:

Cheers pal I'm assuming you do them laid down on your back?

No mate arse on floor back against the wall with a rolled up towel or something behind your lower back. Good leg foot flat on floor pulled back knee towards chest so its bent but comfortable then bad knee leg flat straight out on floor, pull toes back, tense leg muscles then raise with leg rigid, as many as you can.

The flat back and towel stops lower back strain, you'd get that if you do it lying down pretty quick I think.

Edited September 6, 2018 by tomphil

[philipl]

Anyone know how Samuel is doing?