Dreams of 1995 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 56 minutes ago, JHRover said: If he gets the 5 he's suggested along with the 3 already in then that's 8 for the summer. I remember being shot down for suggesting we needed at least 7 new signings to go with what we already had. Said the same at the beginning of this transfer window JH. 7/8 is the minimum really to become a truly competitive Championship team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dreams of 1995 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Mowbrays says he wants 4-5 new signings and you say this is worrying news. I just found that a really bizzare comment I would have no problem with Graham as 1st choice with a Championship experienced permanent signing and a young loan from the Premier league as competition. You say we have Conway and Bennett as our only wide men options, what about Palmer and Samuel? Because Samuel shown in his handful of appearances out wide in League 1 that he wasn't comfortable there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CD_93 said: Depends how cut and dry you look at it. Are we more likely to spend 2.5 million on Peterborough's Maddison or 3 million on Newcastle's Armstrong? Just going off the fact how he's been talking about signing proven champ quality. We haven't bid for Armstrong yet and he isn't a priority due to his lack of experience at this level... TM's words. Edited August 2, 2018 by Neal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHRover Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I would have no problem with Graham as 1st choice with a Championship experienced permanent signing and a young loan from the Premier league as competition. The problem then however is that this time next year we will need at least 2 strikers of sufficient quality. Graham might well be moving on after this season or no longer be able to perform, the loan you want will go back to his parent club, and Samuel and Nuttall might be surplus to requirements. That's why we need an heir to Graham now, to come in and play this season. Bringing in a loan to play 2nd fiddle is just delaying things until next season when it will have to be addressed on a bigger scale. As far as I'm concerned we need at least one striker now to call our own who we build around and who shares responsibilities with Graham. Ship Nuttall out on loan and see how he goes on. Give Samuel a chance when possible and make a decision on him and then next summer we make decisions on Graham and Samuel whilst still having someone else to fall back on. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffRover Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, JHRover said: The problem then however is that this time next year we will need at least 2 strikers of sufficient quality. Graham might well be moving on after this season or no longer be able to perform, the loan you want will go back to his parent club, and Samuel and Nuttall might be surplus to requirements. That's why we need an heir to Graham now, to come in and play this season. Bringing in a loan to play 2nd fiddle is just delaying things until next season when it will have to be addressed on a bigger scale. As far as I'm concerned we need at least one striker now to call our own who we build around and who shares responsibilities with Graham. Ship Nuttall out on loan and see how he goes on. Give Samuel a chance when possible and make a decision on him and then next summer we make decisions on Graham and Samuel whilst still having someone else to fall back on. Completely agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucimo Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 59 minutes ago, JeffRover said: I suppose the 5 (if we get them) would consist of: 1 goalkeeper, 1 centre-half, 1 winger, 2 forwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: I'm on the same planet as you thank you very much "pal". Lol. Cover might be what we need for players like Raya, Lenihan and Dack. Up front and out wide we need players who will come straight into and improve the first eleven. Nowhere did I we need cover did I? We want a squad where everyone need to earn their places. You perform you keep your place 7 days left of the transfer window of this crazy window with crazy prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucimo Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, JayDee said: 1 hour ago, JeffRover said: I suppose the 5 (if we get them) would consist of: 1 goalkeeper, 1 centre-half, 1 winger, 2 forwards? Would be my guess also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucimo Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 If you could choose either Armstrong or Maddison who would you pick. I'm pretty sure we couldn't afford both and I'm a little torn. Think I'd try get Maddison on a permanent and try loan a striker in the mould of Graham. Not a clue who that would be mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallydally Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I'd go for Maddison and Nugent from Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, dallydally said: I'd go for Maddison and Nugent from Derby Nugent at 34 years old? Why? Ive heard people mention Crouch and I'm against that aswell. If we sign Clough Permanent I would be pleased. He is available. Supposedly hes in talks with Rovers but not 100% sure info is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallydally Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Nugent is proven at Championship level. Who does Clough play for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitty Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Does the transfer window really close next Thursday? it closes end of August. Think you will find in the leagues outside the Prem now will be deals on loans but signing permanent at Christmas written in the deals, it is a way round it. It will be agreed on fee before the loan so basically a signing. That is the way I believe TM will do his transfers, would not be surprised if we only signed one next week and the rest late august. TM will get better fees this way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: 7 days left of the transfer window of this crazy window with crazy prices. So if we didn't sign anyone else on principle and went down that'd be ok would it? The market is what it is. I can't see prices doing anything other than increase further in the short to medium term. I we weren't prepared for that it's our look out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butty Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Nugent at 34 years old? Why? Ive heard people mention Crouch and I'm against that aswell. If we sign Clough Permanent I would be pleased. He is available. Supposedly hes in talks with Rovers but not 100% sure info is correct. Where's that info from Chadster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 43 minutes ago, imy9 said: Well we have about a week to see what happens next. I think we can all agree that if we start the season with this squad then we are weaker than last year? We need some permanent signings this coming week, ideally 3 forward minded players. Based on what Mowbray has said, he wants 4 players by next week with perhaps a 5th before loan market ends. I don't agree with the bold statement. Last season the players we had were mostly unproven, the fact the they turned out OK was to our advantage. This season most of those same players have proven their worth and have a good team spirit and work ethic. I therefore think we have a very similar but much stronger squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miker Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Man.... are you ever grasping at straws now trying to defend this transfer window. I said I wanted two quality strikers to come in leaving Graham as a decent third oprion plus at least one wide man who could go straight into the first eleven as well. How is that wanting "competition for places?" I think deep down you know as well as well as I do we're headed for serious trouble if we go into the season with 33 year old Graham plus Samuel and Nuttall as our striking options plus Conway and Bennett as the wide men. Still seven days plus change left until the permanent deadline so let's hope we can do something about it. I feel like you are ignoring the fact that we’ve already signed Palmer and Rothwell who Mowbray will most likely play out wide. I agree we need 2 more quality signings up front and out wide to have a truly strong team that’s able to compete this season, but not at the expense of team spirit and Mowbray has got it right with his current approach to signings. Signing “two quality strikers” and immediately relegating Graham (one of our key men last season) to third choice before a ball has even been kicked this season would be a disaster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander200 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pitty said: Does the transfer window really close next Thursday? it closes end of August. Think you will find in the leagues outside the Prem now will be deals on loans but signing permanent at Christmas written in the deals, it is a way round it. It will be agreed on fee before the loan so basically a signing. That is the way I believe TM will do his transfers, would not be surprised if we only signed one next week and the rest late august. TM will get better fees this way. We can't be waiting for 31st of August to get our buisness done.We need the majority in next week.Season starts Saturday not 31st of August Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander200 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, dallydally said: Nugent is proven at Championship level. Who does Clough play for? Ex Bolton.Contracted to Forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pitty Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 minute ago, islander200 said: We can't be waiting for 31st of August to get our buisness done.We need the majority in next week.Season starts Saturday not 31st of August I know what you are saying but from quotes TM is making this is the way I believe he will do his business. He does not seem to be in a rush does he and seems quite relaxed about the situation. Might work out well for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, dallydally said: Nugent is proven at Championship level. Who does Clough play for? Nottingham Forest.. For me Nugent is too old and shouldnt be a target in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Nelsen Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 21 minutes ago, JayDee said: If you could choose either Armstrong or Maddison who would you pick. I'm pretty sure we couldn't afford both and I'm a little torn. Think I'd try get Maddison on a permanent and try loan a striker in the mould of Graham. Not a clue who that would be mind I'd be happy with either to be honest. Really liked what I saw of Armstrong last year & think Mowbray is far more likely to get a tune out of him than was the case at Bolton. That said, I'd probably just go for Maddison because he looks like he can handle himself physically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHRover Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I suppose if a request is sent to Venkys now for funds for transfers then the authorisation might come through in time for January. That might be a benefit of loaning now with a deal in place for the winter window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffRover Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) Would anyone be happy with Clough? How much would we have to pay? Edited August 2, 2018 by JeffRover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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