RevidgeBlue Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, Parsonblue said: The squad is good enough to stay up Rev, particularly with a loan or two before the end of the month and staying up is the only aim this season. Bottom line is nobody knows what the budget is, who we've been after or why deals have failed to be done. The players mentioned on this thread may not have been of interest to Mowbray so he's hardly missed out on then. Glad that Mowbray hasn't paid over the odds for players in a market that is inflated beyond belief. One or two loans gives those players the chance to prove their worth before we actually buy them. We'll have to see whrther it's good enough won't we Parson. Sorry, this "the market is inflated beyond belief" guff that has been coming out of the Club all close season is absolute rubbish. The market is what it is. Prices aren't just temporarily inflated this summer then going to return to a lower level thereafter, they're going to continue to rise at least in the short to medium term. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Backroom Mike E Posted August 9, 2018 Backroom Share Posted August 9, 2018 If we do the same business (Maddison, Brereton etc) via loans with a view, it'll somewhat temper my current annoyance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) The bit I’m struggling with is that, with a massive war chest, the likes not seen since Kean splashed the cash in the likes of Murphy and Slew, that we have waited for the loan market to complete our business. Presumably we are going do do deals in the loan window to ‘try before we buy’. Can’t help but feel that some fans have been misled about how much money we had to spend. Edited August 9, 2018 by Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, sparky12 said: Already happened. Andy Bayes tweeted that was it for permanent signings. What permanent deals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted August 9, 2018 Backroom Share Posted August 9, 2018 The market has been inflated for years now - can't use that as an excuse or we'll be signing League 1 and below players forever. Will be interested to see what Mowbray says. Let's see how the loan window pans out. If we still have nobody decent by September 1 then we'll know exactly where we stand with both the manager and the owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacknOry Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Will be interesting to see if this 5 million+ that we apparently have will be used in January or on top of next seasons budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, Pedro said: If we ignore the ones we've signed ? Like who? A youngster that gets flogged around more than a carthorse and a newcastle player that couldnt even make it in their strikeforce? Ooh marvelous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Somerset Rover Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Looks like this thread will be beating Brian Lara’s 501 N.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander200 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 1 minute ago, JacknOry said: Will be interesting to see if this 5 million+ that we apparently have will be used in January or on top of next seasons budget. If we go indeed have that sort of money then I don't see why the club can't do a loan deal with an obligation or at least with a view on our favour to make the move permanent on jan 1st and announce the signing that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just now, Tugayisgod said: Prick Nice...a banning for you i hope. I got banned for less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRochina Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Kinda nice to see people on Facebook not falling for the 5 mil bid classing it as a publicity stunt , we are not stupid , had all summer and you leave it til the last 30 minutes give over , still can't see how this would add to season ticket sales Mr waggon wheel .. We are much weaker, injury or two and we have a relegation squad .. These loans best be phenomenal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torgeir Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Where's the guy who took the day off work in anticipation? I'm not sure whether deals were tougher to make this window, or whether we really didn't want to spend anymore money but camouflaged it by having a few bids rejected late on. The way Tony Mowbray has been speaking about transfers must have left him just as underwhelmed as most of the fans. Will be interesting to hear what he has to say about the window as a whole. I wish they would just get rid of the transfer windows altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bepeja43 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Venkys didn't even want to pay the money for Armstrong.. I firmly believe that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboy3333 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just now, JacknOry said: Will be interesting to see if this 5 million+ that we apparently have will be used in January or on top of next seasons budget. We've still got the remainder of last years budget that Mogga said he didn't spend all of. We've finally got that £50m warchest that Nixon promised. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 We didn't make 500 pages quickly enough. Ah well roll on Saturday at least the match will be based on reality and not sooth-saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Somerset Rover Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I’d wager the ‘loan with a view’ for Maddison is us. Got Venkys written all over it, especially the part about being tired of dealing with X club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacknOry Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just now, islander200 said: If we go indeed have that sort of money then I don't see why the club can't do a loan deal with an obligation or at least with a view on our favour to make the move permanent on jan 1st and announce the signing that way I just do not see the value in that for the selling club though. I might be wrong but why would they loan with an obligation to sell at a fixed price when that player could then have a storming six months and be valued much higher? Unless its a player the club really does not want to keep and wants to bank on that money in 6 months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 We’ve kept all of our better players and they’ve signed new contracts. Made a couple of decent additions. Still have the loan window available. Thought we looked decent enough against Ipswich on saturday too, even if we do need some more strength in depth. So a couple of loans important. Personally struggling to panic about this transfer window after some of the ones of the last few years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bepeja43 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 On the plus side, Burnley fans are annoyed at not adding to their team today either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim mk2 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Fulham paid £6m for the Bristol City left back Joe Bryan - is he that good ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsonblue Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: We'll have to see whrther it's good enough won't we Parson. Sorry, this "the market is inflated beyond belief" guff that has been coming out of the Club all close season is absolute rubbish. The market is what it is. Prices aren't just temporarily inflated this summer then going to return to a lower level thereafter, they're going to continue to rise at least in the short to medium term. Personally, I'm happy we are not adding to the debt and risking another transfer ban by spending beyond our means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Stuart said: The bit I’m struggling with is that, with a massive war chest, the likes not seen since Kean splashed the cash in the likes of Murphy and Slew, that we have waited for the loan market to complete our business. Presumably we are going do do deals in the loan window to ‘try before we buy’. Can’t help but feel that some fans have been misled about how much money we had to spend. I'm not sure how "try before you buy" deals work, are you automatically obliged to purchase at the end of the loan period or do either party have the option to pull out? These sort of arrangements haven't worked too well for us in the past. D.J. Campbell and Barney both came in on loan and were garbage yet we still mysteriously signed them and surprise surprise they were both garbage after signing permanently as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander200 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, JacknOry said: I just do not see the value in that for the selling club though. I might be wrong but why would they loan with an obligation to sell at a fixed price when that player could then have a storming six months and be valued much higher? Unless its a player the club really does not want to keep and wants to bank on that money in 6 months time. Yes I said that earlier but what I meant was say brereton for instance If that just didn't get done in time?Or Maddison who has a fixed fee in his deal and wants to leave Sharpe saying Forest wanted in excess of 5 mill for Brereton anyway and wasn't happening Edited August 9, 2018 by islander200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry_ Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, AdamRochina said: Kinda nice to see people on Facebook not falling for the 5 mil bid classing it as a publicity stunt , we are not stupid , had all summer and you leave it til the last 30 minutes give over , still can't see how this would add to season ticket sales Mr waggon wheel .. We are much weaker, injury or two and we have a relegation squad .. These loans best be phenomenal last season we got Armstrong and that proved to a good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: Irony is now when we try to agree all these 'agree to buy loan deals' that everyone is raving about, they all know we have money - so the prices will go up!! Genius. This is something I pointed out to Sharpe last night, there you had a journo telling everyone that Rovers COULD pay the asking prices. Then he dropped in that TM wouldn't pay more than he thought right. Daft blurting it about like that which made me question how serious it all was. We are owned by billionaires who COULD do a lot of things but never have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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