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Just now, S8 & Blue said:

Seems like everyone has had a happy international break! Why is the mood on here so pessimistic?

8-10m?? No chance. He's absolutely lighting up the league!

Realistic

I don't expect promotion or even the PO's, with or without AA.

I do think AA is worth closer to £20m than £10m. 

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2 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

Seems like everyone has had a happy international break! Why is the mood on here so pessimistic?

8-10m?? No chance. He's absolutely lighting up the league!

He won’t get sold in January and will have 12 months left on a deal . He is nowhere near as good as Watkins and £30 million is fantasy

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6 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Not remotely similar in terms of style of play and without AA's pace up front the opposition would be able to defend a lot higher up the pitch.

I never said they where similar players. The question was who would take AA's place if he left. My opinion is that it would be Dack. My first choice forward line would be, BB, Dack, Elliot .I seem to remember Dack being a fairly successful forward

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Just now, rigger said:

I never said they where similar players. The question was who would take AA's place if he left. My opinion is that it would be Dack. My first choice forward line would be, BB, Dack, Elliot.

He's played there a few times (or false 9) and always looked lost. 

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Just now, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

He's played there a few times (or false 9) and always looked lost. 

I am not saying it is the outcome that I would prefer. But it is what I think will happen.

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Just now, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Fair enough. It doesn't say much for Gally or BB!

For Gally there isn't much to say. At least BB is showing something.

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Just now, rigger said:

For Gally there isn't much to say. At least BB is showing something.

I haven't given up on Gally as a CF yet. As a winger he'd struggle to get a game in the East Lancs league.

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If we average two points per game in the 11 games from now to the final whistle v Birmingham on 2 January, I am pretty certain Adam Armstrong will still be our player in February.

 

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5 minutes ago, philipl said:

If we average two points per game in the 11 games from now to the final whistle v Birmingham on 2 January, I am pretty certain Adam Armstrong will still be our player in February.

 

What if we lose every game in January?

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4 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

What if we lose every game in January?

Only 3 League games in January so not fatal.

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1 hour ago, S8 & Blue said:

Seems like everyone has had a happy international break! Why is the mood on here so pessimistic?

8-10m?? No chance. He's absolutely lighting up the league!

Going off experience. We let Cairney, Duffy, Raya all leave for less than their worth when keeping them for another couple of years would have seen us land much much more.

We should be offering him a bumper deal to keep him here, protect our asset and ensure we are protected. Yet he's still on the same terms as when we came from League One and only 18 months left to go. Not a good position to be in really. These sort should always have at least a couple of years on their deals so the club is safe from poachers.

I agree that on current form and market value Armstrong is worth a lot more than £10 million. He's going at over a goal a game for a midtable side and has been doing for the last 6 months. He's 23 and English and has pace. Name your price territory if a Premier League club takes an interest (apart from Burnley who we don't sell to even if it costs us).

My pessimism comes from the fact that we've got the top scorer in the league in Armstrong, the highest scoring team in the league and the best or joint best goal difference and yet here we are in familiar mid-table territory rather than up there challenging. It tells me that we are wasting a glorious opportunity here due to poor management. These runs like Armstrong's don't last forever - he'll either lose form or end up moving on - and then we are back to square one. Now is the time to make the most of it.

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15 hours ago, JHRover said:

We let Cairney, Duffy, Raya all leave for less than their worth when keeping them for another couple of years would have seen us land much much more.

How much would you have wanted for Duffy and Raya? 

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2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

How much would you have wanted for Duffy and Raya? 

Maybe 2-3 mill extra for both transfers but I get your point. Cairney was worth double at least

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45 minutes ago, Oldgregg86 said:

Maybe 2-3 mill extra for both transfers but I get your point. Cairney was worth double at least

Agree on Cairney. 

Raya I think with another season could have doubled in price. Certainly wouldn't have depreciated. 

Also talking about an extra 2 or 3 million, even if solely that, makes a huge difference to Rovers finances, so it's not much of an only in our context. 

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1 hour ago, Oldgregg86 said:

Maybe 2-3 mill extra for both transfers but I get your point. Cairney was worth double at least

Cairney fee was crazy. 

Duffy I felt was fair to be honest. 

Raya I was pleased when we sold him as I felt he made far too mistakes and errors for me. 

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He was also ‘pleased’ when he signed a new contract the year before, as that was also a club decision, so I wouldn’t put much stock in that opinion.

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No one is denying raya was error prone at times but year upon year he got better and better . The potential was there to see. That’s what gets people frustrated. He has made a few but costly mistakes at Brentford but like here I’m sure he has won games with superb reflex saves. Sticking with him would of paid off on the pitch and financially and any decision to sell him for the fee he went for was a ludicrous sale IMO. When he was sold I assumed Tony couldn’t wait for him to develop and had a ready made keeper in mind for a promotion push. Maybe the kaminski deal was a year later than expected and on current evidence I would understand the sale if it was backed up with us sitting pretty up the league , however all likelihood is we have sold an asset to a rival for peanuts why we continue to dodder around mid table.

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